Licences for 2009

**Sam_Heggy** · 16/02/2009, 2:21 PM

Originally Posted by Beezer

Originally Posted by don ramo

no togetherness down here, its a disgrace, i arranged a meetin for fundraising ideas on this and other forums, and 3 people tuned up, says it all really

were either gonna come back stronger, our just flicker out of existence,

we have some new blood entering the board and commitee this year, proactive people so hopefully thing will change for the better,

How many members did you inform of this meetin DR.I certainly got no notification of such meeting.
As for new blood coming onto the committee,from what I hear the people going forward are worse than the crowd there last year,most of them will be yes men for the chairman

Jeez man, do you have to come into every thread to have a go?

This is a prime example of the split down in Cobh, no need for petit point scoring.

Im really sorry to hear of Cobhs failure to get a First division licence, Ive had some great nights down there with some of the nicest fans going. They have a lovely club bar where Ive staggered out of on plenty of occasions.

Hopefully back up next season, a real loss to the league imo.

**OneRedArmy** · 16/02/2009, 2:39 PM

No surprise that it looks like a pragmatic decision was taken to assess compliance liberally and award nearly all clubs licenses.

But make no mistake, last seasons situation where the majority of clubs were in trouble of some sort, at some stage, finally rammed the nail in the credibility of the licensing process (or at least the financial element anyway).

Until we can get through a couple of seasons without a club getting into difficulties then the process is effectively worthless.

**Dodge** · 16/02/2009, 2:50 PM

AFAIK the league (and/or licensing committee) have added increased penalties etc for any club involved in financial "irregularites"

**pineapple stu** · 16/02/2009, 2:52 PM

Is that the 40 points thing Delaney was on about?

Wonder when we'll hear of the 65% rule again? Or what will happen if clubs whose budgets have been rejected exceed the new FAI-set ones?

Interesting times. As ever in this league.

**Mr A** · 16/02/2009, 2:55 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

AFAIK the league (and/or licensing committee) have added increased penalties etc for any club involved in financial "irregularites"

So they're moving from 'slap on the wrists' to 'slap on the wrists with a stern talking to'... it wouldn't take much to increase the penalties in all fairness.

**thischarmingman** · 16/02/2009, 2:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

So they're moving from 'slap on the wrists' to 'slap on the wrists with a stern talking to'...

I believe in official terms, the process has now changed from, "Don't be at that..." to "Ah, come on now..."

**Mr A** · 16/02/2009, 3:02 PM

So questions that arise from this:

What happened with the 65% rule? Why were some clubs punished with transfer embargoes while others that seem to be clearly in breech of it were not punished?

Have the rules regarding facilities and specifically pitch sizes etc been dispensed with (while at the same time Dundalk have to wait for FIFA tests- surely even if they fail they could take the FAI to the cleaners if not let in premier)?

What exactly did Cobh fail on that was not also happening at other clubs?

**osarusan** · 16/02/2009, 3:03 PM

Originally Posted by thischarmingman

I believe in official terms, the process has now changed from, "Don't be at that..." to "Ah, come on now..."

Next year will be, "We'll come down on you like a ton of bricks"

**Longfordian** · 16/02/2009, 3:05 PM

Does writing off creditors as a result of their settlement in examinership count as income?. Might be why Cork and Drogs have seemingly gotten away with it?.

**thischarmingman** · 16/02/2009, 3:05 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

Next year will be "We'll come down on you like a ton of bricks"

Or "Steady on..!"

**WoodquayBoy** · 16/02/2009, 3:05 PM

And after that it will be 'right, last chance, stop it now will ye'

**pineapple stu** · 16/02/2009, 3:06 PM

When do we get to "Careful now" and "Down with this sort of thing"?

**thischarmingman** · 16/02/2009, 3:09 PM

There's a very funny Dara O'Briain clip from one of his standup shows that would illustrate this point perfectly but I can't seem to find it. It's the one where he talks about how the English have 'Yes' and 'No' when it comes to what you can and can't do and how the Irish have 3 areas along the lines of, 'That's grand', 'Steady now,' and 'Yer takin' the **** now.'

**don ramo** · 16/02/2009, 3:37 PM

Originally Posted by Beezer

we have some new blood entering the board and commitee this year, proactive people so hopefully thing will change for the better, How many members did you inform of this meetin DR.I certainly got no notification of such meeting.
As for new blood coming onto the committee,from what I hear the people going forward are worse than the crowd there last year,most of them will be yes men for the chairman

new blood is needed, and no piont painting them with a brush untill you know what colour you have, i bet you dont even have 5 names

as i said it was arranged in the forums both of them, and dont bother trying to pull the one i never heard cause thats ****, you have been reading these boards for months and only recently registered, the club is relegeted 2 divisions and all ye muppet can talk about is having multiple accounts ye sad *****

**bellavistaman** · 16/02/2009, 4:32 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

Cobh must be in an incredibly bad state to move from premier to A license pending further financial commitments being met!

Incredibly bad.

Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

Are Cobh the first team to be relegated a Division as a direct result of annual Licensing decisions?
.

At least we created history.

**A face** · 16/02/2009, 5:17 PM

Here is the full list of clubs and their licences

The Independent Licensing Committee of the FAI has today (February 16) awarded 15 Premier Division licences and 7 First Division licences. 3 Newstalk A Championship licenses were also awarded. The Independent Club Licensing Committee will consider applications from the four clubs that have qualified for UEFA competitions in April 2009. Athlone Town, Cobh Ramblers, Cork City, Kildare County were given licences on the basis that financial commitments they have made will be honoured within the agreed dates before the start of the 2009 season.

Read more at www.eircomloi.ie

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Prem		1st Div 	Newstalk A Championship 
Bohemian FC	Athlone Town	Cobh Ramblers
Bray Wanderers	Kildare County	Salthill Devon
Cork City	Limerick	Tullamore Town
Derry City	Longford Town	 
Drogheda United	Mervue United	 
Dundalk		Sporting Fingal	 
Finn Harps	Wexford Youths	 
Galway United	 	 
Monaghan United	 	 
Shamrock Rovers	 	 
Shelbourne	 	 
Sligo Rovers	 	 
St. Patrick's Athletic	 	 
UCD AFC	 	 
Waterford United

**peadar1987** · 16/02/2009, 5:33 PM

Does anybody know if any clubs applied and failed to get licenses? So many people were sure Mullingar, Portlaoise, Carlow, Clonmel, Castlebar, Tralee etc. were going to be in the A Championship this season

edit: Didn't see Tullamore actually did get a license, rookie mistake!

**GlasnevinRed** · 16/02/2009, 7:43 PM

Afaik back in 07 we were issued a FD licence to replace the PD one we already had or something along those lines.

**culloty82** · 16/02/2009, 9:15 PM

Originally Posted by fionnsci

What about Carlow, Castlebar and Tralee? Should they not have been awarded A Championship licenses?

As far as I know, Carlow and Tralee were instructed by the FAI and the League on how to get their licences before they were awarded places in the A Championship, so I presume they're confirmed for this year.

**srfc1928** · 16/02/2009, 9:59 PM

Originally Posted by don ramo

no togetherness down here, its a disgrace, i arranged a meetin for fundraising ideas on this and other forums, and 3 people tuned up, says it all really

were either gonna come back stronger, our just flicker out of existence,

we have some new blood entering the board and commitee this year, proactive people so hopefully thing will change for the better,

Hopefully ye come back stronger.
A club with too much tradition and history to let die.