QuoteThe least of our worries really, neither of em would be on the startin XI anyway barring a major catastrophe.Originally Posted by the doc
Ireland is dead and buried for good now , but watch the media milk the living daylights of it.
All that bald god ugly little **** had to do was text Brady.
Scum and Brady was right. However the Reid thing is a outrage ...speaking about wanting to play for your country ..well Andy said last week he would pay to play ! so abit ironic for Brady to spout that crap about respect for your country.
The least of our worries really, neither of em would be on the startin XI anyway barring a major catastrophe.
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St Ledger will only get better, lets not forget he has yet to play a game for Ireland.
We need to get him tied up to our country
Can anyone explain a bit more what was said about Ireland?
Is Miller confirmed as being in the squad?
Why isn't Joey O'Brien being considered?
That's not a problem if its his country as well.
Explain? He doesn't want to play. It's as simple as that.
Yes.
Not good enough and I think he's injured.
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Last edited by carloz; 19/01/2009 at 10:13 AM.
This is the actual squad
Goalkeepers
Shay Given - Newcastle United
Dean Kiely - West Brom
Keiren Westwood - Coventry City
Defenders
Alex Bruce - Ipswich Town
Damien Delaney - QPR
John O'Shea - Manchester United
Kevin Foley - Wolves
Paul McShane - Sunderland
Richard Dunne - Manchester City
Stephen Kelly - Birmingham City
Steve Finnan - Espanyol
Kevin Kilbane Hull City
Midfielders
Aiden McGeady - Glasgow Celtic
Damien Duff - Newcastle United
Darron Gibson - Manchester United
Glenn Whelan - Stoke City
Keith Andrews - Blackburn Rovers
Liam Miller - QPR
Stephen Hunt - Reading
Andy Keogh - Wolves
Forwards
Caleb Folan - Hull City
Kevin Doyle - Reading
Robbie Keane - Liverpool
Shane Long - Reading
Noel Hunt - Reading
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Yes he did mention his name but I understood it to be in the context of Trapattoni trying to explain why he needs to be consistent with his team selections and not to make too many changes.
Last edited by ifk101; 19/01/2009 at 10:18 AM.
I'm extremely disappointed Andy Reid isn't in the squad. Whatever about Stephen Ireland, we all know thats his own choice. But Andy Reid would love to be in the squad.
Can someone tell me how Trap thinks he's not a better option in midfield than Miller, Gibson, etc?
A major catastrophe such as..... Dunne and McShanes performance this weekend?? They're off form. Trapp clearly reckons Bruce is the next best in line. I can't cite lazyness this time as he's seen St Ledger in the flesh. So I'll have to sit and wait. I think we should be doing all we can to best insulate ourselves from any changes, catastrophe or otherwise.
Trapp's old school and his problem is that he's never had to contend with fans with such an in depth knowledge of fringe player availibilty. And I'm not talking about Irish fans specifically. I'm talking about the internet and dedicated sports channels facilitating an International fans' awareness of players that managers wouldn't have had to contend with in the past. Imagine Charlton getting this kind of lackery for selecting Morris over Irwin 20 years ago. He'd dig his heels in on principal. (Maybe he did I can't recall, just searchig for an example)
Never mind the might of the Russian army at your front door ..the poor Georgians must be totally terrified at the taughts of Liam Miller ,Whelan , Gibosn, Keogh , Bruce and Mc Shane
It's been done man, on threads after his previous squads. In a weird way I actually feel numb-er after Trapps squads, than I did after Stans.
I've learned not to look forward to his squads.
Unsurprising but still disappointing. Foley and St Ledger have got to be two of our most consistent and accomplished defenders. It must be really demoralising for players who are turning in outstanding performances every week and then seeing the likes of Bruce, Kelly and McShane selected ahead of them.
I really dont understand the logic behind Trapp's selections. If we are not prepared to introduce fresh talent during the qualification period, then there is certainly no way that he will experiment if we do qualify. He seems to be saying that this is the squad and that's that, yet Andrews, Gibson and Folan were brought in when none of them were playing enough regular football to assess their form.
He uses age as the argument for excluding Delap and Carsley (and presumably Morrison) and yet if we was building for the future he would
surely be prepared to introducr the likes of Foley, St Ledger, Ward, Garvan, O'Toole et al.
I get the feeling that Brady and Trapp are sinking into a bunker where they are determined to resist any external pressure to select individual players. The arguments and the body language are defensive, tetchy and unconvincing. They seem determined to justify their selections and ommisions, rather than admit that some of their judgements were just wrong or too hasty. Miller and Stokes's carrers are in virtual free fall yet they are still either in the squad or on standby. Is there a single Ireland fan anywhere who thinks that Carsely and Morrison would not offer more to the squad at the present moment than these two.
I couldn't hear the soundtrack at the press conference, and maybe this just accentuated the impression that I was watching Laurel and Hardy. I know I'll get slated for this criticism of the management and reminde that we are on course for qualification etc, but I have a horrible sinking feeling about our current regime and their self-destructive stubborness which could still prove our undoing.
im sorry but i have my doubts about trap.
look abuse me all ye want but we are not going to qualify for S.A unless Andy Reid and Ireland are in the squad and starting 11.
our midfield options are the worst i have seen in a long time.
Stephen Ireland not being in the squad has nothing to do with Trap!
You want Ireland in the squad? Then pray tell how you get him in the squad? They have met with him, he refused and said he will let them know if he wishes to be arsed to play. Should they kidnap him and drop him on the middle of the pitch?
**** Stephen Ireland and all this bull**** around him. He has been given every opportunity to come back if he so wishes. He doesn't wish to take up the position so let him **** off and die for all I care.
Roddy Collins, the biggest <insert as appropiate> in Irish Football.
Why wouldn't they be? They've lost to these players already, and now the game is in Dublin
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