QuoteIs that all you learnt?
sorry for my writingOriginally Posted by Redshanks
but didnt know it was an english lesson
Is that all you learnt?
Lads - todays (Thursday)Irish Times states cobh are only expected to be given an A League license
did you expect any thing less if you have not organised your club to pay your debts, or spent the months leading up to the granting of the licence in fighting you get what you deserve.
I was informed they did not want to air their dirty linen to everyone, but even the dogs in the street knew what was going on.
You cannot blame infighting, why like all other clubs in the LOI who had the same problem did you organise a new supporters group and start fundrasing to sort out the clubs finance.
Cork City, Athlone, Drogheda to name a few.
With all the meetings you had over the last 5 or so months did the commette ever think of organising funrasing nights ect or did they think if the buried their heads in the sand all would be ok.
You spent all the time on this forum making comments on each other, you blaming the FOCER'S and they blaming you and in the middle you had the Chairman saying that Cobh was not in trouble and if you play in AChampionship its a step back but next year you will be back up playing 1st Div.
Well you will have to win the A league to get back up, no one can say you have a god given right to do that.
You still have the debts to clear how is that going to happen if supporters are not going to support A LEAGUE football.
This is my two pence... as a club inc the supportors you all sat on the fence thinking someone was going to sort out the problems and now they have not.
the sub
I agree and disagree with your post.
Yes, us members and supporters should have done a lot more then what was done instead of getting caught up with all the in-fighting that was going on in the club.
But when ideas were put to the members by the chairman there was alot of opposition to them by individuals with-in the club, and this has held the club back in trying to move forward.
So maybe we are getting what we deserve for our lack of action over the last few months/years, but we will be back, bigger and stronger then ever.
what do we do now do you think? i personally think the A league would be a disaster we would still have to travel around the country but with no real income coming in to the club in terms of bums on seats.
I know the true fan will be at the games supporting the team.
I know I'll be there as often as possible, and I'll travel to as many away games as possible (better get thinking of some new excuses to get time off work for the new season)
So regardless of what division we're in this coming season let us get behind the club and support it what ever way we can.
I agree 100% but its trying to attract people to the games will be the problem, but lets be positive at least we are still open it could have been a lot worse
Marketing Marketing Marketing for both the Team and the Clubhouse. . Our current circumstance is not unrecoverable. It just needs alot of working on to return it to normal.
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Munster Senior League-The only option in my opinion.I for one will not be attending "A" league games not a hope in hell but I would relish the chance of supporting a local team against the likes of Avondale,Douglas Hall etc.Under the current crop mistakes have been made but dropping into this joke of a division would be a disaster it just wont work theres no posatives at all to be taken from it.
well were trying to get a group together in the clubhouse sunday evening, to see if we can brainstorm any good ideas for fundraising, as soon as a time is set, all will know, and all will be welcome
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
8.30pm
We are where we are so lets adjust and work hard to make a success of it going forward.
1. When Dan and John prepared the budget that was put before us a couple of meetings back, they did so based on a model designed for the 1st Division, but as accountants, they worked it on very conservative gate figures. I still feel, although those figures will be down, as we are in the A League, they wont be that far down.
2. Since many of the expected players that might have hung around for the 1st Division (wont play for no pay) it will be mainly local lads who will line out for us this year. It wont be MSL (as they will get some form of payback at end of season, as was pointed out by john at last weeks meeting) but it will for all intents and purposes be a local team. That will mean more local families and friends will come in the gate to see them play.
3. As Sniffer already mentioned, off-field fundraising and clubhouse entertainment will also need to be stepped up bigtime, and current boycotts will have to be suspended by those who claim to be 'Real' club-people.
We may not win any titles or silverware in year one of this new direction, but we will certainly make big inroads into clearing club debts, paying off creditors, saving and building credit off-field, building a team on field, and allowing our pitch and facilities to other under age teams who are in fact, the future of this club!
Who said the future looks bad?
Is there anything official on which league we are in?
Go out and support your club - they need you now more than ever.
I think this is a mature and measured approach to the situation. Building organically is the only way to go. The glory days are over, but if you continue to build on this model, you'll soon be one of the most stable teams in the country.
Licenses are to be granted on the 16th February, with Fixtures released on the 20th. That's what I was told on another thread.
We tend to believe that words enable thought. But words can also substitute for thought.
- Richard A. Posner
Are you for real... you are going backward in a club if that was the case.
At least if you stay in the A League you have a good chance of getting back in to LOI.
Its not a joke league from what I have seen, the players will have an opporunity to play against better player.
The A League was set up to ensure all senior player coming back from injury plus player on the verge of making the 1st team will get experance.
The under 20's league is a stepping stone for player just out of Youth teams to gain the experance to step up to the A league and then into the 1st team.
This is where a club will keep the best players and bring in the best player from out side the club who want to move into LOI or get spotted playing and move yo uk.
Over the last few week LOI clubs have made money,with un 20's and A League players moving to English clubs as they were spotted by scouts watching them play in higher standered leagues.
If they played AUL or MSL ,I do not think they would have been seen as scouts are not looking at these games and would be lost to the sport.
the sub
Can we wait for the official announcement before we all jump to conclusions on which league we are in. There is enough infighting without starting over something that isnt official.
Don Ramo that sounds like the most constructive thing I have seen on here in a long while well done.
Unfortuanatly I wont be able to make it but have one or two suggestions.
A 2 euro mile might be a good idea also this is just a suggestion keep the amount of money required small so that people will be more likely to give say 1 or 2 euro then give 5-10 now.
its great to hear something constructive instead of bitching i think we need to get the schools involved in some way like if some pupils in the schools who already go to the rams matches try to get their friends to buy tickets for the games and then reward them by saying for example if you sell 5 or 10 tickets to a home game you get in free yourself with a free programme. These kids are our clubs future then we could also look at some family packages which include a reseved area in the stand programmes and maybe a burger and chips from the van and a drink in the bar for the parents at halftime or at the end of the game for a certain price. Lets make colmans park an attractive place to go on friday or saturday night while not breaking the bank for people.
If were A League our matchs will be played in the afternoons!
LESS OF THE BULL NOW!
No you won't. Mervue didn't win it this year.
Why? The standard in the MSL is fairly terrible. It's just junior football under a different name to be frank.
The ball is round and has many surprises.
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