Shame on CCFC...

[Colm]

You just can't put a price on the pride and the passion!!

[Éanna]

Nobody really knows how much the guys are on. The simple fact of the matter is, I don't think Brian Lennox is stupid. He's a business man as well as a football man, and he is not going to throw money down the drain. If we can afford to pay better wages than other clubs, its probably because we're getting much better crowds, and our merchandise sales (if the no. of jerseys you see around are anything to go by) are improving all the time. I said 3 or 4 years ago, that the only way for CCFC to make itself a force in Irish football was to put money forward to sign some very good players, because that would bring the punters in- speculate to accumulate and all that. Looks like we've finally got a chairman ready to make that leap of faith

[joe]

Originally posted by Xlex
fair enough joe, alot of what i said is conjecture, i'm sustaining my arguement based on something which may or may not occurred. But if the basis of my point were proven true it would be a dangerous and valid assumption...

I agree with your agrument alright Xlex, but I just don't think City are going to overextend themselves given the people in charge at the moment. Maybe other clubs alright

[Macy]

Originally posted by joe
I just don't think City are going to overextend themselves given the people in charge at the moment. Maybe other clubs alright

Just one point - most clubs have established business men on their boards or as chairman. What makes Lennox so different? Afterall, ultimately it's not his money, and he could walk away if things went pearshaped....

[pete]

Originally posted by Macy
Just one point - most clubs have established business men on their boards or as chairman. What makes Lennox so different? Afterall, ultimately it's not his money, and he could walk away if things went pearshaped....

I don't know that much about him but from my observations he a big improvement in the usual businessmen involved with CCFC. At the moment he seems to have the midas touch with his finger on the pulse of the supporters - even the small improvements in the way the club run or match days organised have been very good up to now.

[joe]

Originally posted by Macy
Just one point - most clubs have established business men on their boards or as chairman. What makes Lennox so different? Afterall, ultimately it's not his money, and he could walk away if things went pearshaped....

dunno really, but he is very much committed to the club and ensuring not only that it continues to exist but that it will deliver on the potential. and ultimately i think it is his money seeing as he has sole owenership afaik.

[Macy]

Originally posted by joe
dunno really, but he is very much committed to the club and ensuring not only that it continues to exist but that it will deliver on the potential. and ultimately i think it is his money seeing as he has sole owenership afaik.

Surely with limited liability though (if not he really isn't any kind of businessman)....

[joe]

obviously.

the thing is he decided to take over sole control of the club a year and a half ago having been involved in city for the last few years so he knew what he was getting into. also the fact that his family have been associated with soccer in cork for many a year

[tiktok]

Lennox has been around City for years, and it's enabled him to see the errors of those who came before him. He strikes me as someone who's got a real vision for the club and that filters down to all levels of the organisation. He's not making any wild promises, but is making steps in the right direction.

[DolansWaistcoat]

Lennox knows what he's doing lads.Great business brain.

[Dodge]

Originally posted by DolansWaistcoat
Lennox knows what he's doing lads.Great business brain.

As Macy said, most club chairman are. Look at Rover’s chairman and his company. Very, very successful high end company. Can’t run a football club though.

Lennox looks like he knows what he’s doing and fair play to him.

If Cork want to pay that money, fine. Let them. It doesn't force other clubs to do anything. If Pats/Bohs/Longford go to sign a player and he asks for 1,200 a week because someone else is, the club don't have to agree. If they all say no, he'll lower his demands.

On the bit about Fenn’s demands. All along I said that’s what he claimed. Of course he may have lied. However on the btid Waterford forum, they talked about similar figures about the same time. 10,000 signing on fee and 1,000 a week.

On internet hoaxers; never, ever believe anything you read on an internet forum. In my case the only hoax/lie was the Pats to tallaght thing and that wasn’t meant to be on the net… Everything else is either the truth or what I’ve heard. Despite what some think I don’t come on deliberately to wind people up. However I don't tust anyone else and nor should you...

[TommyT]

Dodge what is it Maguire's company does ?

[DolansWaistcoat]

X-files style conspericy(spelling) theories there by dodge

[Dodge]

Thought you'd know

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[TommyT]

Read some references to how successful he is from his apologists on srfcultras.com but they never spat it out and said it.

[Dodge]

Originally posted by TommyT
Read some references to how successful he is from his apologists on srfcultras.com but they never spat it out and said it.

Err, I thought it was common knowledge. I've edited it that post now...

[derm]

Shame on CCFC???

It wasn't City that started inflating players' wages. City have built up from a position of recent near-collapse to be in a position to challenge the wages offered by the "big" Dublin clubs. It did this thru youth development and sound business practice. It then turns out that the clubs that payed more than they can afford ( and consequently made it more expensive for all clubs) are in trouble - shame on them!

Lennox is a business man but also one with direct experience of City's near-death - I doubt that he will risk that again. CCFC has been rebuilding itself and is trying to regain the position it once had - title challenger. It is still a semi-pro club and may remain so. It seems that it is financially secure and so has every right to go for the players it wants.

[TommyT]

In fairness if the other clubs can't afford to match Cork's money they shouldn't try to. I f Cork can afford to sign better players they'll win the league. Simple.

For years they've missed out in spite of being at the buisness end of the table through paying out far less than the Dublin clubs, cos, with a few exceptions, they knew their players wouldn't leave.

[EireBadBoy]

If they have the money to spend then fine but I'm sure we all agree you can't buy success, well not long term success anyway.
It will be interesting to see how this works out for them next Season and if the blight of the Intertoto ruins it for them

[derm]

Originally posted by EireBadBoy
If they have the money to spend then fine but I'm sure we all agree you can't buy success, well not long term success anyway.

Depends on what u spend it on. City have been developing youth stuctures and links to schoolboy leagues for last couple of years - that's gotta be money well spent.

It also should be pointed out that CCFC has bought 2 players so far - one from Waterford on (rumoured) big money and one from the Kerry league. It has not been splahing out big cash to entice non-munster players down. That would be a sign of big spending...