Liverpool

**DeLorean** · 05/10/2009, 9:12 AM

Originally Posted by apo11o

Torres looked a little scared yesterday, I don t think he has the bottle to mix it with the big boys.

He's scored loads of goals against Chelsea since joining Liverpool. Why would he be scared of them, or any of the other big boys who he has also scored plenty against?

**DeLorean** · 05/10/2009, 9:26 AM

Originally Posted by Rafa B

Didn't think it was a 2-0 game myself but that's football. First goal always crucial in these games and proved so. Thought we got into plenty of good positions out wide but final ball was very poor along with our corners which in general are poor. Good weekend for Chelsea overall and possibly Man City if they win tonight. O and Drogba is a stain on the game.

He's comical. I blame the ref's as much as him at this stage. He was brilliant for the two goals. 2-0 was probably slightly flattering alright but think Chelsea shaded it alright. I'm not a bit convinced about Reira, he hasn't really kicked on after an impressive start to him Liverpool career.

**KK77** · 05/10/2009, 9:54 AM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

He's comical. I blame the ref's as much as him at this stage. He was brilliant for the two goals. 2-0 was probably slightly flattering alright but think Chelsea shaded it alright. I'm not a bit convinced about Reira, he hasn't really kicked on after an impressive start to him Liverpool career.

Brilliant for the goals. Funnily though he was down in agony seconds before the first goal but was alive seconds later. Your right though it's the refs and the fa/premier league who are to blame. Riera was disappointing yesterday had plenty of chances to take on the full back but kept cutting inside. Honestly feel Rafa prefers him in big games ahead of Yossi because he thinks he will help the full back more. Would have Yossi everyday over Riera. Decent squad player.

**shakermaker1982** · 05/10/2009, 11:50 AM

Torres was just getting frustrated because he was feeding on scraps. He does react like a big baby when things don't go his way though.

Dull game and Chelsea weren't anything special. 1 nil down & Benitez should have gone for it.

**KK77** · 05/10/2009, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

Torres was just getting frustrated because he was feeding on scraps. He does react like a big baby when things don't go his way though.

Dull game and Chelsea weren't anything special. 1 nil down & Benitez should have gone for it.

In fairness he did go for it. Brought on Yossi and Babbel. Poor final balls cost us. Was at the game myself and can't agree at all that he didn't got for it. Maybe it looked different from the couch. Torres can get frustrated but at least he doesn't dive around the pitch or stamp on fell pros calfs when he gets frustrated.

**stojkovic** · 05/10/2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

He's scored loads of goals against Chelsea since joining Liverpool. Why would he be scared of them, or any of the other big boys who he has also scored plenty against?

Torres has scored five goals in seven games against Chelsea.
Drogba has scored six goals in 21 games against Liverpool.

Yet the perception is that Drogba terrorises Liverpool.

**DeLorean** · 05/10/2009, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by stojkovic

Torres has scored five goals in seven games against Chelsea.
Drogba has scored six goals in 21 games against Liverpool.

Yet the perception is that Drogba terrorises Liverpool.

From watching most of those matches I do think that Drogba gives Liverpool an seriously hard time of it. He was the difference yesterday without scoring. Torres is just top class.

**Roo69** · 05/10/2009, 12:28 PM

Drogba is a pain in the hole the way he goes down so easily, rolling around as if he's been shot, BUT most players do this (Lucas got Essien booked by diving). It is not part and parcel of the game and until the men in charge decide to do something about it then it will continue.

No one really decided to win the game, a draw would have been a fair result IMO but Liverpool's finishing was dreadful and when Torres is off form Liverpool tend not to win, well that's the way i see it anyway.

Gerrard might as well not been on the pitch, can't remember him contributing anything to the game.

If Liverpool go trophyless again this season will Rafa get the chop ?

**KK77** · 05/10/2009, 1:00 PM

Originally Posted by Roo69

Gerrard might as well not been on the pitch, can't remember him contributing anything to the game.

If Liverpool go trophyless again this season will Rafa get the chop ?

Gerrard didn't have a great game but to say he may as well have not been on the pitch is plain crazy. He has pulled us out of the mire so many times in games that he hasn't played well in.

Here we go October 5th should Rafa go................

**Roo69** · 05/10/2009, 1:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rafa B

Here we go October 5th should Rafa go................

I'm lost with this...

I asked "If Liverpool go trophyless again this season will Rafa get the chop ?" they have lost more games now than they did all last season, i think it's a reasobable question.

**KK77** · 05/10/2009, 1:46 PM

Originally Posted by Roo69

I'm lost with this...

I asked "If Liverpool go trophyless again this season will Rafa get the chop ?" they have lost more games now than they did all last season, i think it's a reasobable question.

If being the word. That sort of question will be anwsered in May not October 5th based on having lost one game more than the previous season.

**DeLorean** · 05/10/2009, 2:03 PM

They were saying yesterday on Sky that the last team to lose 3 out of their first 8 games, and go on to win the title were Man Utd in 66/67. Only saying!!

**KK77** · 05/10/2009, 2:08 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

They were saying yesterday on Sky that the last team to lose 3 out of their first 8 games, and go on to win the title were Man Utd in 66/67. Only saying!!

Yeah i believe so. Sky love those sort of stats. Remember before the 1994 WC being told that Ireland hadn't beaten Italy in 7 games. The next day we beat them. Only saying!!!

**DeLorean** · 05/10/2009, 2:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rafa B

Yeah i believe so. Sky love those sort of stats. Remember before the 1994 WC being told that Ireland hadn't beaten Italy in 7 games. The next day we beat them. Only saying!!!

I'm sure there are plenty more examples too. Records are there to be broken and it has no influence on my belief that Liverpool will be found wanting in a big way this season.

**razor** · 05/10/2009, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

They were saying yesterday on Sky that the last team to lose 3 out of their first 8 games, and go on to win the title were Man Utd in 66/67. Only saying!!

I'd get on it then, surely worth a 50.

**KK77** · 05/10/2009, 2:27 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

I'm sure there are plenty more examples too. Records are there to be broken and it has no influence on my belief that Liverpool will be found wanting in a big way this season.

Only having a laugh! Your opinions your opinion.

**DeLorean** · 05/10/2009, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by Rafa B

Only having a laugh! Your opinions your opinion.

I know, and just for the record, I've been known to be wrong once or twice so don't be too despondent

**KK77** · 05/10/2009, 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

I know, and just for the record, I've been known to be wrong once or twice so don't be too despondent

I am always wrong hence i no longer make predictions!

reder · 05/10/2009, 4:44 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

They were saying yesterday on Sky that the last team to lose 3 out of their first 8 games, and go on to win the title were Man Utd in 66/67. Only saying!!

Records are there to be broken. We will all probably be wrong and City will spend �110m+ at Christmas and win it.

**old git** · 05/10/2009, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Rafa B

In fairness he did go for it. Brought on Yossi and Babbel. Poor final balls cost us. Was at the game myself and can't agree at all that he didn't got for it. Maybe it looked different from the couch. Torres can get frustrated but at least he doesn't dive around the pitch or stamp on fell pros calfs when he gets frustrated.

torres dosen't dive around pitch

not as much as drogba . but he has been know to fall over rather easy alot of times

who was the player stamping on fellow pro's calfs during this game ...??