Liverpool

**papa-j** · 21/08/2009, 12:26 AM

Shocking insight to the mess behind the Shankly gates

http://www.yanksout.com/

**KK77** · 21/08/2009, 8:14 AM

Was at the Stoke game and have to say much improved performance happy out i am. Johnson and Lucas best for me on the night.

**DeLorean** · 21/08/2009, 9:33 AM

Originally Posted by papa-j

I never suggested he should be classed a genius but you catch my drift how different the media perspective is on both clubs

I catch your drift alright but it makes no sense to me. Why would the media give United an easier ride than Liverpool? it's all the same to them, they'll jump on whatever's easy. It's obviously a lot harder to critisise Ferguson compared to Benitez with regards to results. I don't get this whole 'everybody's against us attitude', United and Liverpool are both huge, successful clubs that are treated the same as far as I can see.

**DeLorean** · 25/08/2009, 3:30 PM

Strange game last night. Villa defended well I suppose but Liverpool seemed devoid of their usual floodlit Anfield urgency, even after going behind. 6pts behind Chelsea is a lot after only 3 games and they really wouldn't want it to get much bigger. God only knows what Reina was thinking for the 2nd goal, if anybody should have known the shot took a deflection is should have been him. Of course the ref was going to allow Villa to take the corner when there was about 20 seconds left before he kicked the ball away in petulance. At least Rafa agreed it was a clear penalty after the match.

**rambler14** · 25/08/2009, 3:35 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

Strange game last night. Villa defended well I suppose but Liverpool seemed devoid of their usual floodlit Anfield urgency, even after going behind. 6pts behind Chelsea is a lot after only 3 games and they really wouldn't want it to get much bigger. God only knows what Reina was thinking for the 2nd goal, if anybody should have known the shot took a deflection is should have been him. Of course the ref was going to allow Villa to take the corner when there was about 20 seconds left before he kicked the ball away in petulance. At least Rafa agreed it was a clear penalty after the match.

Worst game i've ever seen Gerrard play. Anonymous for 90 mins other than making that stupid tackle on Reo-Coker.

**apo11o** · 25/08/2009, 4:24 PM

Result about right last night, well done Rafa Beneathus.

**KK77** · 26/08/2009, 8:17 AM

Originally Posted by rambler14

Worst game i've ever seen Gerrard play. Anonymous for 90 mins other than making that stupid tackle on Reo-Coker.

Yeah hasn't had the greatest of starts but can't be too hard on him considering how he's pulled so many games out of the fire over the seasons. Disappointing result alright very poor defending for all three goals. Villa defended well and always looked as if they could grab a third with Young having a great game. Huge game against Bolton on Saturday now.

**DeLorean** · 26/08/2009, 12:21 PM

Is this a bit of a foolish move given their lack of depth? I heard this guy looked pretty decent in pre-season as well.

Liverpool loan Nemeth to AEK Athens

reder · 04/09/2009, 1:06 PM

Rafa v Riera Part I. What odds on Riera going out the door at Xmas.

**KK77** · 14/09/2009, 10:19 AM

Was at the game on Saturday. Thought it was a decent enough performance a real of case of getting the job done.

**rambler14** · 16/09/2009, 8:37 PM

Watched 15 mins of the game tonight and in that time I saw Gerrard dive in the box TWICE and Riera dive in the box ONCE.
They really are the worst team for diving in Europe. Gerrard leading by example but gets away with it because he's English, by get away it I mean: No Yellow Card and no attention drawn to his diving by the media.

reder · 17/09/2009, 8:01 AM

Originally Posted by rambler14

Watched 15 mins of the game tonight and in that time I saw Gerrard dive in the box TWICE and Riera dive in the box ONCE.
They really are the worst team for diving in Europe. Gerrard leading by example but gets away with it because he's English, by get away it I mean: No Yellow Card and attention drawn to his diving by the media.

I think you are being very harsh there. He is the best player in the world at the moment and usually faces a barrage of heavy challenges from opposition players. He is treated very badly by officials, if anything.

**Roadend** · 17/09/2009, 8:20 AM

Originally Posted by rambler14

Watched 15 mins of the game tonight and in that time I saw Gerrard dive in the box TWICE and Riera dive in the box ONCE.
They really are the worst team for diving in Europe. Gerrard leading by example but gets away with it because he's English, by get away it I mean: No Yellow Card and attention drawn to his diving by the media.

Of course they are

**DeLorean** · 17/09/2009, 9:21 AM

Originally Posted by reder

I think you are being very harsh there. He is the best player in the world at the moment

I don't even think he's the best player at Liverpool, let alone the world. I still think he's an excellent player don't get me wrong but nowhere near the best in the world. I agree that R14 was being harsh, bordering on ridiculous to be honest. One of the "dives" should have been a penalty I thought as well although I don't think he's treated badly by officials in general, far from it.

**lionelhutz** · 17/09/2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by rambler14

Watched 15 mins of the game tonight and in that time I saw Gerrard dive in the box TWICE and Riera dive in the box ONCE.
They really are the worst team for diving in Europe. Gerrard leading by example but gets away with it because he's English, by get away it I mean: No Yellow Card and no attention drawn to his diving by the media.

You're not a Man Utd fan by any chance??

**rambler14** · 17/09/2009, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by lionelhutz

You're not a Man Utd fan by any chance??

Cardiff City.........why do you ask?

reder · 17/09/2009, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

I don't even think he's the best player at Liverpool.

Who is better?

**hula4** · 17/09/2009, 11:02 AM

torres

**DeLorean** · 17/09/2009, 11:29 AM

Yeah I'd consider Torres a far superior player to be honest. Basically if I was picking a World XI Torres would be on it every time, Gerrard I don't think would make my bench. Obviously I'd consider Gerrard 2nd best player at Liverpool by a long long way, especially now that Alonso is gone. I'd probably rate Lampard higher than Gerrard also but it's difficult to gage how each would do at opposite clubs. I think Lampard has a much better all round game but Gerrard is possibly more spectacular.

**hula4** · 17/09/2009, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

Yeah I'd consider Torres a far superior player to be honest. Basically if I was picking a World XI Torres would be on it every time, Gerrard I don't think would make my bench. Obviously I'd consider Gerrard 2nd best player at Liverpool by a long long way, especially now that Alonso is gone. I'd probably rate Lampard higher than Gerrard also but it's difficult to gage how each would do at opposite clubs. I think Lampard has a much better all round game but Gerrard is possibly more spectacular.

but steve gerrard, gerrard is big and he's f**king hard, he's better than frank lampard so your last statement cant be correct