Club or Country

[Dodge]

Originally posted by James
but city losing the league cup final to SPA kids .. still hurts, and i wasnt even at the match

Jesus, you'll be totally fücking depressed when I tell it was only the Semi final...

[James]

schit yea SPA v longford in that final also
felt like a cup final though i'll bet with all the atmosphere from the SEI

[Rebel Bhoy]

I guess the FAI realise that many people will chose club over country and are trying to create a club like atmosphere at Lansdowne with the section dedicated to eL fans. Personally I have to go with my club. As others have said on here, their club is a better representation of who you are than the national side. The Irish teams display in Switzerland left me numb. I didn't care any more because it seemed that the players didn't either. Following Celtic I can honestly say that I have never felt like that....in the post Viduka era anyway

[Dodge]

Originally posted by James
schit yea SPA v longford in that final also
felt like a cup final though i'll bet with all the atmosphere from the SEI

Yeah we always make a big effort for the U21s...

[Seanie]

Originally posted by Dodge
Club. Yeah I'd celebrate if Ireland won the world cup but I don't get depressed after each loss.

Same here

[Dodge]

Originally posted by Conor74
For me it's country before club. No big patriotic thing - I have as little interest in seeing Ireland win a rugby match as I have in seeing Munster win one.

Could be because they don't represent your area.

Everytime Pats fans sing about Inchicore my pride swells (settle down all you schoolkids...) Everytime a news report takes about celebrations in mcDowells, the same thing. I think it also helps being so close to the players. Having a drink with one of your idols definitely beats the TV stars from the national team

[Coltron]

Its country for me, if one of the drogs got the the call (any minute now) I think Id be happier watchin him play for Ireland than agianst another eL (yes, safe atlast) team. I think that if we were more successfull internationally the tide might turn.

[Dodge]

Conor, you talk too much...

Its natural for Cork City fans from Cork to have more affinity with the team than Kerry people, just like Man U fans from Manchester... In no way am I saying you're not a proper Cork fan, just that on this point of club v country, its natural tha locals have more of an emotional attachment to their local club side...

If an eL team was set up in your local Kerry town and became moderately succesful, would you start supporting them? Just wondering

[Rebel Bhoy]

Then I suppose Dodge you are getting into the whole argument about changing clubs. If the whole thing about Wimbledon going to Dublin had come to fruition, then would folk from Dublin have stopped supporting their respective eL clubs, or indeed Man Utd, Liverpool, etc because they would be a 'Dublin club'? I am not so sure they would have.
I hope not to change the focus of this discussion away from club Vs country too much but I was born are reared in North London but have always followed Celtic my reasoning is that Celtic are a club that represent (to me) the Irish diaspora of which I am a part far more than Tottenham or Arsenal ever could, even in spite of the large numbers of immigrant support that these two clubs attract.

[Robinski]

Club for me. Nothing like going to matches week in week out and supporting the team.

I love Lansdowne too but it has to be Club first.

[Dodge]

Originally posted by Rebel Bhoy
Then I suppose Dodge you are getting into the whole argument about changing clubs. If the whole thing about Wimbledon going to Dublin had come to fruition, then would folk from Dublin have stopped supporting their respective eL clubs, or indeed Man Utd, Liverpool, etc because they would be a 'Dublin club'? I am not so sure they would have.

There's no way they would have... but then thats bringing something into an area where football already exists. Not the same as in Conor's case...

[Rebel Bhoy]

I guess you are right but there is still the whol thing of changing allegiances. I'm a bit uncomfortable with that. Did you hear about the two brothers, one supported Man Utd and the other Man City. The City fan needed a bone marrow transplant and the brother was a match. he would only give it up if the city fan subscribed to MUTV and pledged allegiance to United!!

[Plastic Paddy]

Originally posted by Rebel Bhoy
I hope not to change the focus of this discussion away from club Vs country too much but I was born are reared in North London but have always followed Celtic my reasoning is that Celtic are a club that represent (to me) the Irish diaspora of which I am a part far more than Tottenham or Arsenal ever could, even in spite of the large numbers of immigrant support that these two clubs attract.

Bang on. Couldn't have put it better myself... hold on, are you me in disguise?

PP

[pete]

I think a lot of european countriers have people who travel to International games & then club supporters. Holland & to a lesser extent maybe Italy are good examples. It doesn't mean the two don't meet but people tend to be one or the other...

[Dodge]

Originally posted by Conor74
and just hope to God that the circles in which they move are sufficiently removed from the professional team you follow so that your loyalties will not be tested.

OFF TOPIC but did anyone see that Seinfeld episode where George tries to stop his "worlds colliding" Probably my favourite..

Honest answer Conor. Myself I was born within 3 minutes of Richmond Park so I had no choice.

[WeAreRovers]

Originally posted by Dodge
OFF TOPIC but did anyone see that Seinfeld episode where George tries to stop his "worlds colliding" Probably my favourite..
.

"You're killing independent George!" Classic. Although "Serenity Now!" might just be my favourite. Seinfeld - the greatest sitcom ever, no contest!

KOH

[pete]

Originally posted by WeAreRovers
"You're killing independent George!" Classic. Although "Serenity Now!" might just be my favourite. Seinfeld - the greatest sitcom ever, no contest!
KOH

Whats the episode where George tries to leave meetings on a high? Course theres alos the 2 part JFK-esque "back & to the left" episode which not seen in long time...

Check out 'curb your enthuasism' on TG4 just before midnight wednesdays if ya miss Seinfeld. Best show on tv now!

[Enda M]

it has to be the club