If Swinford are promoted three teams would have to be relegated. So little thought was put into this its scarey.
Here are the 2 tables as they stand now:
League table for Elverys Sports Super League
Team P W L D + - +/- Pts
Ballina Town 11 9 2 0 29 10 19 27
Westport United 12 9 3 0 33 17 16 27
Iorras Aontaithe 11 7 3 1 24 13 11 22
Manulla 12 5 5 2 24 28 -4 17
Snugboro United 10 5 4 1 23 17 6 16
Fahy Rovers 11 5 5 1 20 21 -1 16
Castlebar Celtic 12 3 5 4 19 29 -10 13
Ballyheane 11 3 5 3 13 17 -4 12
Straide & Foxford 12 2 7 3 14 27 -13 9
Kilmore 12 1 10 1 9 29 -20 4
League table for Welcome Inn Hotel Premier Division
Team P W L D + - +/- Pts
Swinford 14 10 2 2 39 20 19 32
Westport United B 13 9 2 2 38 18 20 29
Bangor Hibs 14 8 5 1 28 28 0 25
Iorras Aontaithe B 13 7 4 2 32 24 8 23
Partry Athletic 21
Crossmolina 17
Ballinrobe Town 13
Claremorris 12
Manulla B 10
Castlebar Celtic B 7
if it was to finish as is then 1 up and 1 down, but if something was to happen that westport b and erris b finish in the top 2 then no one goes up and will see what happens with the super league becoming an 8 team league, with S&F and Kilmore coming down.
but i'd say swinford & westport b will finish in the top 2.
If Swinford are promoted three teams would have to be relegated. So little thought was put into this its scarey.
if swinford go up only one will be relegated,we think the idea about the problem with, if two b teams finish in top two of premier is that the league can decide that it might be better to relegate two from super league if bottom two have not done enough to jusitify place in super league.
As it stands - Swinford would replaced Kilmore and the super league will be a 10 team division next year - end of
well we will see who finishes bottom! If we got any justice from refs we would have a better chance!
Your missing the point; he's saying if Swinford go up alone three PREMIER division teams will be relegated. And he's right; it's a total an utter **** up by the mayo League. Also, the idea that they can decide whether to relegate Super league teams on the basis of if they 'have done enough to justify their place in the league' is so arrogant it's beyond belief. There could be a huge stink over this, and deservedly so.Originally Posted by pinero
Dont think your right there FF. Swinford put forward the proposal as issued my the MAFL. If two B sides finish top of the premier then no promotion and no relegation from the SL, Unless the MAFL decide to make the SL an 8 team league and automatically relegate the bottom 2. This would be the worst senario as it would mean a reshuffle of all the divisions.
It has not been thought through very well as it would lead to 12 teams in the premier (relegation of more than 2 teams from the premier has never been mentioned).
If one of the top 2 in the Premier is not a b side ie. Swinford, then its 1 up and 1 down and continue on the next season.
The only mention of making the SL an 8 team division was if the top 2 in the premier were b sides and then the MAFL would make a decision on the best way forward.
But as I have said on numerous ocassions this will never be sorted out unless we get a seperate division for reserve sides as happens all across the world. It is a complete mess and no one really understands what is happening at this late stage of the season. This situation is always going to be a bone of contention and it will be the same question every year and a constant headache in relation to promotion and relegation of teams from the premier to the SL when the B teams are involved.
It should be a smoothe transition from one tier to another without all the red tape and BS and no get out of jail free cards for teams finishing 2nd bottom of our top division.
Its ok we have no problem understanding the concept of the idea. Its the idea itself that has not been thought through. How can teams be promoted or more importantly relegated when a league has finished. They might get more applications to the Connaught senior league then they thought
on a change of topic, any news on the oscar traynor team this year? who's the manager and when is it starting?
Judging by the level of foresight being applied by the mayo league so far, eleven guys will get text messages at 7 in the morning some Sunday saying 'You have been selected for the Oscar Traynor team. Please be in Donegal for 2 o clock today and await further instructions'...
I don't know. Usually it's September right? No idea who the manager is, hopefully it won't be someone currently connected with a Mayo League team so we can avoid the spectacle of overtly biased choices, as has happened in the past.
Just a remark or two on your last paragraph!!! 1.What do you mean manager not connected with another mayo league club.That surely has to be the only way they would know the players
2.When did the bias happen in the past and if you explain that tell us all the managers name?
Your right there should be a seperate division for B teams and it would solve a lot of the BS thats goin on in the mayo leagues!
If Swinford go up only one can be relegated can not relegate two because that would leave super league uneven ,8 team super league is only an option if two b teams go up.
I hear Ballyheane have been deducted points and fined for game that was called off against Erris for swine flu.Anyone from Ballyheane got any details.
I heard a rumour that they might be deducted points but haven't heard confirmation? Again I heard the same reason - swine fluI hear Ballyheane have been deducted points and fined for game that was called off against Erris for swine flu.
I meant I'd prefer if it was not a current manager of a Mayo league team. there are plenty of people who either know, or could get to know the majority of the players. See my post from a few years ago below to get my answer to your second question.
Ciaran Kelly (Castlebar Celtic)
Martin McGreal (Westport Utd.)
Niall Gallagher (Ballyglass)
Joe Lawless (Westport Utd)
Seamus Higgins (Westport Utd.)
Declan Flynn (Snugboro)
Peter Burke (Ballyheane)
Pierce Loftus (Crossmolina)
Eoghan McHale (Westport Utd.)
Tommy Walsh (Manulla)
Andy Neary Castlebar Celtic)
James Gillespie (Glenhest Rovers)
Mark McGreal (Manulla)
Dave Cameron (Westport Utd.)
David Roughneen (Snugboro)
Johan Collins (Snugboro)
Philip Devers (Ballina Town)
Malachy Byrne (Manulla)
Gordon Carter (Swinford)
Charlie O’Donnell (Mulranny)
Eugene Gorman (Ballina Town)
Tom Molloy (Mulranny)
Sean McHale (Castlebar Celtic)
Derek Glynn (Claremorris)
Vinny O’Malley (Westport Utd.)
Dessie O’Malley (Westport Utd.)
Mick Duffy (Ballina Town)
Gary Price (Castlebar Celtic)
Ronan O’Boyle (Castlebar Celtic)
I think that Mick Wallace has taken his first steps into managing the Oscar Traynor team by picking his inaugural squad and in doing so lost credibility already. I understand Swift's point about the need to explore the possibilities in the lower leagues, but when you consider the fact that this squad has only one more Castlebar Celtic player than it does Mulranny players, you realise it's neither coincidental nor sensible. There are only three players from the Premier Divison on the squad, so why he chooses two players from Mulranny, who finished fourth from bottom of the First Division, as the only representatives from that league, is a bit of an anomaly.
Until you remember that he played in goal for them a few seasons ago.
Charlie O Donnell is a skillful midfielder with a great touch but has been winding down this past few seasons. He left Glenhest to take his football nice and handy for Mulranny and it would really surprise me if he has any notion of playing football at such a competitive level again. Tom Molloy is an average striker in the first division and failed to get into the top FIFTEEN scorers when they played in the premier division last season.
Wallace's last club, Westport United, have five representatives in the squad, which is easier to justify. However, Seamus Higgins has played most of this season as a B team player and seems unlikely to break into their first team, let alone the county team. Last week against Castlebar Celtic he only made the bench, despite them being without Lovejoy (Who is a huge loss to the Oscar Traynor team) and Joe Lawless in defence. (Joe was playing in midfield). Instead the manager choose to play himself, wisely as it turned out as he scored twice. I dont think he's a bad player, just that there are other centre-halves of a higher calibre currently playing in the league. Erris United must be wondering how they managed to come second in the super league without a single player that's up to Mulranny standard.
Glad to see Derek Glynn getting a chance from the start of the season this year, hopefully his pace and finishing will see him making the most of his call up.
In Relation to the manager,its going to be hard to source anybody from outside the league,that is unless he is getting well looked after and also If Declan Kilkelly is not doing it this year.I just believe that it is better to have somebody that is currently involved in a club in the mayo league as they would/should know all the players.
The other point...Lets just say I will agree with you in relation to that manager
rubbish! about ballyheane losing pts
Well erris have been given the points for that game as far as i know.I hear Ballyheane have been deducted points and fined for game that was called off against Erris for swine flu.
About them losing points... I think its up to erris if they want to send in a complaint about it!
Anyone hear about Kilmore bein given any points no???
Not losing any points but they wont be getting any from Erris, that fixture has been given as a walkover...pressure will be on for Ballyheane now who will be mucking it out for survival!
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