So are you denying that Celtic have Irish roots and connections, which is just as bad the muppets like who think Celtic are Irish and that it is the patriotic duty of all Irishmen to support them.Originally posted by Macy
There's enough threads of people trying to justify "Celtic are Irish", don't think we need another one here....
But the simple fact is Celtic do have strong Irish connections as do Hibernian. The first soccer club ever founded by Irish people was not in Ireland but Scotland. Hibernian were launched in 1875 on the centenary of Daniel O'Connell's birth. James Connolly as young boy was present in the hall then.
It was clubs like Hibernian, Celtic and Manchester United that helped inspire the founding of many Irish football clubs. I wonder were Cork Hibs called after Edinburgh Hibs. Also the large numbers of the very English sounding Uniteds was surely inspired by the likes of Man Utd and Leeds Utd.
The simple fact Macy whether you like or not, soccer is a British sport which brought here as the garrison game or brought here by Irish people who lived in Britain. To deny otherwise is revisionism.
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A bunch of local lads formed a team and played a team from The British army based in Athlone Barracks.Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
I read somewhere that Brother Walfrid, the founder of Celtic was living in Athlone before he moved to Glasgow and may have been involved in the founding of the local football club. It mightn't be true though.
Athlone also claim to have the oldest pub in Ireland = Sean's Bar, mmmm! tell us another one.
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What I should I said that Athlone Town claim to be the oldest surviving club in the Republic of Ireland, formed in 1887 (the oldest Irish club is Cliftonville in the north). There are Marist Brothers in Athlone and there is evidence that Brother Walfrid lived in the town. I have an edition of the Celtic View from the mid 90's where some Marist Brothers are holding up a photograph of Brother Walfrid while he was living in Athlone.Originally posted by Estar
A bunch of local lads formed a team and played a team from The British army based in Athlone Barracks.
Athlone also claim to have the oldest pub in Ireland = Sean's Bar, mmmm! tell us another one.
Not only does Athone have the oldest pub in Ireland but also produced Ireland's (and the world's) first pop star, the opera singer John McCormack.
I'm convinced.
Now I trust you will also agree that Rangers are Irish and we should all abandon our national league teams and support them too. Many Irish teams are called after Rangers eg
Park Rangers (Shannon)
Fairview Rangers (Limerick)
Palmerstown Rangers (Dublin)
St Marks Rangers (Dublin)
Valley Rangers (Waterford)
Vale Rangers (Dublin)
Manor Rangers (Sligo/Leitrim presume Manorhamilton in Leitrim)
Gorey Rangers (wexford)
Fethard Rangers (Wexford)
Tramore Rangers (waterford)
and many many more.....
and of course Kevin Moran started out at Rangers FC a schoolboy club in Dublin
They could be called after Queen's Park Rangers.Originally posted by gspain
I'm convinced.
Now I trust you will also agree that Rangers are Irish and we should all abandon our national league teams and support them too. Many Irish teams are called after Rangers
Rangers got their name from a list of English rugby clubs so it wasn't original whereas Glasgow Celtic were certainly the first Celtic. I'd say most Celtics were called after them.
I never said that people should abondon supporting their national league teams. Unfortunately most of the Irish national team are based in Britain which means more support for British teams at the expense of Irish teams. And no one can deny most of top teams in Britain have strong Irish connections including Rangers.
Grace Neill's in Donaghadee, Co. Down also claims to be Ireland's oldest pub. Keats, Thackeray and even Emperor Peter the Great all stood their round there.
They're red, they're black
The hatchetmen are back.
We'll support you evermore
Though you never score...
Well Celtic just nicked their name from a long-dead culture so they shouldn't win many points for originality either!!!Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
They could be called after Queen's Park Rangers.
Rangers got their name from a list of English rugby clubs so it wasn't original whereas Glasgow Celtic were certainly the first Celtic. I'd say most Celtics were called after them.
Also, Dundee United (formerly Dundee Harps) have some kind of Irish links too though they've been heavily diluted over the years.
The ball is round and has many surprises.
Set up by the Irish, for the Irish. What more do you want?Originally posted by Macy
There's enough threads of people trying to justify "Celtic are Irish", don't think we need another one here....
Why the **** is this thread in eL General
Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
There are Marist Brothers in Athlone and there is evidence that Brother Walfrid lived in the town. I have an edition of the Celtic View from the mid 90's where some Marist Brothers are holding up a photograph of Brother Walfrid while he was living in Athlone.
What your saying is probably correct, as the Marist School is next door to St. Mels.
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thread moved to general football
Champions!
How did Boston Celtics get their name? I take it from the Irish in BostonThough their are lot's elsewhere
And whoever called Celtic a long dead culture-Celtic jewellry, dance and patrionism is as alive as ever. I take it you don't regard yourself as a Celt
The words Celtic and Hibernians BOTH imply Irishness. If you want to slam Celtic(s) go ahead-no one said Rangers wern't Irish (though I suppose the Union Jacks, Rule Brittania, Royal Blue home kit's and Orange Away kit's suggest to those of us with common sense that they're not)
Let's compromise and agree that Rangers aren't Irish...
They're red, they're black
The hatchetmen are back.
We'll support you evermore
Though you never score...
They've got loads of Northern Irish fans though and all the songs they sing originated in Ireland.Originally posted by Duncan Gardner
Let's compromise and agree that Rangers aren't Irish...
Rangers also have strong orange connections and the Orange Order was founded in Ireland, we've even got orange on our flag.
Actually the Celts were from central Europe originally, we've just hijacked the term so the T-shirt industry can throw it onto pictures of shamrocks and leprachauns!Originally posted by liam88
I take it you don't regard yourself as a Celt
The words Celtic and Hibernians BOTH imply Irishness.
Personally I quite like Celtic but am I a Celt? I come from Celtic stock I suppose but so does most of the population of Austria and Hungary if you're to be fair. I prefer to think of myself as being Irish to be honest.
The ball is round and has many surprises.
Do you guys still prefer Orange rather than Gold?Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
we've even got orange on our flag.
Well Green, White and Orange are the colours of the Irish flag whether we like or not. Article 7 of Bunreacht na hEireann states that the National Flag is the Tricolour of Green, White and Orange.Originally posted by liam88
Do you guys still prefer Orange rather than Gold?
The confusion between Orange and Gold is because the Irish flag used pre-1916 was the Green Flag with a Gold Harp and Silver (White) strings.
Celtic fans who are always going on about Orange b******s should remember that many of your most famous players were Orangemen, and some of them were even Rangers fans.
The great Bertie Peacock who played for Celtic and Northern Ireland in the 50's was an Orangeman from Coleraine.
I certainly prefer the Orange to Gold because it represents the hope for reconciliation between the two main traditions on the island. There is supposed to be peace process at the moment.
You hardly saying we should get rid of the Orange in the Tricolour. Maybe you want all the "prods" sent back home to Scotland and England, but the Brits could retaliate and send all the "plastic paddys" who support Celtic back home to us.
I never said anything about changing the Orange or sending anybody back home!
In fact I am a massive support of the peace process (though with the likes of Paisly about it's going to be tough).
I never even said that I preffered Gold to Orange or that I found orange unionist in any way.
I was just asking the question because some Irish I know talk of the Green White and Gold, whilst others (the Wolfe Tones included) talk about the Orange White and Green.
At the end of the day it may not even matter as long as you respect the flag
So if I'm a peace process supported why do I listen to the tones? Don't ask
The foot.ie Celtic directory....Originally posted by DruggyDrog
Set up by the Irish, for the Irish. What more do you want?
Belfast Celtic-No Longer playing
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Cork Celtic-No Longer in existance
Farsley Celtic-England
West Allotment Celtic-England
Lourdes Celtic -Dublin
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calry Celtic-Sligo
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innisfree Celtic-Sligo
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treacy Celtic-Sligo
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Boston Celtics-Basketball
Sod Celtic-U.S.A
Colmcille Celtic-Longford
Quay Celtic – Dundalk
Rock Celtic - Blackrock, Dundalk
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Togher Celtic - Cork
Ilen Celtic - Cork
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