Drogs' Court Case

Celdrog · 27/01/2009 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by micls

In your situation, you sold your ground to the FAI. Yes there were conditions, the fact that it would only be sold to help you buy a new stadium.

Keep believing Micls - why don't you ask Paul Doolin - he knows

micls · 27/01/2009 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Celdrog

Keep believing Micls - why don't you ask Paul Doolin - he knows

Keep believing what? It doesnt make a tap of difference to me either way.

Im simply looking at the facts. You cant sell the ground to save your club because you dont own it. If you owned it you could.

Simple really....

A face · 28/01/2009 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Celdrog

Keep believing Micls - why don't you ask Paul Doolin - he knows

Maybe its you who needs to keep believing Celdrog, heres a little song to help you ...

dcfcsteve · 28/01/2009 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by shelbourne1904

Has it struck anyone as kindof odd that the government has had no input into this at all.Here we have an industry that employs people who pay their taxes,or are supposed to anyway,in difficulty.If jobs go the taxes will be lost and labour will have to be paid out.Why are they not involved in some supportive manour as they would in any other industry.Ironic that it is they who are the major threatening debtors in the Drogs case.
I havent even mentioned the fact that if the league was finacially supported the anual leaue winners might be able to compete in Europe and would maybe fill the empty hotel rooms when the visiting teams come to play in the champions league.In other countries its called tourism income?
Buit I suppose we dont need the money that other countries relish.Ours has to be bringing Americans to castles.Money is Money no matter what the scvource??

Even if the government had the slightest interest in helping the league out - which they don't - there wouldn't be an ounce of public sympathy for bailing out a league that most of the country at best ignore, and at worse look down on, that has got into trouble not through any change in market conditions or due to the credit crunch - but purely and solely because it can't run itself anything close to sensibly.

I wouldn't even support a government bail out for an industry like that.

pineapple stu · 28/01/2009 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by A face

Exactly, they are prepared to let SMEs go belly up even when they are trying to keep up with a thriving demand

Clubs are trying to keep up with thriving demand? Come on. Even for you, that's ridiculous.

A face · 28/01/2009 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Clubs are trying to keep up with thriving demand? Come on. Even for you, that's ridiculous.

You're doing that thing again ... twisting the words. It works most of the time for ya Stu

pineapple stu · 28/01/2009 11:55 AM

No, I quoted you word for word. There's no club in this league beating customers away with a stick. There's no club in this league "trying to keep up with a thriving demand".

Jersey Cow · 28/01/2009 12:03 PM

I agree with Pineapple Stu, youre talking DUNG "AFACE"....
And as for your Celdrog, I am right behind you kid as every genuine fan is also that the Drogs come out and I for one "BELIEVE" they will as well as keep their Premier Division status!

A face · 28/01/2009 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

No, I quoted you word for word. There's no club in this league beating customers away with a stick. There's no club in this league "trying to keep up with a thriving demand".

Stu, i didn't mean to imply that any club was in that position. I was commenting on the inaction of the government to assist SMEs in the business community (not football clubs).

A face · 28/01/2009 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by John83

The government has much bigger problems than the league right now.

To which i said .... Exactly and then supporting the notion that they couldn't give a toss about the league

Originally Posted by A face

Exactly, they are prepared to let SMEs go belly up even when they are trying to keep up with a thriving demand, not having ring fenced any money to help support them.

Originally Posted by Jersey Cow

And as for your Celdrog, I am right behind you kid as every genuine fan is also that the Drogs come out and I for one "BELIEVE" they will as well as keep their Premier Division status!

I would be too, but i hope your not confusing the debate of Drogs owning or not owning their ground (how many posts was there on it?) with me wishing Drogs well in court/examinership/licensing/etc. .... especially since what our club has gone through recently. Dont even try and presume that i wouldn't wish them well.

pineapple stu · 28/01/2009 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by A face

Stu, i didn't mean to imply that any club was in that position. I was commenting on the inaction of the government to assist SMEs in the business community (not football clubs).

Fair enough. Putting it in a thread about football clubs kind of implies that the SMEs you were talking about were football clubs.

I don't think any business in the country is struggling to meet thriving demand either, mind.

A face · 28/01/2009 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Fair enough. Putting it in a thread about football clubs kind of implies that the SMEs you were talking about were football clubs.

I know, i should have read over it before posting, i'll always doing it though

I don't think any business in the country is struggling to meet thriving demand either, mind.

I would have thought so as well but we're wrong apparently. A few businesses that need to expand with demand cant because the cant secure funds from banks or government.

micls · 28/01/2009 1:30 PM

Originally Posted by Jersey Cow

And as for your Celdrog, I am right behind you kid as every genuine fan is also that the Drogs come out and I for one "BELIEVE" they will as well as keep their Premier Division status!

You've lost me...the discussion was about if they own United park or not

Scrufil · 28/01/2009 9:12 PM

What is an SME?

KianD · 28/01/2009 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Scrufil

What is an SME?

Small to Medium Enterprise.

Northern Light · 29/01/2009 12:01 AM

Kinda like Finn Harps so

Billy Lord · 29/01/2009 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Even if the government had the slightest interest in helping the league out - which they don't - there wouldn't be an ounce of public sympathy for bailing out a league that most of the country at best ignore, and at worse look down on, that has got into trouble not through any change in market conditions or due to the credit crunch - but purely and solely because it can't run itself anything close to sensibly.

I wouldn't even support a government bail out for an industry like that.

I agree, because the government and the public have, historically, every right to pour nothing but bottomless scorn on the LoI. How about LoI clubs deciding to run themselves efficiently and then looking for financial support in order to progress once they have realistic and attainable development plans? Surely that's not too much to ask?
It's at least a more dignified form of begging.

Duffman · 29/01/2009 12:28 AM

Untrue to say that no one complained about Monaghans pitch in the past, Gareth Cronin certainly did last season. Back on topic though Oriel would be the obvious place for DUFC to rent, how their fans would take to playing in a "bouncy castle" would be interesting. Would Morton Stadium not be more accessible to DUFC? Possibly closer as well than Oriel.

Celdrog · 29/01/2009 5:19 AM

I think you'll find the closest ground for us to play in next season is United Park. All will revealed in the next few days ............

wexfordned · 29/01/2009 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Celdrog

I think you'll find the closest ground for us to play in next season is United Park. All will revealed in the next few days ............

If Drogs get to play premier division football in that kip next season & with the same board of directors we might as well put Borat in charge of FAI licencing