Fair Play to the FAI

**pineapple stu** · 08/01/2009, 6:23 PM

I take it then your whinging about the FAI helping other clubs but not youz is retracted?

**SligoBrewer** · 08/01/2009, 6:36 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I take it then your whinging about the FAI helping other clubs but not youz is retracted?

I presume your talking to me..

**pineapple stu** · 08/01/2009, 6:50 PM

LeixlipRed.

**dcfcsteve** · 08/01/2009, 7:59 PM

The bottom line is that the FAI aren't child-minders.

The clubs who get themselves into financial problems in-turn only have themselves to blame. Fans pointing the finger at the FAI for being in some ways responsible or negligent is ludicrous.

Yes I know that licensing is supposed to stop a lot of the financial shenanigans that used to and still do go on, but the bottom line again is that clubs are responsible for the situation they put themselves in. The FAI can't save a club from itself if it's determined to go down a certain route, and there will always be loop-holes in any licensing system.

Then when clubs end up in financial schtook the FAI are stuck between a rock and a hard place : help keep clubs alive even when they've been run shambolically, or do nothing and effectively let them go to the wall. Neither is a good option to chose, but given the fact that the FAI'S job is football and the bad press the league has had for the last few years, I think they can be forgiven for trying not to let any more clubs hit the wall.

**Bald Student** · 08/01/2009, 8:14 PM

It's possible for the FAI and the clubs to both be in the wrong.

**pete** · 08/01/2009, 8:25 PM

Seems very likely the FAI will end up paying the additional wages for Drogs. IMO probably sets an unwarranted precedent.

What happens to Drogs next season if they need to use the FAI guarantee mid season?

**HarpoJoyce** · 08/01/2009, 8:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bald Student

It's possible for the FAI and the clubs to both be in the wrong.

I'll take my chances with the FAI.

Some individual supporters tend to change their opinions as they grow or insist on breaches of the law. Including requesting (criticising when they don't) intervening in clubs' situations when there is a decision already before the High Court.

After edit:

Originally Posted by pete;

Seems very likely the FAI will end up paying the additional wages for Drogs. IMO probably sets an unwarranted precedent.

What happens to Drogs next season if they need to use the FAI guarantee mid season?

Count, how many steps into the future have you gone? Is it three or four? In an attempt to post something determental about Irish Football.

**higgins** · 08/01/2009, 9:43 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

The FAI paid your transfer fees for you; what's the difference?

You are twisting things with that statement.
You know full well Shels owed the FAI money then and that prize money was withheld.

**higgins** · 08/01/2009, 9:56 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Their transfer fees were paid for them FFS. How much more help do you want?

Every time you're pulled up on something you move to more made up bull.

Did the FAI pay the transfer fee and Shels don't have to ?
On what basis did the FAI pay that transfer fee ?

Do you seriously think the FAI would have done Ollie a favour like that !!

**ndrog** · 08/01/2009, 9:59 PM

Originally Posted by pete

Seems very likely the FAI will end up paying the additional wages for Drogs. IMO probably sets an unwarranted precedent.

What happens to Drogs next season if they need to use the FAI guarantee mid season?

why is that very likely .what r u basing that on ? you know something i dont ?

**higgins** · 08/01/2009, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

but my point is to dismiss Shels fans' notions that this is an inconsistency on the FAI's part compared to what happened them. It's the exact same.

The cawley issue was well before the meltown at Shels anyway..

You're only posting about it in every secnd thread as you've run out of othe stuff to have a go at Shels over.

To compare the Shels and Drogheda cases is just silly.

Cork Drogheda and Shamrock Rovers are in the same pot for paying creditors less than 100%.

Shels done exactly what Bray Cobh Harps Athlone and probaly some more done this year in that they couldn't meet the payments through in full for the full season but paid it all back after the league finished.

I'm not saying one is right and one is wrong but it's not fair to compare Shels and Drogheda.

**blackholesun** · 08/01/2009, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by higgins

To compare the Shels and Drogheda cases is just silly.

Cork Drogheda and Shamrock Rovers are in the same pot for paying creditors less than 100%.

He is probably refering to how the mess was created, not how it was cleaned up.

The Drogs and Shels is very similar in that both clubs chased glory spending money supplied by builders while living beyond their means with a poor support considering their success!

bhs

**Celdrog** · 09/01/2009, 1:40 AM

I do stand to be corrected on this, but the CL money has not gone to the Drogs yet. It goes to the FAI to be distributed. They can use this for their guarantee.

Bear in mind this is the same FAI that 6 years ago told Drogheda United they had 24 hours to pay them �100,000 (when we owed them nothing) or we would be kicked out of the league and we were in far less trouble then than we are now.

In my mind the FAI is actually supporting the league, certainly more than they used to.
If the government can guarantee the banks what in the name of God is wrong with the FAI trying to keep some clubs going.

Lets kick Drogheda, Cork, Cobh, Athlone, Galway, Sligo, Boheminas out of the league. Would the FAI be responsible if they stood by while that happened?

**bellavistaman** · 09/01/2009, 2:50 AM

Ya fair play to the fai for what there TRYING to do for us, any other club would get 100% backing but not our twisted ****ing club.

**Dodge** · 09/01/2009, 9:15 AM

Originally Posted by blackholesun

The Drogs and Shels is very similar in that both clubs chased glory spending money supplied by builders while living beyond their means with a poor support considering their success!

Different though in that in Drogheda's case the builders had an active say in how the money was spent where as with Shels it was jus the Shels board that frittered away the money they raised from a land deal.

There's comparisons to other clubs though...

**pineapple stu** · 09/01/2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by higgins

Every time you're pulled up on something you move to more made up bull.

Can I just point out that the last time you accused me of making up bull was over my comment that Shels are still drawing down funds from Tolka and making losses. Both those comments have been subsequently verified in, respectively, the national press (source Shels) and a website run by a Shels fan (extratime).

Have you ever read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"?

Do you seriously think the FAI would have done Ollie a favour like that !!