Can any one tell me whats happenin with the coming season what league are we in. have we our off the pitch problems sorted so we can get on with the real business of creating a team that is worthy of wearing the Claret and Blue.
[quote=Jdrams fan;1099538]Can any one tell me whats happenin with the coming season what league are we in.We are in the first division at the mo. have we our off the pitch problems sortedNo and they wont ever be- because of various muppets who only care about there own agenda so we can get on with the real business of creating a team that is worthy of wearing the Claret and Blue.We had a team worthy of the Claret and Blue but didnt know how to look after them[/quote]
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Forget what YOU want and think about the CLUB before there is none.
Originally Posted by MainManRam;1102951We had a team worthy of the Claret and Blue but didnt know how to look after them
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Didnt know how to look after them? We ****in tripled their wages, if thats not looking after them i dont know what is!!! The club ****ed up in paying them money we couldnt afford, hence the mess were in at the moment.
And how many of them are trying to look after Cobh Ramblers this year? Very few!
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If any Kiddo.
Didnt know how to look after them? We ****in tripled their wages, if thats not looking after them i dont know what is!!! The club ****ed up in paying them money we couldnt afford, hence the mess were in at the moment.
And how many of them are trying to look after Cobh Ramblers this year? Very few!
You are right Kid but the club fu^ke^ up by givin them too much last year. After Promotion I think people thought wed be there forever. I think pay last year should of been performance related with bonus for stayin up and weekly outlay reduced- then some of these players might have given a bit more than they did
CyaSun
Forget what YOU want and think about the CLUB before there is none.
How about discussing this years pay -since theres no legal budget for any?
If anything we rewarded them too greatly and that was our biggest downfall. Then as soon as the going got tough they jumped ship along with the guy who weeks previously claimed to love our club so much and wanted to continue on at colemans park, So much for loyalty.
We need to start again and slowly build our club back up, if we build a solid foundation then I am sure our club will be able to survive anythiong in the future
As I said no contracts have been signed no money was discussed with players.Didnt know how to look after them? We ****in tripled their wages, if thats not looking after them i dont know what is!!! The club ****ed up in paying them money we couldnt afford, hence the mess were in at the moment.
And how many of them are trying to look after Cobh Ramblers this year? Very few!
So will we all stop making statements without foundation and get on with what you should and that is spending time saving ur club
the sub
We are trying well some of us anyway we tried to aet up a meeting the other night for fundraising ideas abd 3 of us turned up so how the hell are three of us supposed to save the club, stop preaching we are trying our best but when you meet obstaciles at every turn it isnt easy
I couldn't make that meeting the other night as I had the flu but like I said somewhere I have an A4 sheet of ideas at home. I've also be working very hard at home over the past week speaking to people and companies regarding certain aspects of fundraising and in fact I had a meeting yesterday afternoon with one such person. Cork City's group FORAS have also been in touch with me so steady progress is being made and I will update everyone next time we meet.
I know you were ill and wasnt refering yo you b ut there is a whole lot of other members that didnt bother to turn up
I know that. To be honest I don't think many are interested in getting involved especially after the lambasting that the Sunderland guys were given for all their efforts. My own peosonal opinion there is that that's what turned most people off getting involved in running things etc etc.I know you were ill and wasnt refering to you
Not preaching but you look at the City game great way to make money now they are playing Blarney yes a MSL team if they charge 5 euro per person they will make approx 3k for the night. If you had the game you would have made 6k at least.
What p##s me off if people coming on the threard saying I herd this from this guy/girl and 9/10 not true just stirring so you divide the group which is working seen as only 3 turned up to your meeting on Sunday.
You have so called supporters that would DIE for the club where were they.
Then you get them on the thread upset because someone said something on the thread they did not like about the club.
I hope you survive and stay in 1st div because if you do not the club will not survive in A league. If you stay in the 1div you will have to pay your players atleast a minum payment, if they are working who is going to pay them if they have to leave work to travel to Sligo or far a field for a cup game or league match, who is going to pay their petrol money traveling twice a week for traning and to meet the bus in Cobh on weekends or home game.
You have to get real and live in the real world nobody is going to play for Cobh Ramblers for nothing.
Last edited by the sub; 13/02/2009 at 11:13 AM.
the sub
Not saying they are not going to be paid nothing, it has been suggested that we would pay them an amount during the half way break if we have the funds and again at the end of the season with some expenses paid during the season. We cannot pay what we dont have
"Some weeks the lady is good looking and some weeks they're not. Our performance today would have been not the best looking bird but at least we got her in the taxi". - Ian Holloway
The most sensible comment I've read here for a while!!We cannot pay what we dont have
It might be!!! but if you do not pay the people who will bring supporters through the gate, do you expect them to play for no fee just because the club messed up.
As I said who is going to pay for their lost wages also the cost of petrol going to the club every week, do expect them to loose money every week so that you can clear your debt. If someone went and played msl league they would get atleat 100 euro a week from some top clubs.
I don,t know I might be wrong and if so you have very loyal players who are prepared to loose money just to play with Cobh and that is great if that is the case.
Any way that is not the issue until you do get your 1st div licence and you know what div you will be playing next year.
If you are playing A league you can use last reserve players plus youth and under 17's. but the next question how many supportrs will pay to see A league football . Its a catch 22 .. play I div and pay players and get supporters, play A league not pay player and get no supporters and then you cannot pay your debts.
the sub
Ok lets just rob a bank and get to pay the wages that way, and it might be more honest than before. -Sub you can lead the way and I'll come in behind you to give you cover. While we are in there lets take enough cash to pay off all our creditors.
ffs -who needs to get real?
I'm in..............Ok lets just rob a bank
well stop sitting on your hands and doing nothing and I suppose you are going to blame all the in fighting which is going on.
Dont blame me I just giving it as it is how else are you going to get players to play for you.
You & Cobh need to get real its not my fault renevue and creditors are owed 500k and nothing done in the last 8 months with regards to saving Cobh Ramblers only talk about everything blaming everyone.
Dont reply to me if you are going to say something smart, just tell me what you and your supports and members are going to do to support Cobh.
I will be the first to put my hand in my pocket and support your club
the sub
The cancelling of the cork city game was down to the manager and him saying the team wasnt ready. Now correct me if im wrong but i was under the impression that preseason was for preparing
As for expenses they have been budgeted for.
Its obvious to the dog on the street that we have no money so even if we did come up with wages it would kill us as then we would have an even greater revenue bill, if we are to survive we need to go amater and reward the players in a simaler way that the gaa do
did you not read what i said about having 2 payments to the players over the course of the season, we have NO MONEY at all,creditors screaming for money aswell as the taxman and BTW talks have happened over money as the committee have said there will be a playing budget hence the cuts in the bar as the staff were told there will be a playing budget. That is a FACT not a rumour or heresay but a certified FACT
"Some weeks the lady is good looking and some weeks they're not. Our performance today would have been not the best looking bird but at least we got her in the taxi". - Ian Holloway
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