Now that's a songOriginally Posted by Pauro 76
Now if we are talking about major d*cks he must go down as one of the worst offenders in Irish music history. Where is he now I ask. A bitter twisted sad git is Fearghal McKee. Whipping Boy were a decent band but I saw them about 2 years ago in the Olympia after a long lay off and they were rubbish. One of the worst gigs I have ever been at.
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Brutal song but then their P.R and Hype machine will kick in and thus people will feel they have to say its a good song.
But you Eamo know better than these weak people who succomb to hype. If only we could be as strong as you.
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Watch the video doing the rounds. It will premier on ITV tonight, it will also be on the Irish independent's website later on this afternoon as well. Watch it! - then see if it's still a "big pile of s*it." Oh ye of little faith!
HA! He is a bit off alright, met him in Whelans one night and he kept trying to come on to one of my friends' girlfriends! He wouldnt give up even when she asked him not to. He's defo not all there either, poor fella!
The Fly, can you see this video now?
Last edited by Rovers1; 30/01/2009 at 2:31 PM.
Rovers1 - yeah I downloaded earlier. It will be on ITV tonight, at 11.30 I think. The video is amazing!
It's like a psychedelic Bond video. Watch out for the funny bit at the end - Bono punching through a concrete block.
Last edited by The Fly; 30/01/2009 at 6:17 PM.
Rovers1 - yeah I downloaded earlier. It will be on ITV tonight, at 11.30 I think. The video is amazing!
It's like a psychedelic Bond video. Watch out for the funny bit at the end - Bono punching through a concrete block.
The song will still be gank,no matter what the video is like..
^ I respectfully disagree.
Again, the video is f**king amazing. ZOO TV meets Salvador Dali.
according to a few websites, the video didnt get released in time.
Where did you download it from The Fly??
Just fly will do.
Rovers1 - I got a link to it from the 'U2 Interference' website. The link was to Megaupload, but it's no longer working. *I believe this was because of copyright issues. In the video, at least the one I have, you can see the - gettyimages - sign in the background. It probably has to be removed first.
Anyway, there are supposed to be 2 videos for the song. The one I have, which everyone on the U2 Interference forum is going ape**** about, and another one which is the same performance from the band but with a popart/cartoon backdrop to it.
They would be mad not release the former, it's the best video they have ever made! Believe me - nobody will hate the song after seeing the video. The best part is the "let my in the sound" part of the song in the video, when Bono is smashing the glass. Great!
I have it on my computer but I don't how to provide a link to it, so you can see it. All that is virgin territory for me.
P.S. Bono has his top off in part of it near the end.
*edit - after looking at U2 interference it seems the reason was because of a woman's breast showing in the video. SEXY BOOBS!
Last edited by The Fly; 31/01/2009 at 2:12 AM.
I've seen Whipping Boy have very good and very bad nights. Last time they played Limerick on their re-union tour the venue was crammed with event junkie dicks there to hear one or two songs. Beyond that the crowd largely ignored whipping boy and were downright abusive to supports. I suspect this was the same tour you saw them on.
...wow. Bloke gets drunk and cracks on to girls ...and in a nightclub too!! Jaysis he's an awful demon that one.
Fly, you're evidently a U2 fan and I respect that. But here in your own words you're relegating the song to the role of soundtrack for the video. Maybe that's just the way rock'n'roll has gone since the rise of MTV -but it is nonetheless sad in every sense of the word.
Let's not forget that they're songwriters ...great ones supposedly -not movie makers or video directors. Even if the video is the best thing since sliced pan -I think it unlikely their actual creative input, expressed as a percentage, would make it out of single figures.
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He has a very valid point Neil and it's fair to make it. If Get On Your Boots (horrific grammar btw) was released by an even moderately famous band it'd quite likely die on it's hole. But because of their sheer popularity and the inertia of the media -especially those who draw up playlists - it'll be rammed down throats until consensus is arrived at that it's great sure.
The same can be said, I think, of much of their output in the last two decades which says to me they're still to an extent riding a quite remarkable wave created primarily by The Joshua Tree. It is no co-incidence, to my mind, that the best thing they've released since then was originally a b-side of one of the singles from the Joshua Tree.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
I've seen Whipping Boy have very good and very bad nights. Last time they played Limerick on their re-union tour the venue was crammed with event junkie dicks there to hear one or two songs. Beyond that the crowd largely ignored whipping boy and were downright abusive to supports. I suspect this was the same tour you saw them on.
...wow. Bloke gets drunk and cracks on to girls ...and in a nightclub too!! Jaysis he's an awful demon that one.
Fly, you're evidently a U2 fan and I respect that. But here in your own words you're relegating the song to the role of soundtrack for the video. Maybe that's just the way rock'n'roll has gone since the rise of MTV -but it is nonetheless sad in every sense of the word.
Let's not forget that they're songwriters ...great ones supposedly -not movie makers or video directors. Even if the video is the best thing since sliced pan -I think it unlikely their actual creative input, expressed as a percentage, would make it out of single figures.
...is the correct answer.
He has a very valid point Neil and it's fair to make it. If Get On Your Boots (horrific grammar btw) was released by an even moderately famous band it'd quite likely die on it's hole. But because of their sheer popularity and the inertia of the media -especially those who draw up playlists - it'll be rammed down throats until consensus is arrived at that it's great sure.
The same can be said, I think, of much of their output in the last two decades which says to me they're still to an extent riding a quite remarkable wave created primarily by The Joshua Tree. It is no co-incidence, to my mind, that the best thing they've released since then was originally a b-side of one of the singles from the Joshua Tree.
Rubbish why do you have the ability to assess their music and dislike it but anyone who has likes it are just given into the media hype. It is fair enough to not like the music which is grand as music is about taste but no you and eamo go further than that and say that anybody that does like it are not equipped with the full critical capabilties that you are possessed with and are in effect drones of the media. What gave you the super powers to sit back and critique modern culture while most or all of the U2 fans become drones to it.
Finally I agree that the video will have not bearing on how good the song is. The video is basically a TV ad for songs anyway. If someone likes the song fair enough but the video will not convince somebody who hates the song to like it.
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Christ Ritchie you are one bitter person!
Just saw the video on youtube. It is brilliant! Really does not look like a U2 video at all!!
Last edited by Rovers1; 31/01/2009 at 5:00 PM.
Do you have a link.
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looked through my browser history, went to the page and alas Universal took it down, copyright etc. It reminds me of MGMT's Time To Pretend.
You'll have to show me where I rated my critique skills above anyone elses. A re-read of my previous post shows I've qualified pretty much every opinion as being mine alone. I'm sure there are many people, and not just U2 fans, out there that might like it.
My point I believe was that their rather ordinary, unremarkable new single will be given a very easy ride not on it's stand alone merit but on the basis of who released it.
I didn't use the term 'drone' but it's not a bad description. We're going beyond U2 and the subject at hand now but ...yeah -I think there is a fairly huge constituency within the record buying public who buy, like and listen to pretty much what they're told to buy, like and listen to. The majors couldn't have become the majors without them.
um ...I found this crystal in the snow and...
wtf?
Please keep up. The thread is about a song -not a video.
...now that's a decent song.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
The beauty of music is that you can argue and treatise the topic ad nauseum - which can sometimes be worthwhile and interesting in itself - but you will always arrive back to one simple fact:
You either like it.......... or you don't.
Quoting years at random since 1975
Indeed Wolfie. I think it was Frank Zappa who said that for the most part -talking about music is like dancing about architecture.
Just on the subject of U2 if I may give some credit where I feel it's due. I've never been a fan as such though I acknowledge they occasionally have a fine tune. But (the credit's coming now I promise) they are men in their late 40's who've been doing this since their teens and who are going out on tour to promote their brand new album.
There are bands out there I really like ...The Who for example and of particular relevance The Rolling Stones who, since they were younger men than U2 are now, have been going out on what were essentially lucrative greatest hits tours. Yeah an album would be released but, especially with the Stones, there was always the feeling the album came out to promote the tour rather than the other way round.
Last edited by Lionel Ritchie; 02/02/2009 at 2:23 PM.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
You have done it again. Not only do you not agree with peoples taste which is fine, that is totally acceptable and normal and what life is about and Frank Zappa is right. What I was pointing out with eamo's comment first and then you came into it is, you seem to think that your opinion is an independent opinion that is not constructed by the mass media or the majors however those that like U2 or other such bands do not have these critical abilities. What gives you the ability to not listen to the majors while other poor sods out there buy what they are told to buy.
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