Foot.ie Music Exchange 2009

[Lionel Ritchie]

Hope ye don't mind my sticking a tuppence worth in on my own as well. Hope they all made it. For some reason the last few seconds were clipped off the final tune on 1 or 2 of them.

Lonnie Donnegan –Tom Dooley (1958)
Johnny Cash – The Mercy Seat (2000)
The Hitchers – Liver (1997)

Have to confess a selfish interest here. Was in The Hitchers and we used those first two as our intro tunes. Yeah ...two intro tunes! Up our own holes or what? Just carrying on a little tradition with Tom Dooley as I started LionelVol1 with a Lonnie Donnegan tune as well. The Mercy Seat might’ve been written for Johnny Cash he does it that well.

Dropkick Murphys – Rocky Road to Dublin (2001)
It’s a bit begorrah but still crackin.

Jinx Lennon – City of Styrofoam Cups (2007)
Probably the finest Irish writer of his generation. From the LP Know Your Station Gouger Nation.

Tooth – Perfect Teeth (1999)
Windings – Surrounded (2005)
...bit of rock’n’roll family trees here. After Tooth called it a day Steven Ryan (guitar/vocals) went on to form Giveamanakick (who’s Hatch 77 was on my previous compilation. Mark O’Connor (bass/vocals) who’s Float On was also on Lionels Vol1 was also in Tooth and, as well as his own stuff, he has gone on to engineer pretty much everything remarkable in Limrock over the last decade) . Meanwhile Steven Ryan has also released an album as Windings and frequently performs Windings material ably assisted by yet another Tooth member Liam Marley.
The Shanks – Babbling (1998)
Rulers of the Planet – Phone No. (2005)
...This week on Rock Family trees –The Shanks –this is an unfinished mix of Babbling (or Babbling Brook as I always knew it) by the pride of Kanturk, Co. Cork. They released an album on their own, ‘The Prawn Lawn’, in the mid 90’s before recording ‘Brang,’ from which this tune is lifted, for Murgatroid -the same label The Hitchers were on, in 97-98. After The Shanks the band members re-emerged in Rulers of the Planet (Mick and Niall), and Stanley Super 800 (Stan)

Cooper – Hanging on the Telephone (1996)
Top drawer cover by Dutch punks Cooper.
Zwan – Lyric (2003) I thought this tune was easily as good as most of The Smashing Pumpkins stuff and it’s a pity Corgan couldn’t hold the whole show together .

Spinal Tap – Tonight I’m Gonna Rock You (1984)
Had to go with this one after a cup final replay between it and ‘Sex Farm’. Never mind lyrically dubious stuff like the Police’ Dont Stand So Close or ABBAs Does Your Mother Know ...this puts it up to Gary Glitter .
“Your Sweet, but you’re just four feet, and you still got your babyteeth. You’re too young and I’m too well hung , but tonight I’m gonna rock you!”
Half Man Half Biscuit – The Referees Alphabet (2000) The Y is for Yate –the kind of town referees come from.

Fat Boy Slim – The Rockafeller Skank (1998)
Cornershop –Brimful of Asha (FBS Extended Remix) (1998)
Wildchild – Renegade Master (FBS Remix)(1998)
DJ Shadow Vs Metallica –Number Song feat Orion (Lionel Ritchie Blackguard Mash) (2009)
Ah Fatboy you genius. The magic of FBS lay in his ability to let no-hoper indie DJs (I was that soldier) break out of the constraints of playing Blur, Oasis etc... by creating a range of off-the-shelf mixes all of which had the same bpm and all of which had a drumless noisy bit three quarters of the way in where you could just fade up the next one –thus enabling beatless morons hold a headphone can up to one ear with their shoulder while punching the air with their free arm and urging the crowd to come AAAAAwwwwnn!! . All the while doing fatboys plugging for him. The sample of Metallica/Cliff Burtons intro to Orion wasn’t credited on the notes of Entroducing though it’s credited on the wiki. I just mixed a wee bit more in at each end. Crackin record all round.

The 7”s
Tuesday Blue – Tunnel Vision (1986) released on U2s Mother label and re-released by EMI three years later.
The Soupdragons – Hang Ten (1986) long before they sold their souls to floppy madchester ****ness like I’m Free –The Soup Dragons made very, very fine singles like Hang Ten which reached 102 in the charts late in 86. Tired of only reaching 102 and being patronised as a 2nd division Housemartins they sold their souls to floppy madchester ****ness like I’m Free.
Andy White – Here Come The Girls (1988) ...sound a bit familiar in places? I thought so too. Not the first time the Belfast bard had the arse ripped out of one of his songs by a pop act either. Have a listen to ‘Na Na Na Na’ next to Westlifes World of Our Own.
Fuzzbox – Love Is The Slug (1987) I shoplifted this from Golden Discs (no wonder they’re going to the wall) in early 1987. Don’t try and smuggle 7”s out of shops in your arse-crack –it’s extremely dangerous.
Klinkhamer – It Doarp (1990) If you can’t make out what he’s singing it’s probably because he’s singing in Fresian. Klinkhamer were a ska-punk band from Leeuwarden in the northern Netherlands.
Andy Stewart – Donald Where’s Your Troosers? (1957)
...if you can find a better Elvis impersonator –you hire him! My son loves this and listens to it at bedtime.

[stann]

Absolutely loved it, Lionel, you've gone and raised the bar another few notches with this one.
Mixed, and your own mash-up!
What did you use for the mixing and to burn it properly can I ask?

To the tunes, well quicker to say the Dropkick Murphys was maybe a bit meh for me, but I loved everything else.

Especially loved:
Johnny Cash – The Mercy Seat Agree with the above, this and Hurt are two covers at least that he was made to sing
The Hitchers – Liver Heard of them through here, not heard the song though. Simply brilliant line that, "she broke my heart, so I ate her liver"
Jinx Lennon – City of Styrofoam Cups Just love this song, really must get myself that album
The Shanks – Babbling Also new to me, this one, and another band to check out
Spinal Tap – Tonight I’m Gonna Rock You Haha, class inclusion!
Big Beat Interlude Great inclusion too, love anything Big Beat, and am a huge fan of Mr Cook's work, no matter how LCD he's supposed to be. Chap has the midas touch - that Cornershop remix is phenomenal. Nifty bit of mixing by yourself there too!
DJ Shadow Vs Metallica – Number Song feat Orion (Lionel Ritchie Blackguard Mash) That's quite impressive! Anything with Shadow in it gets my vote, but with your own mash you've gone and done it now...
Tuesday Blue – Tunnel Vision Blast from the past this one. Knew the chorus still though, belting it out word perfect in the car
The Soupdragons – Hang Ten Loved that era Soup Dragons, the singles at least. Soft As Your Face was another cracker I remember from around the same time, before they went faux baggy.
Fuzzbox – Love Is The Slug Man, had not heard this in ages either. Another band I loved at the time, a somewhat guilty pleasure maybe.
Andy Stewart – Donald Where’s Your Troosers? Have to love this song, never heard the Elvis bit though, it's quite uncanny!

[Lionel Ritchie]

Absolutely loved it, Lionel, you've gone and raised the bar another few notches with this one.
Mixed, and your own mash-up!
What did you use for the mixing and to burn it properly can I ask?

Mixed the FBS/DJShadow/Metallica stuff in Adobe Audition (formerly Cool Edit Pro) which is actually more of a multi-track studio than a fruityloops or even Cubase type sequencer.

Burned with Nero -there's a setting in there where you can change the duration of the gap between songs, which is 2 secs by default, or remove it altogether. There's an overlap/crossfade function in there as well but truthfully I don't think it's great. It's too long and automatically fades out the ending track and fades up the new track which isn't what you'd be after mixing dance stuff certainly.

Spinal Tap – Tonight I’m Gonna Rock You Haha, class inclusion!

Yep ...I actually have Smell The Glove. What a title! They should've gone with the original artwork mind. They'd get into less grief over that today than this little ode to underage groupies. They're playing Wembley Arena on June 30th!

DJ Shadow Vs Metallica – Number Song feat Orion (Lionel Ritchie Blackguard Mash) That's quite impressive! Anything with Shadow in it gets my vote, but with your own mash you've gone and done it now...

Didn't actually do a lot with it beyond sticking the intro to Orion at the start and a stretching a sample to fit over the all drums outro. I remember at the time Entroducing was released it was boasted the record contained no new performances and was an "audio-collage" of samples form old records which was why I found it curious that Orion wasn't creditied ...he just mightn't have gotten clearance to use it at that point which makes releasing it at all very, very risky if Metallica/Cliff Burton Estate had decided to play silly buggers.

I remember telling mates of mine "that's Orion by Metallica" and some of them saying "nah ...I'm not hearing it". One bass-player buddy of mine did point out that anyone who buys Bassist-Monthly type magazines could get the settings and gear needed to create the exact sound Burton got. But that doesn't sit well with DJ Shadows no-new-performances boast. Either way the sample's since been acknowledged.

Fuzzbox – Love Is The Slug Man, had not heard this in ages either. Another band I loved at the time, a somewhat guilty pleasure maybe!

Fuzzbox or to give them their full moniker We've Got A Fuzzbox And We're Gonna Use It were a great band even if a bit one dimensional -before some clown decided to "produce" them while they were still young and suggestable enough to partake in muck like Pink Sunshine in 1989. I have that album on cassette somewhere, got it in a bargain bin for a punt, and it is the most tragic piece of claptrap imaginable when one considers that three years earlier these girls were coming up with stuff like this and 'Rules and Regulations'.

Andy Stewart – Donald Where’s Your Troosers? Have to love this song, never heard the Elvis bit though, it's quite uncanny!

It's savage. ...got the year wrong on this -just being picky -it's from 1961.

[stann]

Mixed the FBS/DJShadow/Metallica stuff in Adobe Audition (formerly Cool Edit Pro) which is actually more of a multi-track studio than a fruityloops or even Cubase type sequencer.

Burned with Nero -there's a setting in there where you can change the duration of the gap between songs, which is 2 secs by default, or remove it altogether.

Ah right, that's a commercial bit of gear isn't it? What's your recommendation on it, is it worth it for the part-time noodler who may or may not be a little bit simple? Would be too big a job for something like Audacity I guess.
What about Nero? Though no doubt there's no shortage of freeware burning software that will let you put zero gaps in too.
And at risk of hijacking the thread, one more thing , for those mixed tunes, did you set the CD track start points in Nero too, or in Audition?


You going over to see Spinal Tap?

[Lionel Ritchie]

Ah right, that's a commercial bit of gear isn't it? What's your recommendation on it, is it worth it for the part-time noodler who may or may not be a little bit simple? Would be too big a job for something like Audacity I guess.

I've only audacity a couple of times but found it a little cumbersome and clanky. But you probably could do a similar job with it. Adobe Audition is a better piece of gear in my opinion. It's quite easy to use even for someone inexperienced with it. Though you can use it for high end stuff as well. I'm recording an album at the moment and I'll probably end up partially or fully mixing it with Audition and I'll definitely master it with it.

What about Nero? Though no doubt there's no shortage of freeware burning software that will let you put zero gaps in too.

I'd say any of the burner software out there should have that function. I have Roxios Easy CD Creator as well on my old PC so I'll check.

And at risk of hijacking the thread, one more thing , for those mixed tunes, did you set the CD track start points in Nero too, or in Audition?

Did it in Audition. Imported the tunes put them into a session to create a single audio file and then broke it up again when I'd them overlapping as desired. See jpeg below...



probably can't see the text but track 2 is Rockafeller Skank, track 3 is Cornershop and 4 is renegade master. The green line running along the top of each track but which plunges downward during rockafeller skank is what's called a volume envelope. you can push and pull that line all over the place to make the volume rise and fall. Here I'm just using it for a simple enough fade out. You can see another line -blue this time -running through the middle of each track. That's the pan envelope and you can push a track to either side of the mix as frequently as you like with that. As you can see I left it dead center all the way.

So when I was happy with how the tracks overlap -I created a mixdown -which is in the "edit" dropdown menu and you can see the 2 vertical pale lines where I split the mixdown in to three seperate files again.

[stann]

Ah very good, cheers Lionel, looks and sounds kinda similar to Audacity, superficially at least. And enough for me not to be put off by it! You'd recommend a purchase so?
How does it handle speed tweaking and beatmatching type stuff? Didn't arise with the FBS stuff I know.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Ah very good, cheers Lionel, looks and sounds kinda similar to Audacity, superficially at least. And enough for me not to be put off by it! You'd recommend a purchase so?
How does it handle speed tweaking and beatmatching type stuff? Didn't arise with the FBS stuff I know.

It's fine. I'd to get the exact time of a drum loop in the dj shadow tune and stretch the metallica riff to match and it did it fine. For that matter I'd to tweak the key of the metallica riff as well as DJS had raised it a little under a semitone for number song. It'll let you do all that. It has find beats/snap to beats/loop to beats functions as well though honestly I don't use them much.

It is similar to audacity. Audacity remended me a lot of wave studio which I got on my first PC. I think the version I have somewhere might be very basic just.

[kingdom hoop]

Buachaillí, I am about to concoct the next sonic smorgasbord for your respective auditory amazements. So you should have another treat finding its way to you some day next week (probably later in the week). I suspect the only mixing will be of genre, but let that not disappoint you, for this will be special. Well, we'll see. I think I'll set a guiding selection-philosophy of something kinda global with a fairly laid-back, cheerful vibe - as that's generally what I listen to and it should fit in with the summer season. So expect something, let's say "exultantly chilled" (if that isn't too oxymoronic). Ok, less typing, more thinking, 'whhhay I go.

[kingdom hoop]

Bloody forgot to buy CDs the past two days (hopefully I'll manage the onerous task today), so 'twill probably be next week by the time Pat gets them to you. You can continue to enjoy Lionel's for now.

The setlist is practically settled - the infeasibly unappeasable collator almost satisfied. I think I've managed to largely stick to my brief, it has a slightly different feel to all the other offerings that each had slightly different feels, so hopefully such continuing variation is welcomed.

[jebus]

Brought your CD over to New York with me Lionel and these Americans sure like their Lionel Ritchie mixes

Great CD again that raises the bar yet again. Now if only we could persuade the Hitchers to reform

Can't wait for Kingdom Hoop's CD now, I have to hold my hand's up and say that I enjoy this Kerry degenerate's mixes the best

[kingdom hoop]

Can't wait for Kingdom Hoop's CD now, I have to hold my hand's up and say that I enjoy this Kerry degenerate's mixes the best

And in honour of the honour you hold me in I decided I had to somehow work "degenerate" into the title, so now the CD is named....... Sunny Soul for Degenerate Moles. The idea there being that moles don't get that awful much sun at all and might be kinda introverted and not much fun, so they may tend to lapse towards degeneration, so to try to cheer them up a bit and help them morph into more exuberant, dancing creatures I created a little playlist with a bright and airy disposition.

Well anyway, I sent those off yesterday evening so they should arrive on Wednesday. I admit to cheating slightly by including the best song ever. And also arguably the best imagery ever in a song. Unfortunately I didn't manage to print off a tracklisting with the CDs - I'll just put that up in the next post. So if you want to leave everything as a surprise, look away now.

Happy listening.

[kingdom hoop]

I'm gonna include the year of release like most people and also the place / country of origin.


1. Fred Falke - 8.08pm @ The Beach (France, 2008)
2. King Sunny Ade - Mai Jaiye Oni (Nigeria, 1982)
3. The Rollers - Knockin' At The Wrong Door (Florida, early '70s)
4. Marius Cultier - Missie Sirop (Martinique, Caribbean, 1975)
5. John Holt - Beach Party (Jamaica, 1983)
6. Mikey Dread - Roots and Culture (Jamaica, 1982)
7. Orlando Julius - Mapami (Nigeria, 1966)
8. Copa 7 - No Samba (Rio, early '70s)
9. Caetano Veloso - Coracão Vagabundo (Brazil, 1967)
10. Nitin Sawhney - October Daze feat. Tina Grace (London, 2008)
11. Rhythm Quest - Closer To All Your Dreams (Birmingham, 1992)
12. Rhythim is Rhythim - Strings of Life (Detroit, 1987)
13. Alan Braxe - Penthouse Serenade (France, 2002)
14. The LK - Tamagotchi Freestyle (Malmo, 2008)
15. Royksopp - The Girl And The Robot (Norway, 2009)
16. Freeland - Morning Sun (Brighton, 2009)
17. Etienne de Crécy - F.uck (fullstop incorrectly inserted for purpose of avoiding censor) (Paris, 2006)
18. Saint Maarten's The Rolling Tones - It's A Feeling (Saint Maarten, Caribbean, 1970s)

[jebus]

Haven't heard most of those, will be a welcome surprise when I get home I feel

Incidentally which of those do you regard as the greatest song ever?

Also as an FAO Sligobrewer, are you good to join in at the moment or shall I jump ahead of you in the queue?

[kingdom hoop]

Incidentally which of those do you regard as the greatest song ever?

At that moment in time I was thinking Track 12, Strings of Life.
Though I didn't really apply any scientific/systematic means of judging how to award the title or anything (my comment was more tongue-in-cheek to be honest) so of course at another moment I could think something else, but anyway, that one would definitely be therethereabouts for me. Would you hold it in similarly lofty regard? Or does classifying songs in such a way take away from the pure enjoyment of a track, distracting from what is truly important, and therefore we should stop this discourse immediately and just get back to digging the groove?

[jebus]

It would hold a high place on my list but it's no Archie Band's Sugar Sugar

[Lionel Ritchie]

It would hold a high place on my list but it's no Archie Band's Sugar Sugar

I was gonna stick The Archies theme tune Get On The Line on my one.

Back in my teens I used get up at 6am, to study for my leaving so the story went, but in fact to watch The Archies on the DJ Kat show.



Haven't got your CD yet KH. Looks interesting and virtually all new to me.

[monzo]

Apart from Roysopp I didn't know any of those artists beforehand. Great, ebullient mix though. I particularly enjoyed the Fred Falke opener (perfection in a song), Knocking At The Wrong Door and the closer.

I'll have a listen to Lionel's mix tomorrow before sorting out my own batch of tunes.

[jebus]

Really liking the two mixes that were waiting for me when I got lads, both solid mix CDs with my highlights being

On Lionels: The Hitchers, Zwan and Spinal Tap

On Hoop's: King Sunny Ade, Fred Falke and Etienne De Cercy

I'll be back with more thoughts as I listen to them more I'm sure

Will I go next week so?

[monzo]

I have my selections finalised - just need to burn the discs and get them posted. I'll have that done for Friday so the provisionally-titled Monzo's Mix (thank goodness for alliteration) should enter your respective postboxes by Monday or Tuesday.

Had another listen to kingdom hoop's and lionel's mix so will post an all-encompassing review sometime later.

[jebus]

Got the CD in the post today Monzo, had to rush out so haven't listened to it yet but I noticed a cover of my favourite Leonard Cohen song by one of my favourite bands, the Lemonheads, that caught my interest straight away