Cork City Financial Discussion

**Dodge** · 19/02/2009, 1:51 PM

In fairness I'm with Rovers maniac on this. Very serious illness and some of the comments here are at best in poor taste

**corkboy360** · 19/02/2009, 3:43 PM

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

Is this what Cork City fans are coming to? Hopefully these 3 to do not represent the true Cork city fans that think Farrelly was letting on he had a serious illness. Disgusting.

Originally Posted by Nesta99

Out of order! having been paid in total and without question by my own employer while 'lying in a hospital bed' with a life threatening illness!!

I never accused him of faking an injury he's not John O Flynn
Comment was not meant in a bad way just a mere observation s for the others 2 comments that were deleted did not see them so don't know.

**micls** · 19/02/2009, 5:27 PM

Originally Posted by ndrog

Thats not right micls .OUR manager Alan matthews has been hard done by and deserves what he is owed .Unless of course he agrees on a settlement .

Originally Posted by corkboy360

Exactly.No matter what the case justice should be done the man does have a family to look after.

Alan Mathews family are not going hungry ffs. He just picked up a 50k bonus. He was paid ridiculous money for a years works.

Now this isnt his fault, wed all have taken it and if the court decides he's due more then fair enough.

BUT I hope they side with us, as Id imagine any other LOI fan in the position would.

And Ndrog, you must be having a laugh right? If the court hadn't sided with ye regarding payments you wouldn't have a club now....I'm sure you were wishing they didn't though.

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

Is this what Cork City fans are coming to? Hopefully these 3 to do not represent the true Cork city fans that think Farrelly was letting on he had a serious illness. Disgusting.

If you're responding to Razor I think what he meant was that Farrelly didn't have cancer(luckily), which he didn't. He had a tumour but it wasn't cancerous.

On the Mathews thing, loads of City fans have heard his threats and rumours from when he was still our manager.

I had huge respect for how he acted when the everything went wrong but dont be naive. If he'd walked away at that stage he'd have lost 4 months wages and a 50k Setanta cup bonus. Its to easy to walk away from a possible 100k, he had motivation to stay. But regardless he did a great job and gained huge respect from us.

His actions since though leave a sour taste

**El-Pietro** · 19/02/2009, 5:43 PM

Originally Posted by corkboy360

I wonder ?
Darragh Ryan

hmm

you sure El-Pietro we have been sucked into lies by owners before

cant speak for the players but the staff have been paid

**corkboy360** · 19/02/2009, 8:07 PM

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

cant speak for the players but the staff have been paid

Dunno people buying into it too easy after what happened us last season im not trusting anyone. Maybe TNB does not know who Gareth is

**CSFShels** · 19/02/2009, 9:09 PM

Would relegation to the First be the end of this sequel of the Cork series? They must have one of the higher wage bills in the Premier, how the hell would that work in the first? I'm sure players wouldn't just agree to leave.

**gufct** · 20/02/2009, 8:29 AM

2 pages in the sun this morning about Farrelly plus it states there are 3 other players due money by Cork. The FAI have washed their hands off the Farrely case which seems incredible.

**Longfordian** · 20/02/2009, 10:14 AM

Especially as they most certainly did not wash their hands of other ex-employees at other clubs. No consistency as ever.

**Hibs4Ever** · 20/02/2009, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

2 pages in the sun this morning about Farrelly plus it states there are 3 other players due money by Cork. The FAI have washed their hands off the Farrely case which seems incredible.

http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/1320/

**Dodge** · 20/02/2009, 1:20 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

The FAI statement on Farrelly's claim CLEARLY states that all players owed monies have been sorted out, despite the rumours on here and in sections of the media. "All players who were due outstanding monies by Cork City FC and followed the club licensing process have received payment in full accordance with the agreements reached between the players, the PFAI and the club." www.fai.ie

The FAI also state "...Cork City... were given licences on the basis that financial commitments they have made will be honoured within the agreed dates before the start of the 2009 season."

So if the financial commitments are not to players, what are to? Surely all other debt was cleared/payed during examinership

**razor** · 20/02/2009, 1:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

Is this what Cork City fans are coming to? Hopefully these 3 to do not represent the true Cork city fans that think Farrelly was letting on he had a serious illness. Disgusting.

If you're referring to my post then this is a ridiculous comment.
I never for one second said that Farrelly feigned illness, i'm well aware the man was seriously ill and wasn't making light of it, I was merely correcting your incorrect post.

**Dodge** · 20/02/2009, 1:46 PM

Sorry, you didn't give a link so I presumed mine was more up to date (yours wasn't on website)

**Dodge** · 20/02/2009, 2:22 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

Your quote is from last Monday, mine is from today, I'd assume therefore, that any outstadnding issues where players are concerned [if there even were any] have been sorted in the past few days.

Actually reading that now...

FAI response

Seems to me that Farrelly is still owed money

**Dodge** · 20/02/2009, 3:15 PM

Well I'm not a legal eagle but the FAI wording certainly indicates that there was a debt owed but seeing as he circumvented licensing, there's nothing they could do

I'm not getting into whether he was or wasn't

**Celdrog** · 20/02/2009, 4:22 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

if he'd taken a 30% pay deferral back then, he'd have 100% of money to the end of his contract now.

Not the way I read it. He'd have an agreement in place to get it. That could be a tenner a week, could be a grand a week.
Read the statement again carefully. You haven't defaulted on the initial payments yet but it certainly isn't clear that all players have all their money.

Originally Posted by FAI

"All players who were due outstanding monies by Cork City FC and followed the club licensing process have received payment in full accordance with the agreements reached between the players, the PFAI and the club." www.fai.ie

**Celdrog** · 20/02/2009, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

Drogs fans should know this stuff inside out.

Why the hell should we know this stuff inside out. Do you think the examiner gave us classes on what was going on. I'm saying nothing about Gareth Farrelly. All I'm pointing out is that the FAI statement can be interpreted such that some (ex) Cork players are still owed money but the FAI accepted the schedule of payments.

Seeing as you know so much, when is Alan Matthews getting his �200k? And also tell Doolo to stop wearing Drogs gear.

**Mr A** · 21/02/2009, 9:15 AM

Whatever about the legality of it, not paying Farrelly because he was ill is pretty reprehensible morally. I appreciate that the examiner had to be ruthless, but this is exactly the sort of thing that should see clubs who go down the examinership route severely punished due to the damage to the league's reputation.

**Steveoc** · 21/02/2009, 2:16 PM

G.F. wasn't let go because he was ill. He was offered the same deal as other staff i.e. 30% of their wages initally by the examiner and he refused thus leaving the examiner with no option but to dispense with his services in the same way as he dispensed with the services of the assistant manager, general manager, commercial manager and club shop staff - all of whom weren't given the option of the 30% of wages.

**micls** · 21/02/2009, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by Steveoc

G.F. wasn't let go because he was ill. He was offered the same deal as other staff i.e. 30% of their wages initally by the examiner and he refused thus leaving the examiner with no option but to dispense with his services in the same way as he dispensed with the services of the assistant manager, general manager, commercial manager and club shop staff - all of whom weren't given the option of the 30% of wages.

This sums it up really. He was treated the same as everyone else and this was all done by the examiner.

The club had no say in it and Tom Coughlan certainly has nothing got to do with it.

Its not nice but its part and parcel of examinership. id imagine Farrelly knows he doesnt have much of a case, hence the running to the press.
I'd agree with Mr. A's point though about the punishment.

**corkboy360** · 21/02/2009, 3:06 PM

Originally Posted by Celdrog

Why the hell should we know this stuff inside out. Do you think the examiner gave us classes on what was going on. I'm saying nothing about Gareth Farrelly. All I'm pointing out is that the FAI statement can be interpreted such that some (ex) Cork players are still owed money but the FAI accepted the schedule of payments.

Seeing as you know so much, when is Alan Matthews getting his �200k? And also tell Doolo to stop wearing Drogs gear.

The FAI might pay it

I have it from a Drogs source that they gave ye a handy bit a money don't remember them giving us much

Connor still using yer gear too hopefully the pair get lost in the wilderness somewhere