Cork City Financial Discussion

**Mr A** · 18/02/2009, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by ndrog

OUR manager Alan matthews has been hard done by and deserves what he is owed .

Good gracious, my irony detector just melted!

**wexfordned** · 18/02/2009, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by ndrog

Thats not right micls .OUR manager Alan matthews has been hard done by and deserves what he is owed .Unless of course he agrees on a settlement .

Does anyone else see the irony in this statement. Sure all your players were hard done by last season. Did they get what they deserve?

**corkboy360** · 18/02/2009, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by micls

Irrelevant. Id expect any city fan to hope the court sides with us and we dont have to pay out that money.

Originally Posted by ndrog

Thats not right micls .OUR manager Alan Matthews has been hard done by and deserves what he is owed .Unless of course he agrees on a settlement .

Exactly.No matter what the case justice should be done the man does have a family to look after.

**razor** · 18/02/2009, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by corkboy360

Hope this goes Matthews way as he had a contract and it should have been honored all this malarkey about contracts under arkaga aren't viable is a load of bull.Still cant see why Tom Coughlan sacked Matthews for Doolin

I personally hope it goes Citys way, its better for the club you see.
I can't see Coughlan not having his homework done in advance of withdrawing Mathews unsigned contract.

**Dodge** · 18/02/2009, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by ndrog

Thats not right micls .OUR manager Alan matthews has been hard done by and deserves what he is owed .Unless of course he agrees on a settlement .

And people try to say I'm too sarcastic?!

**tiktok** · 18/02/2009, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by corkboy360

Its not but Tom Coughlan being a businessman should of had th cop on not too sack someone with a 3 year contract with 2 remaining.

I don't remember Tom Coughlan sacking anyone.

I remember the club withdrawing an agreed contract after the other party refused to sign it.
Furthermore, Alan Mathews took a two year sabbatical from the bank when he signed with City so at best he had a two year contract with an option to renew, I'd guess that both parties would have had to agree to that extension.

I hope Alan Mathews gets what he deserves to by the way.

**Longfordian** · 18/02/2009, 11:39 AM

From what I've heard the conversation went something like "Get your jackeen arse back to Dublin" (that's what Mathews alleges are the exact words TC used). "Does that mean I'm sacked?" "Take it whatever way you want" "You can't do that, I've got a contract" "We'll see about that." Now obviously that's his version but it'll be interesting to see what way it goes. Employment law is weighted in favour of the employee.

**tiktok** · 18/02/2009, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

From what I've heard the conversation went something like "Get your jackeen arse back to Dublin" (that's what Mathews alleges are the exact words TC used). "Does that mean I'm sacked?" "Take it whatever way you want" "You can't do that, I've got a contract" "We'll see about that." Now obviously that's his version but it'll be interesting to see what way it goes. Employment law is weighted in favour of the employee.

Did Alan Mathews tell you about his extra requests, the apartment, the car and what he did with the car keys while he was bad mouthing everyone at Cork City?

It's no surprise to me that Mathews is spreading rumours about Cork City all over Longford and Drogheda, I've come to learn that it's his preferred mode of operation.

We'll see what fraction of the rumoured €300k he'll end up with, there are two sides to every story and somewhere in between is the truth.

**gufct** · 18/02/2009, 12:38 PM

I know alan matthews personally and that is the biggest load of tosh ive ever read.If he was that type of person he would have walked when the **** hit the fan last season.

Your chairman is living in dreamworld and if I were a CCFC Supporter id be very worried as to the future of your club.

**Longfordian** · 18/02/2009, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

Did Alan Mathews tell you about his extra requests, the apartment, the car and what he did with the car keys while he was bad mouthing everyone at Cork City?

It's no surprise to me that Mathews is spreading rumours about Cork City all over Longford and Drogheda, I've come to learn that it's his preferred mode of operation.

We'll see what fraction of the rumoured �300k he'll end up with, there are two sides to every story and somewhere in between is the truth.

I didn't say that was the whole truth, I just said that was his side of it. Indeed I say that in my original post. I'm genuinely interested from a legal point of view to see what happens.

**tiktok** · 18/02/2009, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

I know alan matthews personally and that is the biggest load of tosh ive ever read.If he was that type of person he would have walked when the **** hit the fan last season.

Your chairman is living in dreamworld and if I were a CCFC Supporter id be very worried as to the future of your club.

I don't give a **** who you know personally [though it does explain your obsession with CCFC].

Why would he walk away from well over €100k p.a. when he knew [as a financial advisor and member of the FMAI would, and from his frequent conversations with Tom Coughlan during Examinership] that an investor was coming in and he'd end up getting all his back pay and his €50k bonus for a Setanta Cup win, you're the one spouting 'tosh'?

I've witnessed his antics first hand, I've heard his petty digs in the media, I've heard his claims he'd make sure we didn't get a licence until he got his money [when he was still our manager] and I've heard just as much anecdotal evidence to confirm my opinion as the anecdotal 'evidence' you've heard [it seems from the rumour monger himself] that's made your mind up about the CCFC chairman.

I'm not having the woll pulled over my eyes about Tom Coughlan, I'm well aware of his faults and his limitations.
I'm always concerned about the future of CCFC, in fact of the league as a whole.

**Dodge** · 18/02/2009, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

I know alan matthews personally and that is the biggest load of tosh ive ever read.If he was that type of person he would have walked when the **** hit the fan last season

Very good point. Whatever about Matthews' relationship with the current owner, he had plenty of oppurtunities to walk last year and decided to stick at it and work hard for Cork.

**pineapple stu** · 18/02/2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

Your chairman is living in dreamworld and if I were a CCFC Supporter id be very worried as to the future of your club.

Funny, as a GUFC supporter this time last year, when your chairman was living in dreamworld with talks of ful-time football and E20 tickets, you weren't worried at all. In fact, you actively ran with the bull and slagged anyone who dared question it. Any chance you can at least be consistent?

**ndrog** · 18/02/2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by wexfordned

Does anyone else see the irony in this statement. Sure all your players were hard done by last season. Did they get what they deserve?

eh ... sense of humour bypass there sham

**Dodge** · 18/02/2009, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Funny, as a GUFC supporter this time last year, when your chairman was living in dreamworld with talks of ful-time football and E20 tickets, you weren't worried at all. In fact, you actively ran with the bull and slagged anyone who dared question it. Any chance you can at least be consistent?

In fairness, very early into last season (maybe even the year before) gufct came out pretty strongly against some of the measures implemented by his club's board

**osarusan** · 18/02/2009, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

Good gracious, my irony detector just melted!

One Red Army has a spare one.

**tiktok** · 18/02/2009, 1:03 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

I didn't say that was the whole truth, I just said that was his side of it. Indeed I say that in my original post. I'm genuinely interested from a legal point of view to see what happens.

Yes. You did say that, I apologise, the red mist descended after line two of your post.

**gufct** · 18/02/2009, 1:18 PM

I am not rumour mongering maybe you should get onto all the national newspapers and John Delaney if its not true.

**gufct** · 18/02/2009, 1:24 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

In fairness, very early into last season (maybe even the year before) gufct came out pretty strongly against some of the measures implemented by his club's board

Thanks dodge and the price of the Tickets was actually �25 and Season Tickets at �250 which myself and the GUST representatives fought tooth and nail but we were overuled by the majority who like the rest of the country believed the Celtic Tiger was still flying high.

The prices were reduced to �15 and this seasons tickets are �199 as well as our playing budget being slashed by 50%.

**tiktok** · 18/02/2009, 1:25 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

I am not rumour mongering maybe you should get onto all the national newspapers and John Delaney if its not true.

I never said you were, you're just acting as the messanger boy for the rumour monger.

If what's not true? What Longfordian claims Mathews said? I'll be sure to get onto all the national newspapers and the FAI to tell them that a few of Alan Mathews buddies are spreading rumours about CCFC on an anonymous internet forum, I'd say that's well up their list of priorities right now, ffs!