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    List of things that are only popular in Ireland:

    Charlie Landsborough
    Fianna Fáil
    Cabbage
    Red lemonade
    Killinascully
    Sexual abuse by the clergy
    Gaelic football/hurling


    QED and checkmate, boggers.
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    Hurling is quite good, actually.

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    what are you talking about? i lived in barcelona when i was 8 and football(gaelic) is played there.

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    Don't think anyone has a problem with the actual games, but the GAA as an organisation leave a lot to be desired when it comes to keeping egos in check

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    keeping egos in check
    AS if LOI footballers egos are small

    Fueled by the high wages clubs were will to pay mediocre players

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulmersKid View Post
    AS if LOI footballers egos are small

    Fueled by the high wages clubs were will to pay mediocre players
    not at my club boy! paudie o'shea in his final year in charge of Kerry, expences.....€98,000.

    by no way am i anti GAA and i cant wait for the first round of the championship but to see that start to the programme last night with the computer generated artain boys band.....Leni Riefenstahl would have blushed!

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    Its a regional sport, and if people enjoy it, let them. If the people involved want to tell themselves that the rest of the world cares, and that they own the best stadium in the world, let them. Generally a person who has to constantly compliment themselves are threatened by something external. I feel for RTE. Instead of being content with the sport and spending energy promoting the actual sport, they have to try to brow beat viewers into nearly choosing the sport over other sports. Next time you hear " You wouldn't get action like this in the premiership', just laugh. Platini is currently drawing up a plan to deal with the competition.

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    Anti GAA? MMMM - Yes!

    I emailed Des Cahill on drive-time sports on numerous occasions (especially on friday nights) about his GAA bias (bit of a one man email campaign really). The best one was when drogs were playing Dynamo (I think it was the home game) and he failed to mention anything about it. At the end of the programme he said something along the lines of "we have had a few emails suggesting that we give time to tonights other sporting events but I'm sure the listeners will appreciate our busy schedule of topics" - the topic for that night was him and some other goon goinig on about the developement of hurling in Connaught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gael353 View Post
    not at my club boy! paudie o'shea in his final year in charge of Kerry, expences.....€98,000.
    and we wont mention the helicopter trips when in charge of Westmeath!!!!!!
    (the county will never clear them debts)

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    Thanks to the Late Late Show I have discovered that my sister-in-law was right, I am a West Brit. I prefer ballet to irish dancing, wine to guinness, wildlife to farms, rock to trad, choosing to have only 2 children and according to someone (blanked out the name for my sanity) last night the 3 tenants of being Irish are: Fianna Fail, The Catholic Church and GAA.

    I will hand myself over to the authorities and request that I am immediately deported to France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheridan View Post
    List of things that are only popular in Ireland:

    Charlie Landsborough
    Fianna Fáil
    Cabbage
    Red lemonade
    Killinascully
    Sexual abuse by the clergy
    Gaelic football/hurling


    QED and checkmate, boggers.

    Dear God, That has got to be the most pitiful and uneducated email I've read to date on the internet. (and thats some claim I know). Aside from the general theme (covered below) , the flippant references to the disgraceful abuse of children reflects poorly on you.

    Back to your theme:
    Your general ideaology is that just because we have something indigenous and unqiue to Ireland, then it must be naff and little worth. What do you base your Irishness on if it is not on the things that differentiate us from other countries? Do you view our natonal language similarily? Do you veiw your National anthem with the same contempt? Do you long for day when you can stroll down any Irish town and be restricted to only products/images available on UK or US highstreets.

    Despite being primarily a GAA follower with no day to day affliation to LOI team, being Irish meant that I took pride also in the achievements of the performaces of LOI clubs when in Europe. Shels vs Hajduk & Deportivo. Drogheda vs Dynamo etc. My view would be that well run LOI clubs are something to be greatly proud of instead of the over hyped money driven premiership. A well run LOI with successful teams would be something that could live in tandem with GAA and also would be something "Irish" to be proud of.

    I don't really expect a considered response and this mail is going against my general rule of
    "Don't argue with a fool. He will only bring you down to his level and then beat you with experience"
    but couldn't let your sad, uneducated little rant pass without some reply.

    Finally, its no wonder that Dublin City FC went belly up pennyless in 2006 if the likes of your good self were involved and, while holding/expressing your views, you were expecing people to come out and support them?

    PS
    Your use of QED is laughable and ironic. Based on your email, it is likely that you only know that if you put it at the end of an argument, it might strengthen your point. (run off,check and then tell me how you knew all along)

    It's Latin - a long since deceased day to day language. Its mandatory use in Irish schools decades ago was almost unique to Ireland. It too probably would have made your list back then as well. The phrase "QED and checkmate, boggers" was mind blowing and and suitable summary of your mindset.

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    good man rebus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheridan View Post
    List of things that are only popular in Ireland:

    Charlie Landsborough
    Fianna Fáil
    Cabbage
    Red lemonade
    Killinascully
    Sexual abuse by the clergy
    Gaelic football/hurling


    QED and checkmate, boggers.
    I'm interested in your interpretation of 'popular' here. If you meant 'widespread' then you are wrong, there have been many documented cases in a lot of countries, notably the US. However, if you meant - as I think you did in your other examples - 'widely-enjoyed', then your post is absolutely disgusting.
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    ...AND he forgot Chris Rea and David ****ing Gray!
    " I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebus2008 View Post
    indigenous
    Arguable, at least, in the case of GAA football. This sport is more about being anti-'foreign' than native.

    I think you can highly value a lot of things Irish -- hurling, trad music, the language, the literature -- and still take a critical stance on GAA football, its culture and some of its more ignoble practices. Things just get weird when Irishness is equated with GAAness of the footballing variety.

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    Gaelic football is just a horrible mongrel mess of a game. What can it best be comared to?: perhaps soccer without rules - or fifteen goalkeepers against fifteen goalkeepers. As a ball sport it lacks any semblance of guile, asethetic merit or intelligence. It's brutish and nasty in every way.

    Hurling often resembles a bunch of farmers in fancy dress hacking a rat to death... And you can't see the ball. As a spectator sport it's pointless.

    It's just tribal county loyalty that attracts people to GAA matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BohDiddley View Post
    Arguable, at least, in the case of GAA football. This sport is more about being anti-'foreign' than native.

    I think you can highly value a lot of things Irish -- hurling, trad music, the language, the literature -- and still take a critical stance on GAA football, its culture and some of its more ignoble practices. Things just get weird when Irishness is equated with GAAness of the footballing variety.
    What leads alot of LOI fans to believe that the vast majority of GAA people are anti foreign? I'm heavily involved and it isn't a character trait that I've noticed with the hundreds/thousands of people I've come across. - GAA people would be hugely proud of the sporting successes of Kevin Moran/Tadhg Kennelly/Gordon Darcy/Shane Horgan/Mick Galway (People who had the good sense to choose a career in "foreign sports over Gaa)For example, the vast majority has no issue with opening Croke Park. Unfortunately I can only surmise that its a view based on historical anecdotes, widely read tabloid rags and generalisations.
    I certainly won't tarnish the majority of LOI fans are being boorish louts based solely on the rare bit oif crowd trouble.
    Alot of LOI fans seem preoccupied with the Gah and its faults while the reverse has never been seen.

    As for hurling not being a skillful or spectator friendly sport - based loosely of farming led hit squads assisinating rats, unfortunately that view says more aboutyour good self that the sport itself. I guess some people take the time to acquire a taste for wine during their lives while stick with the firm belief that scrumpy jack is the best tipple on the market and never experiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebus2008 View Post
    What leads alot of LOI fans to believe that the vast majority of GAA people are anti foreign?
    I didn't say that. You said it was indigenous, but if you look at the lot of the rhetoric at the time of its founding, the main point seemed to be have been that it wasn't foreign.
    Quote Originally Posted by rebus2008 View Post
    As for hurling not being a skillful or spectator friendly sport - based loosely of farming led hit squads assisinating rats, unfortunately that view says more aboutyour good self that the sport itself.
    You seem to be attributing that to me, and I didn't say it (see my previous post on hurling). I'd appreciate it if you clarified that.

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    Rebus2008, not to blow my own trumpet or anything, but neither you nor any of your kind are going to get very far arguing semantics or linguistics or pretty much anything else with me, particularly if you don't know the difference between an email and a post.

    As for the other endearingly brave little have-a-go-heroes - quod scripsi, scripsi. And, if I may borrow a phrase from a prominent family on a neighbouring island, honi soit qui mal y pense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BohDiddley View Post
    I didn't say that. You said it was indigenous, but if you look at the lot of the rhetoric at the time of its founding, the main point seemed to be have been that it wasn't foreign.

    You seem to be attributing that to me, and I didn't say it (see my previous post on hurling). I'd appreciate it if you clarified that.
    Happy to clarify that. Apologies, if it linked you incorrectly. Included the ref to the original post (hurling assisantion squads) as indication that it wasn't yourself who made the reference.

    On the former point re:foreign points, it was founded 125years ago so present day members/association can hardly be held up on that. It was founded at a time very different from todays ireland. Certainly wouldn't argue the point that it was founded from a hard line nationalist view but aims/views chnage alot over a century.

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