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    Good work once again Edgar. FIFA should give you a job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspain View Post
    The FIFA rankings count for World Cup qualifying seedings. They actually do matter. Apparently they won't be used for playoff seeding.
    Next WC draw is end of 2012, hardly an issue.
    Euro seedings are of relevance.

    Re NI, I would much prefer them to have beaten Slovakia than to have them losing so some Ireland fans can enjoy some spurious sense of superiority in a table of little relevance to real status. It would have been remarkable to have had both teams in the play offs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Next WC draw is end of 2012, hardly an issue.
    Euro seedings are of relevance.

    Re NI, I would much prefer them to have beaten Slovakia than to have them losing so some Ireland fans can enjoy some spurious sense of superiority in a table of little relevance to real status. It would have been remarkable to have had both teams in the play offs.
    The next World Cup draw is just over 2 years away in 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspain View Post
    The next World Cup draw is just over 2 years away in 2011.

    apologies but i am completely lost here ? how are the seedings for the next euros being decided? where do we stand ? will the results of our last two games in this set of qualifiers have a bearing ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerMilla View Post
    apologies but i am completely lost here ? how are the seedings for the next euros being decided? where do we stand ? will the results of our last two games in this set of qualifiers have a bearing ?
    See here

    http://www.football-rankings.info/20...fficients.html

    It implies we'll be a 3rd seed. Now there may well be 7 or even 8 groups instead of 9.

    Our last 2 games and 2 playoffs will count. It is early to speculate but a 3rd seeding looks likely.

    The FIFA rankings were used last time for the world cup and will likely be used again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspain View Post
    See here

    http://www.football-rankings.info/20...fficients.html

    It implies we'll be a 3rd seed. Now there may well be 7 or even 8 groups instead of 9.

    Our last 2 games and 2 playoffs will count. It is early to speculate but a 3rd seeding looks likely.

    The FIFA rankings were used last time for the world cup and will likely be used again.
    were it to stay in the 9 team format edgar uses there, would a decent performance in the playoffs and remaining quualifers run us into second ?? bearing in mind scotland are stagnant now and hopefully bulgaria are too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerMilla View Post
    were it to stay in the 9 team format edgar uses there, would a decent performance in the playoffs and remaining quualifers run us into second ?? bearing in mind scotland are stagnant now and hopefully bulgaria are too?
    Pity draw for the Euro 2012 qualifiers will be made before June 2010.
    Will be strange to be third seeds in the qualifiers after we win the the world cup.

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    Edgar - had you any luck with the ranking table?

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    It's up now.

    FIFA Ranking: October 2009 preview (III).

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    Those rankings for Euro 2012 can't be right!If I remember, Bulgaria slipped into 2nd seeds just ahead of Ireland and Slovakia. Scotland have had a dismal campaign, as have Romania. I would imagine we have certainly overtaken Bulgaria and Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    It's up now.

    FIFA Ranking: October 2009 preview (III).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bungle View Post
    Those rankings for Euro 2012 can't be right!If I remember, Bulgaria slipped into 2nd seeds just ahead of Ireland and Slovakia. Scotland have had a dismal campaign, as have Romania. I would imagine we have certainly overtaken Bulgaria and Scotland.
    They had a much better campaign than us last time out.

    Weighting is 20% 2006 campaign and 40% each for this campaign and Euro2008.

    Anyway we have overtaken Scotland but not Bulgaria.

    http://www.football-rankings.info/20...cients_14.html

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    Remember the World Cup seedings are done on the FIFA rankings. European Championship seedings are done based on past 3 tournaments.

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    When is the Euro draw made? Can we get seeded second by then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby Doo View Post
    When is the Euro draw made? Can we get seeded second by then?
    Euro draw takes place early in 2010

    We have 2 games left in the group Qualifiers and if we progress we have 2 play off games. If the play offs are considered as part of the equation then we have a chance.
    Romania would be the target.
    If we have 3 wins or 2 wins and 2 draws, I think we would overtake Romania who should get 1 win.

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    The Euro draw is on 7 February.

    If there are only seven groups as in Euro 08, then two of them will be outsize (ie 16 teams playing 14 matches). Sounds impractical to me.

    Eight groups would likely mean that a couple of group runners-up (maybe from seven-team groups) would miss out.

    Nine groups of five or six with the best runner up qualifying and the other eight into a play-off seems most likely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Euro draw takes place early in 2010

    We have 2 games left in the group Qualifiers and if we progress we have 2 play off games. If the play offs are considered as part of the equation then we have a chance.
    Romania would be the target.
    If we have 3 wins or 2 wins and 2 draws, I think we would overtake Romania who should get 1 win.
    The playoffs do count.

    Slovakia could draw with Slovenia to qualify and lose in Poland so they are a target too but it is a longshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    The Euro draw is on 7 February.

    If there are only seven groups as in Euro 08, then two of them will be outsize (ie 16 teams playing 14 matches). Sounds impractical to me.

    Eight groups would likely mean that a couple of group runners-up (maybe from seven-team groups) would miss out.

    Nine groups of five or six with the best runner up qualifying and the other eight into a play-off seems most likely?
    Referring to this seeding table, the assumption is "UEFA will use a qualifying system with six groups of six teams and three of five teams"

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Referring to this seeding table, the assumption is "UEFA will use a qualifying system with six groups of six teams and three of five teams"
    oh good... that means there is one lucky runner up rather than one unlucky one.... 9*group winners, 1*best runner up 4*playoff winners
    Superdave to the resc....

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