Bohs accounts

**Dodge** · 29/03/2009, 7:17 PM

Originally Posted by D24Hoop

Meaning they spent an incredible �864,018 on other wages. The average wage for non playing (parttime barmen, parttime admin, parttime groundstaff and backroom) staff at Bohs is over 45k a year.

Something is very, very wrong with this picture.

Well there's two ways of looking at it

In their P&L a/c they say

Wages & salaries � Players (1,951,970)
Wages & salaries � Other 3 (711,090)

Total - (2,663,060)

However in their cash flow statement they say

Cash payments to and on behalf of employees (2,607,149)

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Evn without that anamoly its a huge figure for non playing staff. I'd guess that some players are paid as coaches.

The Danninger money is also listed as �1m and �1.1m at different stages

**Hairy Bowsie** · 29/03/2009, 7:21 PM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

I agree with you. But it'd be awful for Irish football if they go. Something needs to be done.

Well the hell does the notion come from that the league needs any club? You always hear that the league needs a strong Cork/Bohs/Rovers etc. It doesn in it's ******. The league would still continue on (poxy as ever) without any club. It doesn't need anyone.

Now, i also agree R�iteoir, that is how things are done so get aquainted with the examiner now and get ready to buy him a few drinks too. Although you'll have to admit Shels are the exception in that regard, we had no debt wiped.

Next thing is i'm ****ing myself laughing and i feel no shame for it, i'm laughing now while i can because when the **** does hit the fan Bohs will be bailed out like Cork and Drogs and then i'll be too ****ed off to laugh.

**p�l-dcfc** · 29/03/2009, 7:32 PM

Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

Well the hell does the notion come from that the league needs any club? You always hear that the league needs a strong Cork/Bohs/Rovers etc. It doesn in it's ******. The league would still continue on (poxy as ever) without any club. It doesn't need anyone.

Now, i also agree R�iteoir, that is how things are done so get aquainted with the examiner now and get ready to buy him a few drinks too. Although you'll have to admit Shels are the exception in that regard, we had no debt wiped.

Next thing is i'm ****ing myself laughing and i feel no shame for it, i'm laughing now while i can because when the **** does hit the fan Bohs will be bailed out like Cork and Drogs and then i'll be too ****ed off to laugh.

Accounts like this make the league a laughing stock. Like it or not, Bohs have one of the longest and most illustrious histories in Irish football. The league will survive if they go tits up, but it would be one club less with anyway decent attendances. Just like it was a shame that the Drums went out of league football, it'd be a shame if Bohs did.

It is there own fault that they're in this mess, but personally I think that there is a big failing on behalf of the FAI as well. Clubs should neverbe allowed to look this stupid.

Also, throughout the accounts there are loads of typos. Who the **** put this document together? I think there is one column that shows Bohs having an out going of �14,000,000 in 2007. It's a shambles. If I was a Bohs member and had that produced to me I'd go bananas.

**Dodge** · 29/03/2009, 7:36 PM

For the record these accounts do not make the league a laughing stock. Valencia are €500 million in debt ffs. No one thinks that league is rubbish

**p�l-dcfc** · 29/03/2009, 7:38 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

For the record these accounts do not make the league a laughing stock. Valencia are �500 million in debt ffs. No one thinks that league is rubbish

Yes they do. Wait until they are printed in tommorrows papers. You think the barstoolers will think "awk sure it's just like Valencia, Bohs are grand and the LoI is a great league"?

Will they ****.

**Dodge** · 29/03/2009, 7:44 PM

You think they'll they care about these figures?

Will they **** indeed!?

**p�l-dcfc** · 29/03/2009, 7:56 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

You think they'll they care about these figures?

Will they **** indeed!?

I've never said they will care about the figures. But it gives them another stick to beat the LoI with, and that is a fact.

**hoops1** · 29/03/2009, 8:17 PM

Why should anyone care what happens Bohs they are invincible dont you know.

**Dodge** · 29/03/2009, 8:24 PM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

I've never said they will care about the figures. But it gives them another stick to beat the LoI with, and that is a fact.

Which is when you mnetion chelseas losses.

On a general point I hate LOI fans using the 'barstoolers' as the baromator for everything. Thy don't care about the league, and never will.

Bohs problems are big within our league, who gives a toss what outsiders think?

**p�l-dcfc** · 29/03/2009, 8:25 PM

For the same reasons that people cared about Rovers. You've had a **** load of good will from fans of every club over the past 22 years, and in particular during the attempted GAA take over of Tallaght.

I hate Bohs as a football club. Really really hate them. But this collective masturbation session is really irritating.

**p�l-dcfc** · 29/03/2009, 8:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Bohs problems are big within our league, who gives a toss what outsiders think?

Me. Because I want to see the likes of Derry, Pats, Bohs, Rovers and Cork getting crowds closer to 10,000 than 1,000.

**hoops1** · 29/03/2009, 8:32 PM

They cant expect to pay the wages they are, go on winning trophies putting the clubs future in doubt while singing we are invincible and expect other clubs to have sympathy with them.
I always thought they had supporters who had the interests of the club at heart. It seems that getting one up on opposition supporters is enough to keep them happy. They are a members club dont forget and at the moment the dont seem to have the know how or desire to safe guard the future of their club. Im more dissapointed in them than gleeful at their current prediciment.

**Dalymountrower** · 29/03/2009, 8:34 PM

Diverting and all as this must be for some of the posters on here who will never get to see a set of audited accounts for their own clubs, apart from the faux shock/horror the reality is that Bohs is an asset rich club but one which has been negligently administered in the past four to five years (as if you all didn`t know). If it was to continue to be administered in the same manner we would be out of business by 2013. We will have a largely new Board in the next few months which should stop the haemorraging over the next two years.
Any company with assets conservatively at 25-30 million and cumulative debts at 5-8 million tops would be considered as very healthy in the current economic climate .
With improved skill mix and better governance at Board level we`ll come out of this stronger and still considerably richer than any other club in the league. And yes, we are invincible

**hoops1** · 29/03/2009, 8:35 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Diverting and all as this must be for some of the posters on here who will never get to see a set of audited accounts for their own clubs, apart from the faux shock/horror the reality is that Bohs is an asset rich club but one which has been negligently administered in the past four to five years (as if you all didn`t know). If it was to continue to be administered in the same manner we would be out of business by 2013. We will have a largely new Board in the next few months which should stop the haemorraging over the next two years.
Any company with assets conservatively at 25-30 million and cumulative debts at 5-8 million tops would be considered as very healthy in the current economic climate .
With improved skill mix and better governance at Board level we`ll come out of this stronger and still considerably richer than any other club in the league. And yes, we are invincible

Thanks for proving my point for me

**p�l-dcfc** · 29/03/2009, 8:38 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Diverting and all as this must be for some of the posters on here who will never get to see a set of audited accounts for their own clubs, apart from the faux shock/horror the reality is that Bohs is an asset rich club but one which has been negligently administered in the past four to five years (as if you all didn`t know). If it was to continue to be administered in the same manner we would be out of business by 2013. We will have a largely new Board in the next few months which should stop the haemorraging over the next two years.
Any company with assets conservatively at 25-30 million and cumulative debts at 5-8 million tops would be considered as very healthy in the current economic climate .
With improved skill mix and better governance at Board level we`ll come out of this stronger and still considerably richer than any other club in the league. And yes, we are invincible

Jesus Christ.

**Dodge** · 29/03/2009, 8:49 PM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

Me. Because I want to see the likes of Derry, Pats, Bohs, Rovers and Cork getting crowds closer to 10,000 than 1,000.

Do you think Bohs accounts are one of the top 10 reasons why Derry or Pats aren't getting 10,000 to a game?

**MariborKev** · 29/03/2009, 8:56 PM

Originally Posted by D24Hoop

Unbelievable. They just dont get it, even now.

Bohs are going bust, because this mindset is the prevalent one in the membership.

Ditto, that's what I thought.

Asset rich? Ha. One asset, the value of which has dropped sharply and for which the ownership has yet to be determind.

Your assumption is based on the completion of a deal, signed by a board you want to replace.

**Dodge** · 29/03/2009, 9:08 PM

Originally Posted by D24Hoop

Their asset, whose actual ownership is in question, which now has no access, is worth approximately ZERO in todays climate.

spot on. As with all assets, they're only worth what people are willing to pay.

I love the way they reacted to economic meltdown in the construction sector by knocking 10% of the value of their car park

**p�l-dcfc** · 29/03/2009, 9:20 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Do you think Bohs accounts are one of the top 10 reasons why Derry or Pats aren't getting 10,000 to a game?

Are you thick? Where have I said anything remotely like "Bohs' accounts are one of the top ten reasons why Derry aren't getting 10,000 at a game"?

The fact that the league seems to be embroiled in some sort of farce every week certaintly is a huge contributing factor to the ****e attendances we all experience.

Stop taking everything out of context and putting words in my mouth Dodge. You're looking foolish.

**stickyjoe** · 29/03/2009, 9:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Diverting and all as this must be for some of the posters on here who will never get to see a set of audited accounts for their own clubs, apart from the faux shock/horror the reality is that Bohs is an asset rich club but one which has been negligently administered in the past four to five years (as if you all didn`t know). If it was to continue to be administered in the same manner we would be out of business by 2013. We will have a largely new Board in the next few months which should stop the haemorraging over the next two years.
Any company with assets conservatively at 25-30 million and cumulative debts at 5-8 million tops would be considered as very healthy in the current economic climate .
With improved skill mix and better governance at Board level we`ll come out of this stronger and still considerably richer than any other club in the league. And yes, we are invincible

Sweet jesus, I hope thats sarcasm. I wouldn`t even know where to start in replying to that.