Anyone thinking of leaving the country in the current climate?

**mypost** · 04/02/2009, 5:21 PM

Have considered it, but the grass isn't necessarily greener elsewhere. Everywhere is going through the recession, and they're having the same job issues as here.

**KevB76** · 04/02/2009, 5:56 PM

Im here to stay, for better or worse

Already spent 9 years in England. I was happy out over there but decided to come home for a few months after I got made redundant. Then got a job here and stayed.

It was harder to adjust to coming home than it was to adjust to living in the UK, but now that I've settled here again I have no real desire to move abroad again.

My Dad wanted to move to Australia back in the eighties, but my Mam talked him out of it. I'll never know how things might have turned out if we had moved but I'm content with the way things panned out anyways.

**Dodge** · 04/02/2009, 6:30 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

I'm 28 and 2 days Den Perry

My preference is to live in Spain, preferably Barcelona as I know people who have moved out there in the past year and absolutely love it, their only regret being that they didn't make the move sooner

Spain's unemployment rate heading towards 15%. Barcelona attracts migrants from all over Spain, never mind the rest of the world so work isn't easy to come by.

**Newryrep** · 04/02/2009, 6:37 PM

It may be blindingly obvious but if you are heading anywhere make sure you can speak the lingo, it will greatly affect you chances of success - obviously not an issue for US, UK, Etc .

Might try and learn a language myself

**irishultra** · 04/02/2009, 7:00 PM

Originally Posted by Newryrep

It may be blindingly obvious but if you are heading anywhere make sure you can speak the lingo, it will greatly affect you chances of success - obviously not an issue for US, UK, Etc .

Might try and learn a language myself

german tbh. largest eu economy after all.

when emmigration/migration(i use this term for europe) will happen is when other countries have recovered and us like spain are left lagging behind.

**pete** · 04/02/2009, 8:05 PM

Originally Posted by Newryrep

It may be blindingly obvious but if you are heading anywhere make sure you can speak the lingo, it will greatly affect you chances of success - obviously not an issue for US, UK, Etc .

Depends where you come from in Ireland

I heard Oz still has a property bubble & has not burst yet?

**superfrank** · 04/02/2009, 8:27 PM

No, it hasn't burst yet.

But...

My step-dad (an Aussie) was saying that the Government are handing out $950 to every person to keep them spending as things are beginning to turn there too.

**Noelys Guitar** · 04/02/2009, 8:31 PM

Originally Posted by pete

Depends where you come from in Ireland

I heard Oz still has a property bubble & has not burst yet?

A letter in todays Indo from someone who has just returned from Aus.
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/le...r-1626307.html

**Pauro 76** · 04/02/2009, 8:58 PM

I'm told NZ has only felt the ripples of a tidal wave. I reckon moving to any country is a major risk right now.

**bennocelt** · 04/02/2009, 9:07 PM

Well i have moved to London for a job, but would much prefer to be in Ireland - sh it as it is (second time living in London - south-east)

I have lived in a good few countries so living in a foreign land is not a problem - but alas I now have a wife (with a good solid job in Dublin!). At least I have good holidays and can see her every 6 weeks or so - but damn ireland for been so corrupt - I am not a member of FF so that can hinder - but then again - I never ass licked for anything in life..............

**irishultra** · 04/02/2009, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by bennocelt

Well i have moved to London for a job, but would much prefer to be in Ireland - sh it as it is (second time living in London - south-east)

I have lived in a good few countries so living in a foreign land is not a problem - but alas I now have a wife (with a good solid job in Dublin!). At least I have good holidays and can see her every 6 weeks or so - but damn ireland for been so corrupt - I am not a member of FF so that can hinder - but then again - I never ass licked for anything in life..............

awww, thats cool. its good to be flexible like, with ryanair you can be in any city from stockholm to rome and get home() pretty regularly and cheaply., contrast that to somewhere like canada, my cousin just can't afford to get home with costs.

a good few of my family work in brussels and yeah they get home pretty regulary.

**thischarmingman** · 04/02/2009, 11:07 PM

Planning on moving to Japan to teach EFL with the girlfriend in September. I'm 23, she's 24 and neither of us have any real job/mortgage commitments. We started planning back last summer and still intend to go regardless of the global recession.

**irishultra** · 04/02/2009, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by thischarmingman

Planning on moving to Japan to teach EFL with the girlfriend in September. I'm 23, she's 24 and neither of us have any real job/mortgage commitments. We started planning back last summer and still intend to go regardless of the global recession.

thats class really. its pretty tough to emmigrate there tho, right?

**pete** · 04/02/2009, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

A letter in todays Indo from someone who has just returned from Aus.
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/le...r-1626307.html

Seems my yet disclaimer is already obselete.

Probably the only way to ride out a worldwide recession is take savings to South East Asia or India as can probably live very cheap for a couple of years.

**SkStu** · 05/02/2009, 1:00 AM

Originally Posted by irishultra

contrast that to somewhere like canada, my cousin just can't afford to get home with costs.
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definitely the biggest p1sser with living here (specially Sask). Min 3 flights to Dublin and can usually only get back once a year though thats probably more to do with holidays from work (only 20 days) than cost.

**NeilMcD** · 05/02/2009, 1:22 AM

There goes travelling to Ireland games so.

**endabob1** · 05/02/2009, 7:53 AM

I was among probably the last of the pre Tiger emigrants (1995), finish college/Uni on the Friday get the boat for England on the Monday.
I was lucky in that I had 2 sisters there already so was sorted for a place to stay and that initial support network. I lived in London for 7 years and really enjoyed it, I bought a place and sold it just before property went completely bonkers :-(.
Since 2002 I have spent a year in Cape Town, a year in Oz, 4 years back in the UK living in Rural England and am now 4 months back in Cape Town. I am now a fully fledged expert in Shipping companies, emigration law, visas, permanent residency etc…
My advice to anyone thinking of moving overseas is to research the hell out if it, you can’t research it enough. If you have family and/or friends somewhere it makes it 1000% easier. My wife is South African and we tried Oz as a kind of compromise, we were both tired of London and were looking for something smaller and with a slower pace of life. It’s a great country but it is (and this sounds very simplistic) very very far away, you feel it a lot if like me you’re from a big close knit family. We did a year in Melbourne but had traveled the country before and generally I have good memories, it just wasn’t right for us. That said if you are thinking of going I would advise you to speak to people who have been there and if possible people who are still there. Oz is not an easy adjustment, or it wasn’t for me.
London/UK is a much easier adjustment culturally it’s easier and thanks to Ryan Air it’s easy getting over and back, I know lads who continued to play for local teams in Ireland flying back once a week or once a fortnight.
South Africa is a different one, Cape Town is stunning and I love living here but would I do it without my wife being a local…... probably not, that said I’ve met a lot of people here who have came here as travelers and stayed.
I love travel and you get a better view of local life by living and working in it rather than just breezing through as a tourist, if you're young and don't have commitments I would whole heartedly endorse a couple of years abroad.

**shantykelly** · 05/02/2009, 8:14 AM

planning on going for at least two years when the other half finishes her course. as it stands, there really isnt anything for us here apart from family. neither of us will further our careers to any significant level, and watching megastructures on discovery is making me jealous as ****.

**osarusan** · 05/02/2009, 9:22 AM

Originally Posted by irishultra

thats class really. its pretty tough to emmigrate there tho, right?

Not if you get a job before you go there - then the company will sponsor your visa - you will be a "specialist in humanities and international services".

**thischarmingman** · 05/02/2009, 9:46 AM

Originally Posted by irishultra

thats class really. its pretty tough to emmigrate there tho, right?

Not entirely sure to be honest. The course we're doing comes with a placement but there are any number of other factors to think about. We'll just have to do our research. We're both lucky enough in that the uncertainty over where we'll go and how we'll get on out there is part of the appeal- we're quite happy to go wherever the wind blows us. If we don't get sorted in Japan, we'll try just keep travelling around and try some other country. If it sounds not particularly detailed and researched, thats because it isn't but thats what makes it so exciting.