Roy Keane interview in the Times

**Superhoops** · 23/02/2009, 9:01 AM

Originally Posted by ifk101

Makes you wonder why the Independent is publishing a commentary on an article published in the Times.

The article by Tom Humphries was syndicated to several papers over the weekend and the article or summaries of it appeared in every paper I saw on Saturday or Sunday.

**OwlsFan** · 23/02/2009, 9:11 AM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

66 caps might have something to do with it

I repeat what has this got to do with the current Irish team? Should we start threads on Charlie Hurley or Paddy Roche? There are a number of threads already on Keane in the World Football Forum.

**Sligo Hornet** · 23/02/2009, 9:52 AM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

I repeat what has this got to do with the current Irish team? Should we start threads on Charlie Hurley or Paddy Roche? There are a number of threads already on Keane in the World Football Forum.

Totally agree.....this creating of nonsense threads really does my head in

**Drumcondra 69er** · 23/02/2009, 9:54 AM

Originally Posted by ifk101

Makes you wonder why the Independent is publishing a commentary on an article published in the Times.

Really? There's also comment from Aidan O'Hara in the Independent and Dunphy in The Star and I'm sure you'll see comment elsewhere over the course of the week.

I think the clue might be in the headline off the article itself.......

Good read, lot of excuises in it for me though and Humphries is so sycophantic with Keane these days it's beyond belief. No need for the comments about Clarke, it can't be pleasant to have that bitterness towards other people inside.

**shakermaker1982** · 23/02/2009, 9:56 AM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

I repeat what has this got to do with the current Irish team? Should we start threads on Charlie Hurley or Paddy Roche? There are a number of threads already on Keane in the World Football Forum.

Does this apply to all other threads on ex internationals? Kavanagh, Kinnear etc etc. Funny how nobody bats an eyelid. Keane thread starts up and it's world war 3 again in here!!!

**Drumcondra 69er** · 23/02/2009, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

Does this apply to all other threads on ex internationals? Kavanagh, Kinnear etc etc. Funny how nobody bats an eyelid. Keane thread starts up and it's world war 3 again in here!!!

Exactly. Some people are very precious and a little bit anal about threads being in the right place on here. I mean we don't want to see multiple threads on the same topics but it's hardly the hanging offence it seems to be conisdered on here.

**ifk101** · 23/02/2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

I think the clue might be in the headline off the article itself.......

Exactly - it was a press release written in typical press release insightfulness.

**seanfhear** · 23/02/2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Guts&Glory

Have you read the article??

He pegged it when Short was doing a missus on his case wondering where he was and why he didn't live in Sunderland with his family.

This despite Quinn, Short and Drumaville all living away from Sunderland.

Keane left for the same reason Rafa is having so much hassle at Liverpool (and I ain't a Liverpool fan) he could see the writing on the wall with Short on his case, questioing his signings, his motives etc.

I applaud him for leaving rather than be bossed by Short and sitting palying waiting game potentially to be sacked and taking his severence pay unlike so many others in the game.

If I had to pay for the players that Keane bought and their wages and the large amount of players that he bought then I would be asking questions as well.
Roy Keane is just a mortal man and has to answer for his actions like anyone else.
A footall manager is just an employee afterall and when he or supporters lose sight of this they have lost the plot.

**Hibernian** · 23/02/2009, 1:14 PM

Read it yesterday and as a Keane fan he really is not making many friends coming out and saying some the stuff he has said.

I taught the piece about Clarke was little low.

The problem with Keane is that he was not used to seeing players not as good as him unable to track back etc from championship standard and to repeat this process in the premiership.

I don't think he is cut out to be premiership manager he has much to learn.

Although I will say i would he did a better job then people give him credit for he did get them promoted from nowhere in fairness but he championship standard at best.

**Ash** · 23/02/2009, 1:22 PM

Originally Posted by Hibernian

I taught the piece about Clarke was little low.

I read the piece yesterday and sounded like he was trying to be funny but
ended up making himself look like a right old c u next tuesday.

**Greenbod** · 23/02/2009, 3:06 PM

Originally Posted by Jdrams fan

cause if we had a few more like him in the team in saipan instead of the windy b***ards we had we could have surprised a few people at that tournament.

Yea, they would have been really surprised, when nobody turned up!

**eirebhoy** · 23/02/2009, 4:27 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

I repeat what has this got to do with the current Irish team? Should we start threads on Charlie Hurley or Paddy Roche? There are a number of threads already on Keane in the World Football Forum.

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=103340

**Razors left peg** · 23/02/2009, 4:28 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

I repeat what has this got to do with the current Irish team? Should we start threads on Charlie Hurley or Paddy Roche? There are a number of threads already on Keane in the World Football Forum.

Its not that long ago since we had long running thread about Dave Langan and nobody had any issue with that.

**Stuttgart88** · 23/02/2009, 5:55 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Keane say that he accepted many of his signings were mediocre but he needed bodies and subsequently having a lot of players not playing naturally led to discontent. Then he goes on to criticise Clarke for saying that players were unhappy?

Anyway, my recollection is that what Clarke said is that all Keane did was shout at people. Clarke may have had experience of it or may have been told by his mates at the club. He didn't need to have been there. Cheap shot by Keane and shows he doesn't take criticism well.

I thought Keane's comments about Ellis (who put in �25 million of his own money into the cluab and actually offered Keane a new contract) were a bit daft. Contrary to the view above that he was right to walk away, it just goes to show that Keane has no respect for authority and that any potential club owner would be mad to hire him.

In my opinion Ellis was perfectly entitled to ask why the club manager doesn't live near Sunderland. Quinn doesn't have a day-to-day involvement with the playing side so he can live where where he likes.

Personally I've little time for Keane (on the basis of articles like this anyway) but then again by all accounts Lance Armstrong is an utterly horrible character. Doesn't mean he wasn't great.

**John83** · 23/02/2009, 6:43 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

His comments on clive Clare were bang out of order

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Im a big Keane fan but have to agree on that one

I agreed wholeheartedly on that when I saw the quote. In the article, he mentions that he's ****ed at Clarke for an interview he gave claiming Keane had lost the dressing room. That may be the source of it. Still in poor taste though.

**Brendan 82** · 23/02/2009, 7:42 PM

Keane's lack of people skills were not such a big deal when he was a player. As a manager they are his downfall

**Guts&Glory** · 23/02/2009, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Keane say that he accepted many of his signings were mediocre but he needed bodies and subsequently having a lot of players not playing naturally led to discontent. Then he goes on to criticise Clarke for saying that players were unhappy?

Anyway, my recollection is that what Clarke said is that all Keane did was shout at people. Clarke may have had experience of it or may have been told by his mates at the club. He didn't need to have been there. Cheap shot by Keane and shows he doesn't take criticism well.

I thought Keane's comments about Ellis (who put in �25 million of his own money into the cluab and actually offered Keane a new contract) were a bit daft. Contrary to the view above that he was right to walk away, it just goes to show that Keane has no respect for authority and that any potential club owner would be mad to hire him.

In my opinion Ellis was perfectly entitled to ask why the club manager doesn't live near Sunderland. Quinn doesn't have a day-to-day involvement with the playing side so he can live where where he likes.
Personally I've little time for Keane (on the basis of articles like this anyway) but then again by all accounts Lance Armstrong is an utterly horrible character. Doesn't mean he wasn't great.

Quinn is the Chairman running the business side of things, how can he do that properly from Dublin???????

**tetsujin1979** · 23/02/2009, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Guts&Glory

Quinn is the Chairman running the business side of things, how can he do that properly from Dublin???????

not every business manager lives near said buisness

**soccerc** · 23/02/2009, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Guts&Glory

Quinn is the Chairman running the business side of things, how can he do that properly from Dublin???????

Since Short bought out Drumaville, Quinn is chairman in name only.

**OwlsFan** · 24/02/2009, 9:18 AM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Its not that long ago since we had long running thread about Dave Langan and nobody had any issue with that.

Because it was about his service to Ireland. This, on the other hand, is about Keane's role in leaving a Premiership club - not a smidgeon about Ireland as far as I can see. Anyway, the powers that be have decided that this is relevant to the Irish team and who am I to question this