Week 4 updates

**Jicked** · 27/03/2009, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Flexy

Ah dry your eyes you had your bum chum HANCOCK yous played against 10 men and we still went onto try and win the game.

what? what do you mean dry my eyes? anyone at the game can tell you what I said was correct. Derry didn't try to win the game, they were holding out for a draw, and who can blame them. I'm pretty sure Stephen Kenny would admit that too. Somehow they scored from two efforts all night and fluked the win. Their first goal came from hilariously bad defending after rovers missed a clearcut chance to go two up.

**p�l-dcfc** · 27/03/2009, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Jicked

Derry didn't try to win the game

Hmmm....

New tactic there boys. Don't try and win. But somehow comeback from 1-0 down with 10 men to win 2-1.

**thischarmingman** · 27/03/2009, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Jicked

what? what do you mean dry my eyes? anyone at the game can tell you what I said was correct. Derry didn't try to win the game, they were holding out for a draw, and who can blame them. I'm pretty sure Stephen Kenny would admit that too. Somehow they scored from two efforts all night and fluked the win. Their first goal came from hilariously bad defending after rovers missed a clearcut chance to go two up.

Rubbish, we know that we have to win games like tonight's to have any chance of winning the league. We actually only started playing well after we went a goal down and after that it was obvious Rovers would leave gaps at the back in their haste to recover their lead. I certainly don't think we were playing for a draw at that point. Morrow was doing a terrific job playing players in. Yeah we weren't great but we scored twice and Rovers scored once. Would have been a different story if Rovers had taken their chances, including one just before we scored but they didn't and we did.

**Jicked** · 27/03/2009, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

Hmmm....

New tactic there boys. Don't try and win. But somehow comeback from 1-0 down with 10 men to win 2-1.

Are you serious? Yeah because a team has never played for a draw when down to ten men before? Derry were time wasting at 0-0, once a goal down they were given a goal by some comedic defending, and then Rovers naively pushed too many forward trying to recover a lead and got hit on the break with Derry's second goal of the game. I'm not having a go at Derry like, I've no problem with a team looking to hold the ball up and waste time when down to ten men for an entire game, but they were clearly blessed to get the win. You really cant argue otherwise.

**WexCar** · 27/03/2009, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by extratime.ie

Wexford responded, and went ahead as David Miller�s cross-come-shot crept in at the near post after Conr Sinnott�s quick free set him away. The away defence were enraged but the keeper had clearly stumbled back across the line with the ball. Jim Sheridans� choice verbal reaction to the Ref earned him a straight red card.

quote taken from extratime.ie, was a second yellow not a straight red.

**p�l-dcfc** · 28/03/2009, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Jicked

Are you serious? Yeah because a team has never played for a draw when down to ten men before? Derry were time wasting at 0-0, once a goal down they were given a goal by some comedic defending, and then Rovers naively pushed too many forward trying to recover a lead and got hit on the break with Derry's second goal of the game. I'm not having a go at Derry like, I've no problem with a team looking to hold the ball up and waste time when down to ten men for an entire game, but they were clearly blessed to get the win. You really cant argue otherwise.

Look. No offence to Rovers, but there is no way in hell that Stephen Kenny sent Derry out there tonight to play for a draw. Looking at the fixture list, the only match where I can see us doing that is Bohs away. We haven't been great this season, far from it in fact, but our last 2 results show that we go out to win games, and keep trying til the bitter end. Sure we may have been **** til Morrow came on, but the lads pushed and scored more than Rovers. If we had of been playing for the draw we would have shut up shop after the equaliser. From everything I've heard about the game, we kept pushing until we got the second.

**Jicked** · 28/03/2009, 9:41 AM

I'm not saying Kenny went out looking for a point, but after the sending off Derry ceased as an attacking entity. That's hardly a controversial statement. Having actually been at the game I think I've a better take on it then you do. Your second goal came from a ball downfield that should have been dealt with except Rovers didn't have enough men back and the ball was lashed in from thirty yards, it was hardly the result of sustained pressure.

**Sam_Heggy** · 28/03/2009, 10:36 AM

The standard of refereeing in this league is atrocious, last night the refs and linesmen hit a new low. It was the most pathetic "performance" by a group of officials that I have ever witnessed in Finn Park.

An awful penalty decision that even had the UCD players and supporters in shock.
A goal ruled out for offside even though Gethins was at least a yard onside.
The linesman (who was further away from play than the ref) giving a free for a tackle when the ref had already signalled Coll got the ball. The ref decided to give the free even though he had the better view and was closer to play.
3 clear handballs by UCD players (one of which was in the box) and no free.
2 clear handballs from Harps players and nothing either.
A horrible little cnut from UCD dived all night and seemed to get a free every time (number 11)

Overall pathetic, it was not all bad decisions against Harps either I just highlighted some of them. He gave some frees that left people in shock and missed some blatant bookings never mind frees.

For those who think im over-exaggerating, I'll post the highlights of the game when our camera man has them ready.

UCD impressed me with their workrate last night and should be top 2 this season.

**Schumi** · 28/03/2009, 10:57 AM

The ref was a disaster. The amount of dangerous, sliding, studs-up challanges (whether they got the ball or not) that he let go was unbelievable. I said at one stage someone was going to get hurt if he didn't clamp down on it and unfortunately, that's what happened. I hope the Harps guy is alright. I couldn't see the offside or penalty from where I was but there were several offsides at the other end that wrongly called and some terrible tackles that weren't punished.

**Dodge** · 28/03/2009, 11:04 AM

Ref at the Pats game last night was OK actually but he missed two clear penalties (one for either side). A couple of ridiculous bookings too but overall not too bad

**HarpoJoyce** · 28/03/2009, 11:12 AM

Conor Gethins 'Goal' was superb movement from him. Ball up to him and with the outfield defenders chasing back he took in past the UCD 'keeper Brennan. It looked like he took it to far and delayed his shot. But he struck from an acute angle and it beat the 'keeper again and a defender on the line.
Like Arsene Wenger I couldn't see from where I was if he was onside.
It was his 100th appearance for Finn Harps last night.

After Edit: Ref is down as Coombes.

**OneRedArmy** · 28/03/2009, 11:25 AM

Very impressed by the Rovers set-up in Tallaght. Most professional in the League by a mile. Other clubs marketing and commercial managers should be forced to tour the club shop to see how proper merchandise can make serious money.

As for the match, awful first half, Delaney deserved to go, he was a liability anyway. If Rovers were halfway decent they might have thumped us, but they look a poor side (outside of Baker).

Derry showed a lot of effort and a bit of class from Martyn and Morrow.

**Youths4Ever** · 28/03/2009, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by WexCar

quote taken from extratime.ie, was a second yellow not a straight red.

Yeah def two yellows and if I was his manager I would giving me some going over. Player gets booked for abusive language and as walks away says something else what did he think would happen a pat on the back

Longford looked very good at times. Best performance of the season so far from Wexford and saying that we slacked off a little end of first half start of second half still more to come hopefully. Playing two up front definitely a better option for us Marty Kelly may not be a natural forward but he plays for the team and ran his socks off last night as did richie fitz who could barely walk off the pitch when subbed

**Dodge** · 28/03/2009, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Other clubs marketing and commercial managers should be forced to tour the club shop to see how proper merchandise can make serious money.
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Or at the very least Umbro should treat all clubs as well as they treat Rovers

**Dodge** · 28/03/2009, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by Kildare Lad

Kildare played shockingly bad tonight.

First ever foot.ie example of someone understating something while using the words "shockingly bad"?

maybe even a world first?

**Martinho II** · 28/03/2009, 5:53 PM

at our match last night the ref gave a shocking decision for youths winner. in my opinion brendan murphy stopped the ball going over the line but the ref still gave it. my pal was behind the goal in the clubhouse when it happened and he thought it was a dodgy decision.

**Youths4Ever** · 28/03/2009, 6:06 PM

Originally Posted by Martinho II

at our match last night the ref gave a shocking decision for youths winner. in my opinion brendan murphy stopped the ball going over the line but the ref still gave it. my pal was behind the goal in the clubhouse when it happened and he thought it was a dodgy decision.

in fairness to ref he did not give it lino did to be honest not 100% sure whole of ball crossed the line. view from clubhouse would not have been great goalie would have been in way maybe our camera man picked it up and when highlights go up may become clearer.

**Lamper.sffc** · 28/03/2009, 6:25 PM

Originally Posted by Westernblue

Would like to congratulate Mervue on their first ever win in LOI and our neighbours Wexford Youths on their first of the season. Should bring a smile to Micks face at last!
Were Fingal brilliant in Kildare or were Kildare just awful?

A combination of the two. We could easily scored 11 or 12. Unfortunately for kildare it was men against boys.

**pineapple stu** · 29/03/2009, 5:29 AM

Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

The linesman (who was further away from play than the ref) giving a free for a tackle when the ref had already signalled Coll got the ball. The ref decided to give the free even though he had the better view and was closer to play.

Correct call by the linesman; the tackle could have broken Shorty's leg. Ref was an idiot to call play on (Harps lad did get the ball, but followed through with studs up) and only encouraged dangerous tackles on an awful pitch. No surprise there were injuries (we had two lads injured).