QuoteATM we are inside the 3rd seed pot for the uefa qual draw with a decent chance of getting into the 2nd seed pot, if we complete this campaign to qualify for the WC.
Originally Posted by SuperDave
Does this make us a 4th seed ??
Originally posted by UEFA Website
The UEFA Executive Committee has approved the procedure for the UEFA EURO 2012™ qualifying competition draw in Warsaw, Poland, on 7 February 2010. The procedure was given the green light at the committee's meeting in Nyon on Monday and Tuesday.
Hosts qualify automatically
Fifty-one of the 53 UEFA member associations will take part in the qualifying draw, as the two UEFA EURO 2012™ host countries, Poland and Ukraine, qualify automatically for the final tournament.
Qualifying competition
The qualifying competition will comprise six groups of six teams (groups A-F) and three groups of five teams (groups G-I). Sides in each group will play one another on a home and away basis, with qualifying matches scheduled according to the international match calendar between September 2010 and November 2011. The nine winners and the best runner-up qualify directly for the final tournament. The eight remaining runners-up contest play-off matches.
Six pots
For the draw, the 51 teams are allocated to six pots. Pots 1 to 5 contain nine sides each and Pot 6 will have six teams. The sides are classified on the basis of the UEFA national team rankings on completion of the qualifying games for the 2010 FIFA World Cup (last match to be played on 18 November). The reigning European champions (Spain) are seeded in Pot 1.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
ATM we are inside the 3rd seed pot for the uefa qual draw with a decent chance of getting into the 2nd seed pot, if we complete this campaign to qualify for the WC.
would be magic to sneak into the second pot
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
I know FIFA are not putting out the next rankings list till October 16th so are the upcoming games being put into this list - does anyone know?
Yes that is why they are waiting.
Cheers - taught that
It looks like the ranking procedure has been changed because in these rankings Ireland are ranked 5th
1. Spain
2. Brazil
3. Italy
4. France
5. Ireland
6. South Africa
7. Australia
8. New Zealand
9. Denmark
10. Canada
http://tinyurl.com/yc9zlob
Edgar,
can you do your preview on the weekend games if you dont mind
there's only one thing really matters..... what do we need to do to avoid sweden, latvia, slovenia and bosnia overtaking us.... that's important for now, cos unless those four also make the playoffs, we are second seeds.... and even still, sweden may nip past us if results go their way.Edgar,
can you do your preview on the weekend games if you dont mind
I did that on September 18th. Check my blog, the top section has some links.Edgar,
can you do your preview on the weekend games if you dont mind
Just a suggestion but would it make sense to change the name of this thread. Maybe to Ireland: FIFA Rankings or something. It's a bit misleading now that it's developed into a continuously updating rankings thread. Maybe I'm just being petty but sometimes when it pops up to one of the top threads I think we've jumped up another couple of places!!
FIFA did not update their ranking table to take account of the Sept qual.
Before the Sept qualifiers we were officially ranked 38 with 743 points
With a predicted draw against Italy and win against Montenegro we are calculated to have a total of ranking 805 points.
So, for altogether 3 wins and draw, we would only get 60 points?
It seems a bit lean.
Points expire too. I expect that's having an effect there.
You can't spell failure without FAI
The 1 nil defeat to France dropped off the rankings radar.
I can't imagine there were too many good times after that to worry about with getting reduced in % of ranking value.
For instance in August, Norway got a 100 points for beating Scotland, Croatia got about 60 for beating lowly Belarus away.
It's either a mistake by Edgar or a conspiracy, that allows us only 60 points for 3 wins and a draw.
If we beat Italy we'd get another 89 points.
It is down to a number of factors including the quality of the opposition, the importance of the game and as has been said points drop off as well.
I think we lose the win over Cyprus and the draw with Switzerland in October 2005 for example.
Still, all we lose is 20% of the value of those games from 4 years ago,
one win, one draw and one loss from our last 3 games in WC qual 2006
According to Edgar our ranking points of 748, did not shift after our wins against Cyprus and SA.
You would think, offsetting what we gain against what we lose, from a starting point of 748 ranking points on Sept 2,
we gain 80% of the ranking points on offer v Cyprus
gain 100% against SA
gain 100% against Montenegro
gain 80% for drawing against Italy - plus a small bonus
Other games that lose a % of ranking impact are from sept Oct 2006/ 2007 /2008
Overall you would think that we would benefit substantially from that.
Last edited by geysir; 08/10/2009 at 9:29 AM.
i'm now more confused than ever.
is it still the case then that if ukraine finish second and we beat both italy and montenegro, we would be top seeds?
No, there is more to it.
We would be ahead of Ukraine in the seeding pot, but there is the matter of Portugal and the Czech republic should they be in the qual draw.
ah yes of course, i meant assuming other teams finish as they are.
would a draw with italy be enough?
The ranking points predictions are a mystery to me if we only get 60 points for 3 wins plus a draw plus at the same time improving our overall win ratio over the 4 years
in contrast to Norway alone getting a 100 points for a single win in August.
In the light of this unexplainable conspiratorial process to keep our ranking points down, we would have to beat Italy to keep ahead of the Ukraine if they beat England.
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