Football in Shannon '09

**old git** · 25/02/2009, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Goals4fun

i think as pike b said aslo the best shannon could offer would be in the premier in town. Might even push for a title with the right management /set up (last time park had the pick of the town they won the lawson and got to the fai 1/4, players lost interest and setup fell apart and they were nearly relegated the following year).
The players that would not make this team/squad would be in 1a if you ask me and maybe the 3rd team not far behind that.
At the moment you have some good players with each team all fighting for the same thing, promotion ..... surely a united team would achive this...

who would be the best you could call on from the shannon teams or players that have left and playing locally. That is the only way to judge it. you would however need somebody who only has shannon football in mind to take on a job like that and not somebody who is aligned to one club or the other..

so to get a united team ex shannon .. what do you call it / who manages it...

do you also disband park afc / shannon olympic / shannon town can't see this ever happening to many people involved with clubs & to much petty politics .. if it did happen
i think team would get into preimer league no bother .. as you would also attract players from neighbouring parishs to strenghten squad,
would love to see it happening but can honestly say i don't think it will ever be possible

**Stanley** · 25/02/2009, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Goals4fun

i think as pike b said aslo the best shannon could offer would be in the premier in town. Might even push for a title with the right management /set up (last time park had the pick of the town they won the lawson and got to the fai 1/4, players lost interest and setup fell apart and they were nearly relegated the following year).
The players that would not make this team/squad would be in 1a if you ask me and maybe the 3rd team not far behind that.
At the moment you have some good players with each team all fighting for the same thing, promotion ..... surely a united team would achive this...

who would be the best you could call on from the shannon teams or players that have left and playing locally. That is the only way to judge it. you would however need somebody who only has shannon football in mind to take on a job like that and not somebody who is aligned to one club or the other..

i'm confused... why would a "united" shannon team even want to play in the Limerick Premier League? Is Shannon not in County Clare?...

**Lev Yashin** · 25/02/2009, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Stanley

i'm confused... why would a "united" shannon team even want to play in the Limerick Premier League? Is Shannon not in County Clare?...

Well you have Shannon Town and Park in the limerick league and only Shannon Olympic in the Clare league so it would make sense to stay in the Limerick League, now i know Rineanna and Bunratty play in Clare but they aren't technically in Shannon. And, without wanting to start the debate again. i think its assumed that the Limerick league is stronger.

**Pike B** · 25/02/2009, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by shannonman

Well you have Shannon Town and Park in the limerick league and only Shannon Olympic in the Clare league so it would make sense to stay in the Limerick League, now i know Rineanna and Bunratty play in Clare but they aren't technically in Shannon. And, without wanting to start the debate again. i think its assumed that the Limerick league is stronger.

It is..

**Lev Yashin** · 25/02/2009, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Pike B

It is..

You got your wooden spoon out again??

**Stanley** · 25/02/2009, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by shannonman

Well you have Shannon Town and Park in the limerick league and only Shannon Olympic in the Clare league so it would make sense to stay in the Limerick League, now i know Rineanna and Bunratty play in Clare but they aren't technically in Shannon. And, without wanting to start the debate again. i think its assumed that the Limerick league is stronger.

I've been told the A.U.L. is a strong league too... Why don't we play there altogether?...

**Goals4fun** · 25/02/2009, 5:01 PM

what anbody involved in football in shannon should want, is to have the best team with the best local plays, playing to the highest they can (be it clare or limerick leagues).
To think that a few mindless muppets is keeping this apart is crazy. for the last number of years all clubs have struggled financially as they were all selling lotto tickets on each others door step, all trying to have great grounds (again at a cost), all struggling for managers (decent ones anyway) for the underage set up.
If the people who do not want this to happen get their way the clubs struggle and struggle. Shannon is too small for 3 clubs to be run successfully.

Park have a great youths, i suspect that this is the only youths team in shannon or has the best players. What will these players do when the finish youths, move on, just like paddy purcell, brendy hughes, damien o'rourke, davy wall (eventually)....says it all really

Have a look at what wolfe tones can achieve, that could be a dream for shannon football, but while everbody sits around doing nothing, throwing mud at each other it will just be a sad dream....

**old git** · 25/02/2009, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by Goals4fun

what anbody involved in football in shannon should want, is to have the best team with the best local plays, playing to the highest they can (be it clare or limerick leagues).
To think that a few mindless muppets is keeping this apart is crazy. for the last number of years all clubs have struggled financially as they were all selling lotto tickets on each others door step, all trying to have great grounds (again at a cost), all struggling for managers (decent ones anyway) for the underage set up.
If the people who do not want this to happen get their way the clubs struggle and struggle. Shannon is too small for 3 clubs to be run successfully.

Park have a great youths, i suspect that this is the only youths team in shannon or has the best players. What will these players do when the finish youths, move on, just like paddy purcell, brendy hughes, damien o'rourke, davy wall (eventually)....says it all really

Have a look at what wolfe tones can achieve, that could be a dream for shannon football, but while everbody sits around doing nothing, throwing mud at each other it will just be a sad dream....

mindless muppets over the top ( i'm supposed to be the grumpy old git

)
lot of excellent work over the years to build up their clubs at shannon town / park / newtown /olympic.. also players will still move on no matter how good your club is.. park youth team next year how many will want to stay at club as b team players or subs or even subs for a team !! as for wolfe tones different situation club formed as part of a new town / parish were only 1 sport was allowed ( so no real competition) with alot of support & help from local business / community but fair dues to them for continuing to progress with their excellent facilites .. but soccer clubs finally now seem to be getting their act together re-facilities with probaly less support & help wolfe tones received .. 1 club ex shannon started with shannon town in 1969 and over 30 years later we have park afc / newtown ( now gone) shannon olympic and even de beers .. so getting back to one team ex shannon is unfortunatly only a sad dream

**2legged tackle** · 26/02/2009, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by old git

park youth team next year how many will want to stay at club as b team players or subs or even subs for a team !!

Out of the Park youths team this year that are youths and not 16's or 17's I can think of 8 players that would be in with a chance in this years "A" Team. Theres four of them playing this Sunday for the A team and they all probably have a good chance of starting. I know its a massive step as the quality of football is probably worse and they have to get used to the "aul fellas" kicking them but if we do go up this year I can't see many of them leaving.

**Goals4fun** · 26/02/2009, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by old git

mindless muppets over the top ( i'm supposed to be the grumpy old git

)
lot of excellent work over the years to build up their clubs at shannon town / park / newtown /olympic.. also players will still move on no matter how good your club is.. park youth team next year how many will want to stay at club as b team players or subs or even subs for a team !! as for wolfe tones different situation club formed as part of a new town / parish were only 1 sport was allowed ( so no real competition) with alot of support & help from local business / community but fair dues to them for continuing to progress with their excellent facilites .. but soccer clubs finally now seem to be getting their act together re-facilities with probaly less support & help wolfe tones received .. 1 club ex shannon started with shannon town in 1969 and over 30 years later we have park afc / newtown ( now gone) shannon olympic and even de beers .. so getting back to one team ex shannon is unfortunatly only a sad dream

while i agree with some of your posts, imagine what 1 club could achieve. it is only a few people stopping this. It would be worth asking all the players in Shannon would they like one club and to play at the highest level? if they didn't they may as well be doen at the tones training facility playing 5 a side..

**First** · 26/02/2009, 11:25 AM

To pin your hopes on a youths team as being the future of Park AFC is not very smart. Youths will move on , to other clubs , to other sports ,to life without football , its the way it works.

Park AFC are trying to get somewhere, to be admired but it is a pity that it , from the outside , was to the detremint of a club like Newtown. Shannon competing in the Premier in Limerick as a united team , made up of all the Shannon clubs and as some have mentioned , Rineanna and Bunratty players is in my mind a pipe dream.

As long as I have been around Shannon there have been cliques , I can't ever see these disappearing . Who will hold the reigns , what clubs will fold ?

Though it would be great to have a Shannon team made up of the best players in the locality challenging for FAI and MJC , I can't see a single football entity existing , too many differences. Better still it would be great to see a team doing this while in the Clare League.

I wonder how a Newmarket , Rineanna and Bunratty amalgamation would go down ........nah can't see it happening either.....

**gaisc�och** · 26/02/2009, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Goals4fun

while i agree with some of your posts, imagine what 1 club could achieve. it is only a few people stopping this. It would be worth asking all the players in Shannon would they like one club and to play at the highest level? if they didn't they may as well be doen at the tones training facility playing 5 a side..

As First said their are too many cliques to have one team in Shannon?
Shannon town were the first club in the town if it was possible why did they all split and go their seperate ways?

If the amalgamation(mass extermination of Shannon Football) was to become reality then we should head back up to Shannon Town and apologise for ever leaving. I can almost gaurantee that 50% of all the players in Shannon have played with them at some stage anyhow.

Second of all why did you call all the people who didn't agree to the amalgamation "Muppets"?

I call them visionaries. If they all amalgamated then history would repeat itself they are only only sparing themselves the hassle of going through it again.

When there was only one team in this town what did they win?
I'm not old enough to remember?

**Lev Yashin** · 26/02/2009, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Goals4fun

while i agree with some of your posts, imagine what 1 club could achieve. it is only a few people stopping this. It would be worth asking all the players in Shannon would they like one club and to play at the highest level? if they didn't they may as well be doen at the tones training facility playing 5 a side..

I just think a bit or rivilary is great, ive been with Shannon Town 20 years and for the first time i feel the club is going foreward and progressing...right from the bottom, a lot of work has gone into getting us back to respectable and i dont think it would benefit us to amalgamate with anyone, i think IF we get promoted we will draw some of the best players around....thats just my opinion and i know its not shared.

**Pike B** · 26/02/2009, 1:01 PM

Quick question as a non Shannon person.
Who is the best Shannon born player playing at the moment?

**Side Cutter** · 26/02/2009, 1:11 PM

Ger Kelly

Davey wall

Obviously pa purcell but he isnt playing in shannon

**Goals4fun** · 26/02/2009, 1:15 PM

Originally Posted by Pike B

Quick question as a non Shannon person.
Who is the best Shannon born player playing at the moment?

not too many shannon born players out there.
Pa purcell is born in Dublin
G Kelly in Limerick (not sure when he moved to shannon)
Not sure about davey wall....

**Goals4fun** · 26/02/2009, 1:21 PM

Originally Posted by Axe Man

As First said their are too many cliques to have one team in Shannon?
Shannon town were the first club in the town if it was possible why did they all split and go their seperate ways? Though they could do better

If the amalgamation(mass extermination of Shannon Football) was to become reality then we should head back up to Shannon Town and apologise for ever leaving. I can almost gaurantee that 50% of all the players in Shannon have played with them at some stage anyhow. Not a bad idea plus their team is highest in Limerick but you would have to decide where to play ball. It would be up to the players if you ask me (limerick under park or clare under olympic)

Second of all why did you call all the people who didn't agree to the amalgamation "Muppets"? why do they wish to be big fish in little ponds or helping the greater cause of football in shannon

I call them visionaries. If they all amalgamated then history would repeat itself they are only only sparing themselves the hassle of going through it again.

When there was only one team in this town what did they win? not sure but would probably not have the talent there in now or was in the past few years
I'm not old enough to remember?

i canot believe that there are small minded people here who would not want 1 team in shannon, is that so some of the lesser players can still play 'top' football or that all the players hate each other, or is it the big wigs behind the scene keeping what they can of memories......

**Pike B** · 26/02/2009, 1:44 PM

Originally Posted by Goals4fun

not too many shannon born players out there.
Pa purcell is born in Dublin
G Kelly in Limerick (not sure when he moved to shannon)
Not sure about davey wall....

See this is why I asked. Isn't Davy Wall a Dub?

**Goals4fun** · 26/02/2009, 2:13 PM

Originally Posted by Pike B

See this is why I asked. Isn't Davy Wall a Dub?

yeah but all would have grown up in shannon and playing underage football in shannon........

**Lev Yashin** · 26/02/2009, 2:37 PM

Originally Posted by Goals4fun

not too many shannon born players out there.
Pa purcell is born in Dublin
G Kelly in Limerick (not sure when he moved to shannon)
Not sure about davey wall....

No maternity hospital in shannon sure!!