I looked for a thread giving out about Trap not being at a Premier League match and couldn't find one. Maybe it's just Pat Dolan's imagination but I was led to believe that he dosen't go to matches but lets Liam and Marco do it instead. Who was that talking to Capello at the Blackburn-Newcastle game today?
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Yeah, I got that. I was looking for a thread saying he NEVER goes to matches. There was a lot of negativity around after the Polish match and even before saying he dosen't know his players and dosen't go to watch them. Today proved them wrong, two games in one day, fair dues.
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honestly dont get the point in you starting this thread in a smug way because trap actually attended matches for one day since he took over, he should want to do this on a regular basis, you mentioned capello, he is the complete opposite he attends many games evry weekend to keep track of his players.
he has actually attended a few matches before this one. i remember a few weeks ago he went to watch ipswich play
I could'nt give a flying fcuk if he never went to an english game so long as we qualify for the world cup!
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He was also at Preston vs Burnley.
I'd expect to see either Stephen Elliott or Sean St Ledger in the squad as a resultOr maybe even Chris McCann.
I personally would love to see St Ledger get in on recent form as potential cover for Dunne who lets face it is liable to do anything these days!
LESS OF THE BULL NOW!
^great to hear he was at that game
I think the point is that we would have a better chance of qualifying if the manager knew more about the players and picked the right ones. Great to see Trapp at Preston yesterday, but it has taken the management team long enough to check out a player who has been performing outstandingly all season. St Ledger must be called up.
You make me laugh. I am sure you know why that is!
ive only been on this forum a few months, but hasnt ciaran constantly said that st.ledger isnt good enough to be called up? or was it a different ciaran
Ahhh here we go
agree, i never understood all the fuss about this. not a huge issue for me.
I have to laugh when muppets on a forum think they can second guess one of the great managers of modern times... fact! If Trapp thinks that the best way to pick the squad is by drawing lots then he's right. His methods are right more often than not ...and have been working for us also!!! Just let him get on with the job of getting us to the world cup
Balls to that... If he's not gonna get exposure to the players via squad variety he should be at more games, full stop. What's he basing his selections on since his first get together.... A friendly against an uninterested Forest Team?
Trapp knows football. He's given our starting 11 a sense of purpose and direction we're not know for a few years.
However Trapp knows f'ck all about the players availible to him and has done very little to counter that. I heard the interview were he didn't even know who Rory Delap was. According to another thread Trapp cites the Gulf between Championship and International football, yet includes players that can't get a regular game at club level in the Championship (Long, Kehoe, Gibson last year, Bruce). It's bullsh!t. Trapps a knowledgable man, but he's bone idle.
Rubbish. Trap has a responsibility to pick the team best suited for the job. That means that the team may change based on the opposition, but it certainly means Trap has to know who is in form, who isnt in form, what each player abilities and limitations are, what their attitude to certain tasks is like, etc. To me, that is not going beyond the call of duty, that is the minimum a manager should be doing.
I cant see a way he can get this information without watching the players on a regular basis. And until recently, he hadn't been doing that. He was rightly criticised for it in my opinion.
as usual on this matter DrP, i agree with you 100%. Trap is lazy and self contradictory. Bland, uninspiring squad which rewards mediocrity and ignores potential. His support team must shoulder some of the blame too in my opinion. I'm getting more and more disillusioned by the game, the Poland game is a sign of our future under this team. Conservative manager, conservative tactics/style serviced by average players.
Just my opinion but I would rather not qualify for this tournament and instead blood some of the very exciting young talents plying their trade in the Premier and Championship.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Hard to disagree with that. Well said. You could add that he seems to be too reliant on the likes of Givens whose judgment or even objectivity is questionable.
Forget blooding new players for the future, we play so few matches per year that it is not worth sacrifcing results now for potential later. Staunton was all about blooding new talent and who is a regular in the team now thanks to him? Nobody.
Trap should be picking our best players available for each match. This means including players such as Carsley who will still be Championship regulars by the time the World Cup rolls around seventeen months from now. He needs to forget this Whelan-Gibson central midfield partnership and go for two much more experienced players. Nothing against Whelan or Gibson, but they have not proven themselves in my opinion yet.
I was glad we lost to Poland because it showed everyone that his tactics were not working. I was glad because we didn't need a qualifier loss to prove this. Why does he persist with crap players and a crap approach to playing the game?
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