We need to sort out the centre midfield, Andrews is ok but Whelan has been a bit poor. BUT Andy Reid is not the solution, I don't know what is but Reid is getting way to big of a name for being a two-bit player at Sunderland
Less than inspiring performance. What a wasted oppurtunity! We really could've put Bulgaria to bed. We're playing for 2nd now basically.
"If you don't work harder I'll pull you off at halftime,"
“Crikey, at Manchester City all we get is an orange and a cup of tea,"
We need to sort out the centre midfield, Andrews is ok but Whelan has been a bit poor. BUT Andy Reid is not the solution, I don't know what is but Reid is getting way to big of a name for being a two-bit player at Sunderland
What a poor performance center mid was severely lacking need andy reid in the team to add some creativity. Why not Carsely know not creative but better than Andrews and Whelan. McGeady in to central needs to stay out wide to take on full back. I have thought in past Stephen Ireland should stay away from team but we no matter what people opinions on him Ireland need him.
Trap is far to negative after start we had should have pushed on from there. Also need to learn to make subs earlier in the game Hunt looked out on his feet after about 75 mins. No point in making a sub on 90 mins if only just to waste time. Bench was not great today but players on there could make a difference. Ok I know not all our players are world class by any stretch but then are as bad as that performance either
And Miles To Go Before We Sleep
I was actually concerned when we scored that goal and said I would have preferred it to remain 0-0; I knew exactly how we would play and I wasn't dissapointed.
A very disgraceful performance.There was no sign of pride or passion for any of the players to play for their country.We badly need Stephan Ireland and Andy Reid at this moment in time.Bulgaria deserved a point,if not all 3.
I'm not too disappointed, I still think there is everything to play for. I thougt Doyle would put that header in the net, I think we will produce a shock or two away from home against Italy and Bulgaria.
I said it before and I will continue to say it, we are a brutal team. Luck has got us this far and not Traps excellent managerial skills. Why he continues with journey men like McShane, Kilbane, Whelan ,Hunt, Keogh and a few others is behond me? There were players in the U21 team last night that would have done themselves justice in that team. We have the players out there like St Ledger, McCann, Lawrence, Garvan, and Reid. Bulgaria played a second string team out there and should have won the game. We have no chance against Italy and Cyprus will hammer us again. What is it that NI are doing right that we cant do?
i dont know what you saw in that performance or the Georgian one at home that gives you cause for optimism?? Baffling really. We are terrible. Our table position belies the fact that we have had a pretty easy schedule so far.Originally Posted by tricky_colour
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
That performance was pathetic. A flukey early goal and then outplayed for 90 mins. Like most "fans" I readily admit tactics are not my strong point. Hence, when Trap (crap) leaves out Reid I've given him the benefit of the doubt. When that eegit Ireland does not come back and we are given Traps "he's not my son" and "ze door is open" etc I assume my gut instinct is wrong and il genius will pull it out of the bag.
Putting on Keogh with 6 seconds left. Fer gods sake......
Emporors new clothes come to mind. Nothing less than a resounding win on WEdnesday will convince me that this guy is not only here for one last pay day and as such.......
Mise le meas
Doyle should have put his header away, I expected him too, as McGeady should perhaps have took his chance too, not that I expected him to, their goal was a bit of a fluke. We are in a strong position for second place, I don't think Bulgaria will pick up the points they need to catch us, we will also be hard to beat, even for Italy. Currently we are the best placed second place team, the teams below us will take points of each other, there are more draws to come from Bulgaria. We could have done with a couple of subs coming on earlier though. Trap will sort it out, we will run riot over Italy
Last edited by tricky_colour; 28/03/2009 at 10:17 PM.
alright, whatever you reckon. I just wish the smiley you used had rose tinted glasses instead of shades...
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
t he colombia performance was a sign of things to come
Trap is polishing a turd.
We carry so many passengers it's unreal.
Maybe Reid would make a difference, but not sure it would really have changed things.
We lack any real quality, long and short of it.
on the bright side better teams than us were beaten tonight...belgium at home to bosnia for example
silver lining is, a win vs Italy would fix all. They can't possibly play worse....
for me its not the result that gets to me, just how bland and predictable are play was...the only time weve shown anything under trap was the first half in oslo
just back from the match there so quick review before off to bed (up at 4.30 in the morning to catch a flight to Milan)
as i'm sure has been mentioned before our centre midfield needs to be sorted out and fast. Glenn Whelan is earning a title of "the next Matt Holland" (i.e mr invisible), i kept my eye on him quite a bit and i must say i've never seen a central midfielder so scared of the ball and so lightweight in the tackle in my life...Andrews did well but he was basically playing the role of 2 players there...
Secondly, again not sure if mentioned already, Stephen Hunt's role in that shambolic goal...yer man that crossed the ball from the left had acres of space and where was Hunt (who was supposed to be playing on the right at this stage) but marking absolutely nobody in the semicircle at the edge of the box...absolutely shocking...
Other shockers - both full back were very poor, i'm amazed they can call themselves professional footballers with the control and skills (or lack thereof) that they have....we have a solution for rb (foley) but unfortunately no replacement for Kilbane (thanks for the memories and effort but time to say goodbye old friend)
lastly - Robbie Keane as captain? can you imagine him commanding the respect of a dressing room like an O'Driscoll or O'Connell after a performance like that? don't make me laugh...
Positives? Surprising there were a couple:
Doyle was, as ever, excellent...he was everywhere, held up the ball well and won his fair share of headers (which was vital given that we're a blatant route 1 team), shame he didn't get the goal he deserved with that header...
Andrews looked pretty decent again, how i would love to see him have a proper partner in the centre, we wouldn't be such a bad team then...
O'Shea and Dunne again looked like a decent partnership, shame they're surrounded by mediocrity...
phew that was a lot of effort, looks like i'll need to drown my sorrows tomorrow with a few Peroni's
"Well I think they'll be a little disappointed with that" - Matt Holland on TV3 after 5-2 drubbing by Cyprus
Whelan was completely anonymous. No joke to say that you would actually forget he was on the pitch at times. If you're not getting on the ball and making passes at least be winning tackles and regaining possession but he wasn't even doing that. At least Andrews managed the odd foray forward.just back from the match there so quick review before off to bed (up at 4.30 in the morning to catch a flight to Milan
as i'm sure has been mentioned before our centre midfield needs to be sorted out and fast. Glenn Whelan is earning a title of "the next Matt Holland" (i.e mr invisible), i kept my eye on him quite a bit and i must say i've never seen a central midfielder so scared of the ball and so lightweight in the tackle in my life...Andrews did well but he was basically playing the role of 2 players there...
Secondly, again not sure if mentioned already, Stephen Hunt's role in that shambolic goal...yer man that crossed the ball from the left had acres of space and where was Hunt (who was supposed to be playing on the right at this stage) but marking absolutely nobody in the semicircle at the edge of the box...absolutely shocking...
Other shockers - both full back were very poor, i'm amazed they can call themselves professional footballers with the control and skills (or lack thereof) that they have....we have a solution for rb (foley) but unfortunately no replacement for Kilbane (thanks for the memories and effort but time to say goodbye old friend)
lastly - Robbie Keane as captain? can you imagine him commanding the respect of a dressing room like an O'Driscoll or O'Connell after a performance like that? don't make me laugh...
Positives? Surprising there were a couple:
Doyle was, as ever, excellent...he was everywhere, held up the ball well and won his fair share of headers (which was vital given that we're a blatant route 1 team), shame he didn't get the goal he deserved with that header...
Andrews looked pretty decent again, how i would love to see him have a proper partner in the centre, we wouldn't be such a bad team then...
O'Shea and Dunne again looked like a decent partnership, shame they're surrounded by mediocrity...
phew that was a lot of effort, looks like i'll need to drown my sorrows tomorrow with a few Peroni's
Full backs are a big problem too. At one stage we seemed to have too many quality full-backs. Now we are struggling for one decent one.
We are definitely struggling at left back but he has options on the right with Foley, Kelly and Nolan but that excuse for a professional footballer McShane is the preferred option in Trapps view. I would also take Delaney over Kilbane any day of the week for the left back position.
If we don’t sort the left and right back and central midfield out very very soon we are in big trouble.
Back from the game and my taughts for what its worth:
Trap way to negative, looks poor in post match interview
Too bad teams playing there tonight. Bulgaria were so bad. Ireland marginally better and if any belief or leadership there would have had a second goal to kill of the game.
Negatives: Kilbane was rubbish. Has been pretty good for his second 50 caps for Irleand but tonight was at fault for about 4 mistakes before the goal. McShane was as nearly bad. 2 complete liabilities there tonight
Centre mid no creativity at all. We need A Reid, S Reid. (S Ireland will not come back so forget him). Strikers were isolated time and again
Il Trap is no world class coach. He is past it.
McGeady again did very little. He plays against the likes of Dundee Utd, Motherwell, Hamilton week in week out. Oh Yeah that's quality. He is completely over rated but on this forum he has delusional Celtic supporters backing him. Get real
Positives: John O Shea and Richard Dunne partnership, Kevin Doyle as in every game is excellent. Robbie Keane tried hard and cannot be faulted but is not a leader...
Ireland have now three wins and 2 draws from five games which is way better than under Stan and we hopefully will score in Bari but Italy should win.
They are playing with better confidence and at least trying to play football
Trap is not open to change and will not change.
Hopefully the next manager will make them better for the next campaign.
They need someone who makes them play with out fear and is not afraid to change personnel.
Homer did it ever occur to you to let go of the Candy?
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