Absolutely dong2008, IMO Kenna behaved in a disgraceful manner. However I think Cook did as well, and the 'difference' is ye hve taken him back. Yes, I know Kenna didn't come back, but I would like to think he would be told where to go if he tried.
Kenna wasn't long ejecting outta GUFC when he got a sniff elsewhere. I can understand your frustration. I think I speak for the majority of Rovers fans when I say we're glad to have Paul Cook leading us for the season ahead, no matter what the circumstances.Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
Absolutely dong2008, IMO Kenna behaved in a disgraceful manner. However I think Cook did as well, and the 'difference' is ye hve taken him back. Yes, I know Kenna didn't come back, but I would like to think he would be told where to go if he tried.
"Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins."
"Homer Simpson, smiling politely."
Kenna was whoring himself around every club that had a vacancy in Ireland and England and then you took him back after it all only for him to walk out ! To my mind Cook always said he would come back if he got two extra players which does not look like it will happen. H eis back its good for the club but i have to agree with red away's post on the matter.
Press conference tonight at 8.15, Cook took training this morning.
Will the club have to renegotiate a new contract ?
Last edited by celticV3; 12/02/2009 at 1:24 PM.
I assume Cook wasn't paid during his absence too?
Life without Rovers, it makes no sense...it's a heartache...nothing but a fools game. S.R.F.C.
Must say im delighted to see the man back as i feel he is the best man for the job, but he has gone down in my opinions as a person for his childish behaviour in regards to the budget. Many managers would be very happy to manage Sligo Rovers with the lower budget (we only need to look at the Alan Matthews situation in Drogheda).
I also agree with Rovers1's earlier post that the fans have been scammed again but the fools on the board. It was simply emotional blackmail by the board saying if we dont raise the €60k that Cook wouldnt come back. I honestly believe that we have got nowhere near the €60k yet the red carpet is being rolled out tonight for Cook's return. It would also be interesting to see how much the board member's have put towards this fundraising effort as they claim to have the best wishes of the club at heart, or have they left it all to the fans again as they did during the summer.
I am happy to see Paul back, as I think we could have a memorable season ahead. Just a pity the clubs name and image had to be dragged through the dirt to do it.
And as I said, he behaved terribly. He was entitled to have a sniff around as he was not under contract, but I do agree he dragged it out too much. Anyway, Cook is back and ye will only be the better for it
"Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins."
"Homer Simpson, smiling politely."
Perhaps they thought it was better that Cook returned rather than employing someone else because we all know what a good manager he is? And because as you said he is the best man for the job.
What a scam....Emotional blackmail, nobody was forced to give money. A lot didn't. The fans were behind the fundraising at the end of the day.
It would have been a lot easier to let Cook go, release a few players that earn big money, bring it an average manager and average players.
Ok, so it doesn't make us look the most professional club in the world, but we're in a better position that we were this time two weeks ago.
All you ever reas on this forum is people moaning.
Last edited by Rory H; 12/02/2009 at 3:26 PM.
Very interesting!
Personally I always thought we blew Cook out of all proportions. Good manager= yes, gets best out of his players, but, there are more talented managers out there in Ireland who would have fit the job.
For me, he must have to prove himself all over to me. Lost alot of respect for him.
Cheeky fecker went off for a couple of weeks seen nobody was racing after him so he decides to go back to the muppets who will pay his wage for another year.
As avvenalaf said, this will all end badly with us looking for the boards head. However its way to early to be saying this and we'll all bask in this for a while but the main problems remain rotted in our club and until they are gone we will win nothing.
that's brilliant that he is back!
does anybody know where the press conference is taking place
But what are these "problems" that are so rooted and so different to any other League of Ireland club?
It's not like any of the other clubs have some Martin Edwards type svengali figure running the show for them.
Can we not just get on with it now? We did enough whingeing and finger pointing when he left ( and I include myself in that! )
its at 8.15 in the clarion.
Just to clarify a few points Rafa Benitez Style :
celticV3 Yes the Club will have to draw up a new contract for Cook as the last one in effect became reduntant when he resigned.
sligoman - No, Cook was not paid during his absence as he had resigned his position.
the silverfox - Alan Matthews is running a Part Time Drogheda side, we are trying to hold a squad of 12-14 pros with some part time players. You are not comparing like with like. Also I am not aware of any other position being offered to Matthews after all he was looking for a job to keep in employment.
Inside Man- You say that there are More talented managers in Ireland for the Rovers job - name them please!!
Inside man re "nobody was racing after him" comment - Cook turned down three offers from other clubs two in Ireland and one from England. All for better Money than at Rovers - that's loyalty for ye lads.
As Rory H commented the board could have given up on Paul got in an average manager and go back to an all part time squad. Jump forward a few months we are struggling in the League, bottom in Setanta Cup and humiliated in Europe, crowds down considerably....then the same lads would then be complaining why didn't the board fight to keep Paul and the Full Time set up.
As the saying goes damned if you do damned if you dont.
Last edited by Guts&Glory; 12/02/2009 at 5:34 PM.
I didnt say we were scammed as such but i know what you mean. And if the board attempted to 'scam' us then really it looks like it worked, we got Cooky back!
I delighted Paul is back.I know that it looks like Cook went off in a sulk for not getting his way.But I don't think that thats what it was like at all.We all like Cookie for his honesty in defeat and in success be if we played well or not! He always called a " A spade A spade" ,was always honest in his opinion. To me he was the same old Cookie. He had his team in place to "compete" and with the budget needed to have a playing squad of 16 could not be reach an option of selling Boco was given to him which he said as manager he himself could not in all honesty could not do that. So he resigned to allow the next man the option to make this decision. I think "Paul Cook" was just been " Paul Cook" been straigth and Honest and Hard Hitting.
Avvelaf if it all ends in tears aleast we tried and wont have lost anything really as Im sure the same hardwork by the few would have had to be put in to have given the next man a side that could compete.
Till d End!
WHO?
And would they have been willing to work of the same budget that "Cook" was meant too!
Ya! I wondered if this was a scam to get people to raise money but on the morning he resigned met him in " The Southern" talking to Boco explaining the situation.If it was a Hoax it was a very well worked out one but I don't think it was.
The only I didn't like was the MC getting involved in the fund raisers as I think it was this move that has made people think that the whole thing was a sham!
Till d End!
Hold on a second Cook was spot on, the only way he could get some extra money to face the programme that Rovers have ahead was to put some pressure on the MC. This is exactly what we wanted him to do, its called tactics and at the end of the day we want him to have a reasonable squad to face a very important season. The MC have a job to do also and I think the ending has being a good result. Only sour taste is the pittance we got from Everton for Seamus especially as we see more of how much they have paid elsewhere for new signings. At Croke Park last night we watched a right full who is playing Championship football at he was so bad, so dont rule out the chance of seeing our boy in the right full position within a couple of years.
Great to see he's back. Hopefully its very positive at press conference. Hopefully Owen Morrison and Stephen Parkhouse will finally be confirmed by the club at it.
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A little maths can be very useful sometimes. This year's agreed budget includes 60k for Seamie. Our great leader said he needed another 60k to bring in two more players. Ok?. Lets just suppose that this money was raised. Next year, OGL says he wants to hold onto this squad. Then the additional amount to be raised, at start of nest season, is 120k.
There is little doubt but that the 60k required now won't be raised. I'd say 20k max. So, on what grounds has he returned? What have the MC agreed with him that the supporters haven't been told about and won't be told about until there is a panic mid season with regard to finance.
I see a bad moon risin'.
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