More of a shift to one team prehaps two. I still think most of the english premiership would easily beat the equivalent placed team in la ligaOriginally Posted by jebus
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I felt exactly the same way.rafa b .. did you feel the same way when ex utd player paul ince signed for liverpoolnot much dignity left in the modern game these days money talks even looks like tevez is eager & willing to join man city after 2 years at utd..
yeah but how many players play their whole career with one club, f@#k all thats how many, so those that do will obviously be able to show unquestionable loyalty to a club because they will never be faced with a test to that loyalty like for eg. Owen is now or as you say Scholes because he will prob never play for another club.
at the end of the day why should a player ( not necessarily Owen but any player) have so much loyalty to a club he only played with for like 3,4,5,6 whatever short number of years, knowing when he was playing with them that if at any time he was deemed surplus to requirements he would be cast aside without a seconds thought.
so if your saying a player should never play for a former clubs rivals then by extension you're also saying that a club should never go and sign a player that used to play for a rival club and that concept is just ridiculous as at the end of the day football is a business and clubs are there to try and be successful. If you apply ur logic to other areas of business then if you were an accountant with KPMG that would mean if PWC came and headhunted you offering you x2 salary you'd turn it down....I dont think you would
all in all i'm trying to say that people should give up the fairytale ideals of footballers having eyes for only one club and start realising its all about the money.
Yes sadly money is the main player nowadays. Tevez being another example though i do admire him for his "president of England comment"! Second person to speak out the true facts!!!!!!!yeah but how many players play their whole career with one club, f@#k all thats how many, so those that do will obviously be able to show unquestionable loyalty to a club because they will never be faced with a test to that loyalty like for eg. Owen is now or as you say Scholes because he will prob never play for another club.
at the end of the day why should a player ( not necessarily Owen but any player) have so much loyalty to a club he only played with for like 3,4,5,6 whatever short number of years, knowing when he was playing with them that if at any time he was deemed surplus to requirements he would be cast aside without a seconds thought.
so if your saying a player should never play for a former clubs rivals then by extension you're also saying that a club should never go and sign a player that used to play for a rival club and that concept is just ridiculous as at the end of the day football is a business and clubs are there to try and be successful. If you apply ur logic to other areas of business then if you were an accountant with KPMG that would mean if PWC came and headhunted you offering you x2 salary you'd turn it down....I dont think you would
all in all i'm trying to say that people should give up the fairytale ideals of footballers having eyes for only one club and start realising its all about the money.
I don't see how Tevez is an example of money being king nowadays. This is a foreign player with no ties to any English club coming in and moving on to his third English club in four years, he doesn't owe United anything and when you take into account the frequency of transfers between clubs that have a rivalry on the continent you can see why he doesn't think it's a big deal. If he were an Inter player moving to Juventus after two years at the San Siro for example no-one in Italy would bat an eyelid.
Owen you could argue should have more loyalty, that said he was never really taken in by the Kop in the same Robbie Fowler, for example, was, and at this stage of his career with everyone saying it was the knackers yard for him then he'd be a fool not to jump at a chance of winning a Premiership and Champions League medal. Isn't Owen an Everton supporter as well? He can talk to True Blue Rooney about them so
Tevez will join City because of the wage packet. End of story. Now if another club offers more than City he will move to them.I don't see how Tevez is an example of money being king nowadays. This is a foreign player with no ties to any English club coming in and moving on to his third English club in four years, he doesn't owe United anything and when you take into account the frequency of transfers between clubs that have a rivalry on the continent you can see why he doesn't think it's a big deal. If he were an Inter player moving to Juventus after two years at the San Siro for example no-one in Italy would bat an eyelid.
Owen you could argue should have more loyalty, that said he was never really taken in by the Kop in the same Robbie Fowler, for example, was, and at this stage of his career with everyone saying it was the knackers yard for him then he'd be a fool not to jump at a chance of winning a Premiership and Champions League medal. Isn't Owen an Everton supporter as well? He can talk to True Blue Rooney about them so
We'll have to agree to disagree than because I've always thought the 10th placed La Liga team would beat the 10th placed Premiership team and that all the Prem had was the strength of it's top 4.
Also it's not just one team, Barcelona and Real Madrid are probably the two teams no player would turn down at the moment
Just look at the UEFA cup to see how well the English teams outside the top 4 would do.
I'd go as far as to say that the middle/lower ranked German teams would be of a similar/higher standard than those in the PL.
Don't know about Owen but I have read an interview with Fowler where he said the only two clubs he cared about as a kid were Everton and Rangers.Owen you could argue should have more loyalty, that said he was never really taken in by the Kop in the same Robbie Fowler, for example, was, and at this stage of his career with everyone saying it was the knackers yard for him then he'd be a fool not to jump at a chance of winning a Premiership and Champions League medal. Isn't Owen an Everton supporter as well? He can talk to True Blue Rooney about them so
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
As a kid!
According to Wiki he is anyway...
Michael Owen Early Life
And Steven Gerrard. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/3...911762.jpg?v=0
"Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
"Ooooohhhh Nooooooo" Bobby Robson 91st minute.
No one would think it strange, but the Inter fans would hate him for it. And in Italy, that means rocks and petrol.
You can't spell failure without FAI
A hell of a lot of great reds blues growing up! Easy to see why they are the bitters
Ah yes, the wonders of photoshop
No, he is just about old enough to have his photo taken with a league trophy in merseyside.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
That was proven to be a false photo
Well we were all waiting for you to look up wikipedia before my post got slated.I can't believe this hasn't been absolutely slated. Maybe it's so mental that people didn't even know where to begin. Owen has pretty much a goal to every other game ratio so how can his entire career be revolved around one goal. Yes, it was a very high profile goal but you could hardly argue that he promised more than he delivered, scoring another 39 goals for England including a hat-trick in Germany. He won the FA Cup for Liverpool turning defeat into victory with 2 great goals. He scored 118 times for Liverpool in 216 games and even at Madrid, where he was considered a failure by most, he scored 18 times in 41 appearances (only 15 of which were starts)ref-Wiki!! Yes, I can see how you would compare his contribution to a defensive midfielder who just happened to score one famous goal.
First, I may have been a little harsh by summing up his entire career on one goal but you have to agree that his entire career has been based on the one thing he now lacks, speed.
Second, my grandmother could have scored against Germany that night, they were awful. Even Heskey scored that night, what's his goal to game ratio mr. wikipedia, I couldn't be ars*d looking it up.
Third, yes his goals won the F.A. cup final but lets admit it they shouldn't have because Arsenal should've had the game wrapped up at this stage. Not his problem I suppose.
Finally, I didn't say John Jensen never scored for Arsenal, I said it took him nearly 100 games before he did so.
Look, I'm a Man U fan and I wish him the best of luck while he's playing for them. I hope he scores 42 goals, wins the treble and gets FIFA player of the year in his first season. I will support him but I don't know what Fergie is thinking by this signing. He did nothing to help Newcastle stay up and I'm sure injuries will always be an excuse, it's an excuse not to sign him as well. I'm just glad he cost nothing.
Well they do say God works in mysterious ways.
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