Christ they'd have to change the venue last minute if Rangers got there again.Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Rangers V Chelsea.
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Christ they'd have to change the venue last minute if Rangers got there again.
Yeah....put it in Croke Park!
Tact is for people who are not witty enough to be sarcastic
Had they aranged that in the old stadium they woulld have saved millions knocking it down
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
Croke park has absolutely no chance in hell of getting a champions league final. Even if it did remain open for soccer.
I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.
In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.
why ?
A stadium has to be classed as by UEFA to host a champions league final. Croke park isn't a registered stadium. And in any case it probaby wouldn't meet certain criteria to be classed as an elite stadium.
Its just not a football stadium and I doubt UEFA would overlook a perfectly apt venure elsewhere to vouch for Croker.
I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.
In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.
neither is any stadium with a running track around it but that didnt stop champions lge finals going to athens or istanbul recently. CP would be well able to stage such a match
They didn't have an uncovered concrete standing terrace behind their goals either.
I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.
In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.
have you not seen the seats put onto hill 16 before? they are perfectly acceptable as are fixed direct to the concrete. also, istanbul was uncovered at both ends...
http://www.stadiumguide.com/ataturkolympia.htm
Was there not some rule brought in recently enough by UEFA whereby CL finals have to played in stadia with a capacity in excess of 70k(or something around that mark). That meant there were only a few stadia in Europe capable of hosting the final - one been croker.
The issues with Croke Park hosting a CL final as I see them would be
1) Bucket seats on Hill 16. They may not be allowed.
2) Clean stadium - GAA have obligations to their corporate box and ten year ticket holders. They are guaranteed their seats for all events in Croke Park. I can't see the GAA breaking their word on these.
3) Rent - The GAA get a premium rent at the moment. UEFA will hardly agree to this. The GAA will hardly accept less. UEFA have lots of other options.
4) GAA rules still don't allow it. These are likely to be relaxed. However there is a difference between the GAA allowing a CL final in and actively wanting one.
5) It is difficult to get these finals and needs a lot of lobbying. The FAI may well decide to target an U21 finals or U17/U19 finals and showcase Lansdowne road rather than go after a CL final.
Whatever you think of Delaney he is very ambitious and a Champions League Final at Croker would give a subsequent joint bid with another country for a Euro Championships a lot of credibility.
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
Again I'll say it, the seats in Cp are NOTHING like the seats in germany.
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Please explain what the difference is that makes the seats in Croke Park Unacceptable.
THe Hill was designed to allow it be converted to all seating. When it is all seating the seats are bolted directly into the concrete.
Am I not correct in saying that the seating in the rest of the stadium is bolted directly to concrete?
Please tell me what the difference is?
Are the seats in Dortmund not bolted to the concrete? If not how are they made secure? Are they more luxurious, maybe padded or something?
To me a seat is a seat as long as it is wide enough to sit on.
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
Could someone please tell me how bolting the seats into the concrete on the hill works. Are the metal railings in the way or is the seating raised above the rails or what.
I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.
In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.
crush barriers are removed. if the hill 16 seats are allowed for a qualifier, as they are, then would be allowed for champions lge final
We have a derogation due to the rebuilding of Lansdowne or should that be the Aviva stadium.
In the absence of anybody else explaining it. I was on the terrace in Dortmind during the 2006 WC with the seats in place. They appeared to be individual seats bolted in to the concrete. I could be wrong on this but that is what I recall.
I haven't been in the bucket seats at Croke Park. However I think they appear to be a full structure eg new aisles etc. My understanding is that this is what is not allowed without permission. I have been in the bucket seats in Lansdowne and the RDS and they are totally different to Dortmund. These certainly wouldn't be allowed.
i have been in the hill 16 seats for a rugby match and they are as good as the permanent seats in any other part of the ground. id say they are exactly the kind of seating used in the german stadiums such as dortmund, hamburg etc. Just because its german doesnt mean it has to be better. why would we need a derogation to put temporary seats into a ground that holds 70,000+ without them when we rarely get attendances that big?
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