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    Quote Originally Posted by swinfordfc View Post
    so with the preview of the rankings for 6th of june and the nigeria game is not into account - we are up to 29th.

    if the nigeria game was taken into account and all the other games tonight (think there's 6 in all) would this change ours position? i doubt it but we if we was to win - surley we go above nigeria and move up to 28th?
    If the Nigeria game is taken into account, anything but a win will bring your total down. A win will keep it unchanged - 797 points. With a draw - 762, a loss - 745.

    If you defeat Nigeria, you will overtake them, as their total would drop to 753 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    If the Nigeria game is taken into account, anything but a win will bring your total down. A win will keep it unchanged - 797 points. With a draw - 762, a loss - 745.

    If you defeat Nigeria, you will overtake them, as their total would drop to 753 points.
    thanks - we better win so .......

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    FIFA Ranking: June 2009 possible changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    FIFA Ranking: June 2009 possible changes.
    Still at 34th place - we are struck here

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    Right so FIFA did include matches up to end of May - so how will the result in bulgaria affect our position by 1st July and how did the Nigeria win over France affect them? it puts the our draw with them in a new light

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    A little patience

    I have to get to the bottom of June 2009 FIFA Ranking differences first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swinfordfc View Post
    Right so FIFA did include matches up to end of May - so how will the result in bulgaria affect our position by 1st July and how did the Nigeria win over France affect them? it puts the our draw with them in a new light
    FIFA Ranking: July 2009 preview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    FIFA Ranking: July 2009 preview.
    edgar,

    and chance of a preview after saturday nights games please

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    FIFA Ranking: July 2009 preview (II).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    FIFA Ranking: July 2009 preview (II).
    Edgar,

    is the rankings now based over the last 4 years results or what is it based on - could you explain?
    i think ireland will slip in july rankings ....... to 36th prehaps?

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    We are higher than Belgium so I am happy )
    The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist thinks it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deckydee View Post
    We are higher than Belgium so I am happy )
    Belgium are no great team is terms of world football in fairest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swinfordfc View Post
    Belgium are no great team is terms of world football in fairest!
    Well we're not better than Belgium, they have far better players and much more for a manager to work with.

    Their centre back(one of Van Buyen(Bayern Munich) Vicent Kompany(Manchester City) Vanden Boore(Genoa) ) Vermailen is being lined up by Arsenal for 12 million while our 'world class' centre back is gonna be sold to Stoke City.

    Add to that Witsel, Defour and Fellaini(oldest out of all them might be defour and he's about 20-21 max) contesting for midfield spaces and their team overall is pretty deadly. If they had a good striker and a keeper they would be very very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swinfordfc View Post
    Edgar,

    is the rankings now based over the last 4 years results or what is it based on - could you explain?
    i think ireland will slip in july rankings ....... to 36th prehaps?
    Yes, it's based on results in the last 48 months.
    To better understand how the rankings work, see the FIFA Ranking detailed point totals section on my site.

    I have you tied for 37th with Honduras.

    FIFA Ranking: July 2009 probable ranking (III).

    We'll have a better picture on June 28th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    Well we're not better than Belgium, they have far better players and much more for a manager to work with.

    Their centre back(one of Van Buyen(Bayern Munich) Vicent Kompany(Manchester City) Vanden Boore(Genoa) ) Vermailen is being lined up by Arsenal for 12 million while our 'world class' centre back is gonna be sold to Stoke City.

    Add to that Witsel, Defour and Fellaini(oldest out of all them might be defour and he's about 20-21 max) contesting for midfield spaces and their team overall is pretty deadly. If they had a good striker and a keeper they would be very very good.
    I don't buy it. I'd take O'Shea and Dunne over those centre-halfs, and I don't care if the Premiership teams don't rate Dunne. Okay, he had an off year by his standards, but Stoke isn't his level, and anybody who thinks so knows nothing about the game.

    Keane, Doyle, Duff, McGeady, and even Folan (who cares how Hull rate him, I think he's class), are all quality players that Belgium would love to have in their ranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    Well we're not better than Belgium, they have far better players and much more for a manager to work with.

    Their centre back(one of Van Buyen(Bayern Munich) Vicent Kompany(Manchester City) Vanden Boore(Genoa) ) Vermailen is being lined up by Arsenal for 12 million while our 'world class' centre back is gonna be sold to Stoke City.

    Add to that Witsel, Defour and Fellaini(oldest out of all them might be defour and he's about 20-21 max) contesting for midfield spaces and their team overall is pretty deadly. If they had a good striker and a keeper they would be very very good.
    Beyond that they have very little and their league is in disaray, so much so that there is talk of merging their league with that of the Dutch. Plus they lost home and away to Bosnia recently which is very disapointing. In the Euro 2008 qualifying they got 18 points from 14 games and finished 5th in the group which is quite simply brutal. Hell they were 6 points behind Finland. They may have some good quality players but as a team they have been seriously struggling in recent years and there is no way in the world they are better than ireland at the minute

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    Wouldn't Belgium cease to exist as a football team if they joined with the Dutch League?(I presume since Netherlands are in dominant position they would be ok) How would they work it out? Just have a makeshift part-time League in its place?

    I understand that but Belgium has a very young and inexperienced team, if they got a manager of prestige(I hear Dick Advocaat is being lined up) then I think they have a real good team.

    I don't buy it. I'd take O'Shea and Dunne over those centre-halfs, and I don't care if the Premiership teams don't rate Dunne. Okay, he had an off year by his standards, but Stoke isn't his level, and anybody who thinks so knows nothing about the game.

    Keane, Doyle, Duff, McGeady, and even Folan (who cares how Hull rate him, I think he's class), are all quality players that Belgium would love to have in their ranks.
    I think Dunne is good but my point is Belgium could pick from 2 of Van Buyten, Vermailen, Vanden Boore or Kompany as their centre backs.
    Dunne is better than Van Buyten but remember Kompany could be the player that replaces him at centre back permanently next season.

    I agree about Doyle, Keane and McGeady, but I would kill for those midfielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    Wouldn't Belgium cease to exist as a football team if they joined with the Dutch League?
    There are cases of combined leagues between multiple countries (Canada competes in the mostly American MLS, and Welsh teams compete in the English league), and there is talk of a Balkan league forming between former Yugoslav Republics:

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/030320...an-league.html

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    I think its because of financial difficulties. If they do unite it would be very difficult for Belgium to keep their half share in the league. The Mid table Dutch teams would be stronger than the mid table Belgian teams. I hope it doesn't happen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carloz View Post
    I think its because of financial difficulties. If they do unite it would be very difficult for Belgium to keep their half share in the league. The Mid table Dutch teams would be stronger than the mid table Belgian teams. I hope it doesn't happen though.
    That might happen initially, but surely if Dutch teams were playing regularly in Belgium that would boost attendances and sponsorship, and eventually that injection of money would help those teams compete with the Dutch teams?

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