Liverpool

**Pike B** · 20/03/2009, 8:14 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Carragher and Alonso would not get near the team and I dont think Mascherano would either Gerrard and Torres would and thats about it.

I disagree, but it happens a lot when you post.

**NeilMcD** · 20/03/2009, 8:22 PM

Do you honestly think that Carragher is a better centre half than Vidic.

I am presuming you are a Liverpool fan from your posts and you also seem to hate Manchester Utd whereas I do not give a damn about either team to be honest and just commenting it from an unbiased perspective. Still opinion at the end of the day but judging from your other posts about Liverpool and Man Utd I do think you will find it hard to be objective on this issue.

**Pike B** · 20/03/2009, 8:28 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Do you honestly think that Carragher is a better centre half than Vidic.

I am presuming you are a Liverpool fan from your posts and you also seem to hate Manchester Utd whereas I do not give a damn about either team to be honest and just commenting it from an unbiased perspective. Still opinion at the end of the day but judging from your other posts about Liverpool and Man Utd I do think you will find it hard to be objective on this issue.

Yes. I do.

Yes. I am a Liverpool fan. But I believe these players are good enough regardless.

No. I hate no football team.

No. I don't think I'll find it hard at all..

**NeilMcD** · 20/03/2009, 8:31 PM

Originally Posted by Pike B

Yes. I do.

Yes. I am a Liverpool fan. But I believe these players are good enough regardless.

No. I hate no football team.

No. I don't think I'll find it hard at all..

A deluded Liverpool fan I see. Must be tough waiting so many years to win a league again but sure get used to waiting esp if any of your future managers think that Carragher is better than Vidic the best player in the Premiership this season.

**Pike B** · 20/03/2009, 8:34 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

A deluded Liverpool fan I see. Must be tough waiting so many years to win a league again but sure get used to waiting esp if any of your future managers think that Carragher is better than Vidic the best player in the Premiership this season.

Torres roasted him good though didn't he...

**NeilMcD** · 20/03/2009, 8:37 PM

Originally Posted by Pike B

Torres roasted him good though didn't he...

Yeah one game. I would base my judgement on a number of seaons to be honest rather than one game and to be honest Torres is probably best striker in the world at the moment when fit.

**Pike B** · 20/03/2009, 8:42 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Yeah one game. I would base my judgement on a number of seaons to be honest rather than one game and to be honest Torres is probably best striker in the world at the moment when fit.

I am an admirer of Vidic. But I honestly think he's been given way too much credit for what he's done this season. Carra's been doing the same thing for us for a decade, but gets nowhere near the adulation or plaudits. Never could figure out why.

**bennocelt** · 21/03/2009, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Pike B

Carragher
Mascherano
Gerrard
Alonso
Torres

So thats almost half..

really? are you sure about this?
I have no beef with liverpool etc, but i thik rafa is rubbish, and their team has so many overrated players

Vidic is player of the year IMHO, where would you fit Gerrard in? Alonso and mascherano dont suit man u' style of play, and i would prefer ronaldo, tevez to torres

**Angus** · 21/03/2009, 8:20 PM

So Manure and Chelsea both lose - if this was a normal season you would put all of negative equity on liverpool to p*** it up tomorrow - however it isn't a normal season and liverpool, at last, have a world class striker - a world class player, indeed, for a change

Torres is the one aspect of liverpool that makes you think they can catch manu - man u were awful today and SAF has a job now

He has a big decision to make - the hairdresser has been messing about for a month and should be dropped - but that is a big decision

They prob have a big enough lead but liverpool have had a super chance to win this league - their main oppo are not playing well - yet they still have a mountain to climb

Tomorrow will tell a tale - it could be down to a point admittedely not with level games but squeaky bum time it is

**shakermaker1982** · 21/03/2009, 8:20 PM

Carragher better than Vidic? Are you serious?

Torres would walk into the Man Utd team. He's world class and Fergie would find a place for him somehow but the rest would not make my Man Utd lineup.

**awec** · 22/03/2009, 5:11 PM

Footballing master class today.

**jebus** · 22/03/2009, 6:07 PM

I don't support either club but to say Torres is the only player Sir Ferg could find a place for is rubbish

Reina, Alonso and Mascherano would get into United's first team and Agger, Gerrard and Ardebola would push for places as well, admittedly with Ardebola it would be because Neville is finished and Rafael probably needs another year or two

**sligofan4ever** · 22/03/2009, 6:18 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

I don't support either club but to say Torres is the only player Sir Ferg could find a place for is rubbish

Reina, Alonso and Mascherano would get into United's first team and Agger, Gerrard and Ardebola would push for places as well, admittedly with Ardebola it would be because Neville is finished and Rafael probably needs another year or two

Arbeloa .

**jebus** · 22/03/2009, 6:25 PM

I thought my spelling looked more like something you'd pick up off a girl on a sun holiday alright

**shakermaker1982** · 22/03/2009, 7:45 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

I don't support either club but to say Torres is the only player Sir Ferg could find a place for is rubbish

Reina, Alonso and Mascherano would get into United's first team and Agger, Gerrard and Ardebola would push for places as well, admittedly with Ardebola it would be because Neville is finished and Rafael probably needs another year or two

I'd have Van der Sar over Reina every day of the week between the sticks. He can deal with crossers for starters.

Alonso is a top player who I rate highly but I'd still take Scholes. Next season I might have to change my opinion but Scholes on his day is still as good as anybody and is a big game player (excluding the Fulham game). Agger cannot even get into the Liverpool first 11 at times so it's unlikely that he'd dislodge the best central partnership in the Premiership.

**Pike B** · 23/03/2009, 7:50 AM

Lads, does anyone else get as much pure joy from watching Xabi Alonso play as I do??
He is an incredible talent. Best passer of the ball I've ever seen. Never gets dispossesed and rarely a ball he passes gets intercepted. That pass from left to right to Kuyt yesterday was insane.

**Roadend** · 23/03/2009, 8:24 AM

Originally Posted by Pike B

Lads, does anyone else get as much pure joy from watching Xabi Alonso play as I do??
He is an incredible talent. Best passer of the ball I've ever seen. Never gets dispossesed and rarely a ball he passes gets intercepted. That pass from left to right to Kuyt yesterday was insane.

He wouldn't get into the utd. team though

**van der wheil** · 23/03/2009, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Carragher and Alonso would not get near the team and I dont think Mascherano would either Gerrard and Torres would and thats about it.

my logic is that centre backs are all about partnerships so Carragher and Vidic together would not work as there would be a lack of pace. As a result Carragher would be competing with Vidic and he is not as good as him.

Seconly Alonso would be competing with Scholes and Carrick and I do not think he is as good as either. He is a good player but not quite as good as Scholes or Carrick.

Mascherano is one dimensional and only works in a 3 man central midfielder where he can do the defensive job to perfection but is lacking when it comes to creating. As a result he gets found out when playing as a two in central midfield.

Gerrard and Torres would be good enough though.

Whatever about scholes but bloody carrick LOL - wouldnt even get in the spanish squad

**van der wheil** · 23/03/2009, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Pike B

Lads, does anyone else get as much pure joy from watching Xabi Alonso play as I do??
He is an incredible talent. Best passer of the ball I've ever seen. Never gets dispossesed and rarely a ball he passes gets intercepted. That pass from left to right to Kuyt yesterday was insane.

Very good player Pike B - Best passer of a ball i ever seen was ronald koeman.