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    Quote Originally Posted by reder View Post
    Lampard will sit in front of the back four and switch to the attacking point of the diamond when Joe Cole doesnt play. Ancelotti has always played with this system and I dont see him changing his ways now.



    Spurs were all over him and King had a very good game against. Anytime he tried to go on a run he was surrounded by 2 or 3 Spurs defenders and was subjected to a fair few tough (but fair) challenges. I thought he looked a bit laboured at times but wouldnt be too hard on him. Also, Gerrard isnt 100% fit.
    why risk gerrard then if not 100% fit

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982 View Post
    So where would Lampard play? He cannot play on the wings and he won't sit in front of the back 4 so if Ancelotti persists with the diamond formation Lampard will be behind the front two.

    Joe Cole will be stuck out on the right or left side when fit (20 games a season then) but I wouldn't classify him as a conventional winger.
    Essien at the base, Cole behind the front two and Lampard + whoever in the standard centre positions. There's no wingers with this system.

    Quote Originally Posted by old git View Post
    why risk gerrard then if not 100% fit
    Did you not see their bench?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge View Post
    Essien at the base, Cole behind the front two and Lampard + whoever in the standard centre positions. There's no wingers with this system.
    I'd be very surprised if he doesn't persist with Lampard behind the front two.

    The formation is also asking a lot of the full backs and if they cannot cross the half way line (as in the game against Hull) the team ends up too narrow and play gets congested. With Essien at the base it would allow Malouda and Cole to get into wider positions when the need arises. Thinking about it Joe Cole might not even make the starting 11. Where does Zhirkov fit in? Does he drop Cole or stick him on the left side of midfield?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge View Post
    Essien at the base, Cole behind the front two and Lampard + whoever in the standard centre positions. There's no wingers with this system.


    Did you not see their bench?
    oh sh*t i forgot about that ..: now it makes sense

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    At least it gives him another excuse -he loves excuses!!

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    Quality.

    Lack of quality isnt the only problem,lack of heart and desire is an even bigger problem i think.I lost count of the amount of tackles liverpool players pulled out of last Sunday.Man Utd,Chelsea players win tackles they have no right to win because they fly into them and WANT to get the ball.The likes of Soke,Bolton,Burnley etc are punching above their weight becasue they have players who care and who make up for lack of quality by giving 120%.If Liverpool players had as much desire they'd be defending the Premier League trophy this year and a few other years previous aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    At least it gives him another excuse -he loves excuses!!
    Rumours about now that he is going to leave as a result of broken promises by the owners. A win tonight against Stoke and it will all disappear again until the next bad performance/result. Its such a shame that the club has turned into such a soap opera.
    Last edited by reder; 19/08/2009 at 9:06 AM.

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    I'm hearing rumours that Rafa the gaffa has quit the pool! Apparently stormed out of the training ground this morning.
    LESS OF THE BULL NOW!

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    Panic over - he is at the ground!

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    Torres gets the early goal Gerrard was denied last season. I hope it doesn't finish 1-1, but if ever there was a team that are owed a 50-0 hammering..

    And Burnley 1-0 Utd. If in some parallel universe the scorelines finished that way, I'd be pleased.

    Of course they won't but still..
    Last edited by dfx-; 19/08/2009 at 7:21 PM.
    The Model Club

    Tell all the Bohs you know
    that we've gone and won two-in-a-row
    and it's not gonna be three
    and it's not gonna be four
    it's more likely to be 5-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambler14 View Post
    I'm hearing rumours that Rafa the gaffa has quit the pool! Apparently stormed out of the training ground this morning.
    Heard that from around Anfield as well, apparently the bookies have installed him as favourite to be 1st manager to go as well

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    Paddy Power has suspended betting on Rafa leaving

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0819/benitezr.html
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfx- View Post
    Torres gets the early goal Gerrard was denied last season. I hope it doesn't finish 1-1, but if ever there was a team that are owed a 50-0 hammering..

    And Burnley 1-0 Utd. If in some parallel universe the scorelines finished that way, I'd be pleased.

    Of course they won't but still..

    must be a happy man tonight ,, utd crash at burnley,, carrick missed a penalty as well for utd ... why was carrick even taking penalty
    fergie for the sack :

    " football is a simple game "

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    Good win for them tonight 4-0 v Stoke. Apparently they have signed some greek defender from AEK Athens too although the club havnt announced anything.
    Cmon County!

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    Rafa rumor started on Talksport which is renowned in Liverpool as a bull**** source.They have no links with the club. Paddy power have a close relationship with Talksport, hence the suspension on betting. They also suspended betting on Ribery going to Liverpool - they know nothing now that Rafa has control over all transfer communication.

    Question will Mr Ferguson now be vilified in the media following the loss to Burnley for selling his best player, signing an over the hill striker and generally loosing the plot. Will Rafa be hailed as a genius for turning around results in 3days. Answer is no, the media are full of sh1te.
    you are only a loser when you stop trying. Playing sport does not build character, it reveals it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kildare Lad View Post
    Good win for them tonight 4-0 v Stoke. Apparently they have signed some greek defender from AEK Athens too although the club havnt announced anything.
    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drill...90819-2245.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-j View Post
    Rafa rumor started on Talksport which is renowned in Liverpool as a bull**** source.They have no links with the club. Paddy power have a close relationship with Talksport, hence the suspension on betting. They also suspended betting on Ribery going to Liverpool - they know nothing now that Rafa has control over all transfer communication.

    Question will Mr Ferguson now be vilified in the media following the loss to Burnley for selling his best player, signing an over the hill striker and generally loosing the plot. Will Rafa be hailed as a genius for turning around results in 3days. Answer is no, the media are full of sh1te.
    Liverpool were playing Stoke at home. Why would you hail him as a genius for winning a home game against a mid table Premiership team?

    Fergie is always written off by the press. The so called 'experts' were saying he was finished when Mourinho won two league titles on the bounce. Now he is going for four in a row........

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-j View Post
    Question will Mr Ferguson now be vilified in the media following the loss to Burnley for selling his best player, signing an over the hill striker and generally loosing the plot. Will Rafa be hailed as a genius for turning around results in 3days. Answer is no, the media are full of sh1te.
    The media are full of sh!t, everybody knows that- however not for the reason you suggest. Being realistic Ferguson didn't have much choice but to sell Ronaldo. £80m for a player that was desperate to leave. Think United should have secured Tevez a long time ago though although I don't think anybody really knows the true story there. Burnley were excellent last night, don't think anybody will get an easy game there. Anderson playing wide left is criminal though. Basically they just played him there cos he's left footed but you wouldn't see Scholes or Carrick played on the right for that reason.

    As for Liverpool, I didn't see the match but 4-0 is not much more than they should be expecting in that fixture, so I'd be slow to enter Rafa into the genius category because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    As for Liverpool, I didn't see the match but 4-0 is not much more than they should be expecting in that fixture, so I'd be slow to enter Rafa into the genius category because of it.
    I never suggested he should be classed a genius but you catch my drift how different the media perspective is on both clubs - Ferguson can virtually get away with murder while at times there has been a witch hunt against Rafa. I understand Fergusons sucess buys him a certain amount of leeway but in fairness the media give him a very easy ride in comparison.
    you are only a loser when you stop trying. Playing sport does not build character, it reveals it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa-j View Post
    I never suggested he should be classed a genius but you catch my drift how different the media perspective is on both clubs - Ferguson can virtually get away with murder while at times there has been a witch hunt against Rafa. I understand Fergusons sucess buys him a certain amount of leeway but in fairness the media give him a very easy ride in comparison.
    in fairness ferguson has got his share of media critisism over the last few years ,.. but yes his success probally also helps him at times ..

    " football is a simple game "

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