Liverpool

**eamo1** · 22/04/2009, 10:06 AM

Agger didnt cover himself in glory last night.The guy is moaning about not getting a new contract and then he plays like he did last night.Great finishes from Arshavin but how much space had he???
I think thats the title gone now to Man Utd.

**Roadend** · 22/04/2009, 10:18 AM

Eh, Mascherno mistake, Arbeloa mistake, Aurelio mistake, break from a corner. How exactly was Agger at fault here?

**DeLorean** · 22/04/2009, 10:39 AM

Ya I didn't see much at fault with Agger's performance to be honest. It would be no different than blaming Skertel for Chelsea scoring 4 last week. Liverpool pretty much made 3 individual errors and were punished 4 times!!

What did ye think of Gerrard being in the Sky Sports studio last night? I might be overreacting but I can't help thinking it was a bit of a disgrace. Club captain more interested in making a few bucks instead of watching the match from the stands and being in the dressing room offering words of wisdom before the match and at half time, and even after the match seems a bit off to me.

**Roadend** · 22/04/2009, 12:42 PM

He was a disgrace, sitting there with his legs spread and a pair of skin tight shiny slacks on, hello camel toe.

**old git** · 22/04/2009, 3:51 PM

Originally Posted by BarelyLegal

Ya I didn't see much at fault with Agger's performance to be honest. It would be no different than blaming Skertel for Chelsea scoring 4 last week. Liverpool pretty much made 3 individual errors and were punished 4 times!!

What did ye think of Gerrard being in the Sky Sports studio last night? I might be overreacting but I can't help thinking it was a bit of a disgrace. Club captain more interested in making a few bucks instead of watching the match from the stands and being in the dressing room offering words of wisdom before the match and at half time, and even after the match seems a bit off to me.

very strange to have captain of club in sky sports studio instead of anfield for such an important game he would have been better off at anfield urging on his teamates

on the other hand manager must have gave him the ok to miss match also another strange decision

reder · 22/04/2009, 5:41 PM

Selling Agger would be an awful decision. He has great potential and JC isnt getting any younger. I dont see what he did wrong last night. Plenty are going off on one at Ryan Babel but I really dont know what he was supposed to do when he came on or what he did wrong.

**KK77** · 23/04/2009, 8:53 AM

Originally Posted by BarelyLegal

Ya I didn't see much at fault with Agger's performance to be honest. It would be no different than blaming Skertel for Chelsea scoring 4 last week. Liverpool pretty much made 3 individual errors and were punished 4 times!!

What did ye think of Gerrard being in the Sky Sports studio last night? I might be overreacting but I can't help thinking it was a bit of a disgrace. Club captain more interested in making a few bucks instead of watching the match from the stands and being in the dressing room offering words of wisdom before the match and at half time, and even after the match seems a bit off to me.

Yeah bit of a disgrace alright chasing the few bucks. They seem to be all at it now Phil Neville Everton captain been on and Gary Neville Man U captain on for a few games as well.

**old git** · 26/04/2009, 1:09 PM

Originally Posted by reder

Selling Agger would be an awful decision. He has great potential and JC isnt getting any younger. I dont see what he did wrong last night. Plenty are going off on one at Ryan Babel but I really dont know what he was supposed to do when he came on or what he did wrong.

seems agger has just rejected a new four year contract

maybe he is looking to leave ..

reder · 26/04/2009, 1:30 PM

Originally Posted by old git

seems agger has just rejected a new four year contract

maybe he is looking to leave ..

I'd say so. I will be disappointed to see him go.

I havent been overly impressed by Skrtel over the past few games. Yesterday in the Folan incident, he went down like a sack of ____ holding his head after he'd hardly been touched. He also needs to put a stop to the needless obstruction, he is going to get pulled up for it by a ref for it, sooner or later.

**old git** · 26/04/2009, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by reder

I'd say so. I will be disappointed to see him go.

I havent been overly impressed by Skrtel over the past few games. Yesterday in the Folan incident, he went down like a sack of ____ holding his head after he'd hardly been touched. He also needs to put a stop to the needless obstruction, he is going to get pulled up for it by a ref for it, sooner or later.

would agree as first reaction watching game was free kick to hull for a blatent obstruction by skrtel

**purplemonkeydis** · 27/04/2009, 9:20 PM

Agger will be a huge loss.but we have torres and gerrard..luks like dats al we need

reder · 29/04/2009, 9:12 AM

Juventus plot return for Liverpool's Xabi Alonso - Telegraph

Juventus are believed to be considering returning to Liverpool for the second successive summer in an effort to tempt midfield playmaker Xabi Alonso to swap the Premier League for Serie A.

By Rory Smith
Last Updated: 7:47PM BST 28 Apr 2009

Summer sales: Juventus are poised to bid for Liverpool's Xabi Alonso Photo: PA
The Turin side's manager Claudio Ranieri tried to sign the Spanish international last summer but failed to match Rafa Benitez's asking price, believed to be in the region of �16 million, as his Anfield counterpart tried to raise funds to sign Aston Villa's Gareth Barry.
Alonso has arguably been Liverpool's most consistent player this season and last week Benitez insisted he wanted to keep hold of the midfielder, one of his first signings upon arriving in England in the summer of 2004.

But Juventus have been alerted by Benitez's confession he will have to offload players if he is to swell his coffers sufficiently to land the reinforcements he needs to keep pace with Chelsea, Manchester United and a resurgent Arsenal next season.
While Benitez would be loath to part with Alonso, one of his most trusted on-pitch lieutenants, he has admitted he cannot guarantee he would not be tempted to part with the former Real Sociedad player if the club received the right offer.

Asked if he would reject an increased bid from Alonso's former suitors, Benitez simply said: "I don't know if Juventus would have that amount of money this summer because there is a crisis all around the world. We will have to wait and see. We didn't want to sell him last summer but in football everybody has a price."

Ernesto Bronzetti, the Italian superagent who advises many of Serie A's top clubs on transfers, admitted on Tuesday he still sees Alonso as the ideal foil for another former Liverpool midfielder, Momo Sissoko, in Ranieri's midfield.
He said: "I would try to bring in Alonso. There was a long chase last summer for his signature, of course, so it is a road we know. Pairing him with Sissoko would be a title-winning midfield. The problem is that it would be very hard and expensive to take such an important player away from Liverpool."
Alonso's long-time suitors, Real Madrid, are also thought to be tracking his progress, with presidential candidate Florentino Perez especially keen on landing him, should he win the Spanish club's forthcoming elections.

Well the line in bold is a big fat stinking lie, ain't it Rafa?

Also, would "everybody have a price" if this was about Gerrard or Torres.

The pure lies that man comes out with at times is just incredible.

**old git** · 29/04/2009, 9:49 AM

Originally Posted by reder

Well the line in bold is a big fat stinking lie, ain't it Rafa?

Also, would "everybody have a price" if this was about Gerrard or Torres.

The pure lies that man comes out with at times is just incredible.

rafa could not wait to offload alonso last year in his pursuit of barry and if fairness to alonso played some great football this season after all the s**T at start of season with benitiz trying to show him the door... don't also forget gerrard handed in transfer request and was also on way out to chelsea not so long ago

before he changed his mind at the last moment

**KK77** · 29/04/2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by old git

rafa could not wait to offload alonso last year in his pursuit of barry and if fairness to alonso played some great football this season after all the s**T at start of season with benitiz trying to show him the door... don't also forget gerrard handed in transfer request and was also on way out to chelsea not so long ago

before he changed his mind at the last moment

Gerrard situation happened a few seasons back now don't see what that's got to do with the Alonso situation

**Roadend** · 29/04/2009, 10:37 AM

Gerrard situation was to do with Parry's incompitence.
Alonso had played quite poorly the two season's prior to this, certainly nowhere near how he's played this year. So all this waffling on about why on earth he was going to sell him is fwell and good with the benefit of hindsight

**DeLorean** · 29/04/2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Roadend

Gerrard situation was to do with Parry's incompitence.
Alonso had played quite poorly the two season's prior to this, certainly nowhere near how he's played this year. So all this waffling on about why on earth he was going to sell him is fwell and good with the benefit of hindsight

Any Pool fan I know didn't need the benefit of hindsight ie. none of them wanted Alonso to leave. Some wouldn't have minded the arrival of Barry but not at the expense of Alonso. The big reason Alonso had been "poor" in the previous seasons is because he was being criminally under used by Rafa. He had him playing almost as a second holding midfielder whereas he seems to be playing with a bit more freedom these days, like the first month or two when he arrived at the club when he was outstanding.

**Stuttgart88** · 29/04/2009, 11:42 AM

It seems to take a while, sometimes even a few seasons, for the penny to drop with Benitez just how certain players are used best and even which of his players are actually any good.

I have to say I've been impressed by Kuyt recently and Benayoun is really only now showing how talented he is.

**jmurphyc** · 29/04/2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

It seems to take a while, sometimes even a few seasons, for the penny to drop with Benitez just how certain players are used best and even which of his players are actually any good.

I have to say I've been impressed by Kuyt recently and Benayoun is really only now showing how talented he is.

Yeah, I remember a while ago he said that it took him a while to realise just how good Finnan was.

reder · 29/04/2009, 1:00 PM

Originally Posted by Roadend

Gerrard situation was to do with Parry's incompitence.

And who handed in that transfer request for him? I suppose Parry did that as well. It could never have been, Mr. Steven "England superstar/scouser born and bred/How can I leave after Istanbul" Gerrard.

Strange that according to all Rafa lovers, Parry managed to mess up Gerrard's contract and _____ (insert your superstar of choice) 's signing, yet he miraculously managed to put through a �20m signing in Robbie Keane behind the back of the ever vigilant Mr Benitez.