The Motoring Industry & The Recession

Originally Posted by dahamsta

Please try to stick to facts from this point forward, as is the policy of the forum.

Technically, it's Off Topic, not Current Affairs.

But yeah, I think one thing, you think another, it's speculation both, so no bothers leaving it there and moving on.

Originally Posted by noby

It would take a lot more than €600 to persuade me to buy from someone at the side of the road as opposed to a dealer.

Illegal to sell from the side of the road too, among other things. It's something the Government are apparently going to start clamping down on.

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Illegal to sell from the side of the road too, among other things. It's something the Government are apparently going to start clamping down on.

I presume he meant it as a turn of phrase as opposed to literally at the side of the road which obviously would be illegal.

Was there a story last year about some guy renting out space in his field at the side of the road for private sales?

Mechanics will probably see increase in business as more people keep their older cars & look to maintain for a bit longer.

You have to register as a motor dealer to be allowed sell cars. Legally. Side of the road per se has nothing to do with it.

I don't see how exchange rates could possibly have anything to do with it.[/quote]

Because You or me or your cousin can go up North, buy a car at a base price less vrt and 15% vat in £ sterling. Bring into the south, pay VRT and 21.5% Vat and because of the exchange rate this amount will be less than the euro price in the Dublin forecourt!!

It worked the other wat about 5 or 6 years ago when english people came over here with a strong pound. They don't pay any VRT or Vat at all but when they land in Holyhead they just pay the Vat of 17.5% and an admin fee. This also amounted to less than the garage forecourt price in the UK.
Exchange rates have lots to do with it, and this counrty will have the bleakest year in our economic history this year. There is going to be massive depopulation over the next three years.

It's like time just looped back on itself.

emm, see what you mean, apols!

its just a pity america was no longer an option...

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Technically, it's Off Topic, not Current Affairs.

No it's not.

Boo!

You'd swear it was your forum or something.

I am but your humble servant!

Now, back on topic!

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

You have to register as a motor dealer to be allowed sell cars. Legally. Side of the road per se has nothing to do with it.

What about private sale?

Who do you register with? No that I don't believe you but can't see any reason to have this besides protectionism.

just one....... 09 g 263 in Athlone last Sunday night. Audi A 4. Looked the dogs.

Originally Posted by pete

What about private sale?

Not 100% sure. I bought my car off home; that's probably allowed, but certainly going to England, picking up a few cars, bringing them home to your garden and selling them is illegal.

Can't remember who you register with; SIMI possibly. I'll have a check see. It's never been enforced properly before, but I think there's pressure to enforce it now with garages struggling. Every bit helps and all that.

Edit - my google's gone wonky; doing a search for pages in Ireland and it's giving me how to register as a dealer in New Zealand and America. Have it in work somewhere.

09-D-19xx went out today (can't remember the xx)

Edit edit - here's info on applying for a trade licence. I think that's the one I'm looking for!

Just bought an 07 Mondeo 2.0 Zetec in UK this week for €7,500 and will pay €3,800 in VRT when I bring it over this weekend.

Flight over with Ryanair and boat back costing me €120.

Well done dotsy. Great to see Irish people knuckling down for a good bargain. We're going to see lots more of it in the months ahead, but for some reason a lot of Irish still don't seem to have grasped it.

adam

Originally Posted by Dotsy

Just bought an 07 Mondeo 2.0 Zetec in UK this week for €7,500 and will pay €3,800 in VRT when I bring it over this weekend.
Flight over with Ryanair and boat back costing me €120.

Sounds like a great deal. Any idea how much you would expect to pay here?

Originally Posted by Fr Damo

I don't see how exchange rates could possibly have anything to do with it.

Because You or me or your cousin can go up North, buy a car at a base price less vrt and 15% vat in £ sterling. Bring into the south, pay VRT and 21.5% Vat and because of the exchange rate this amount will be less than the euro price in the Dublin forecourt!!

It worked the other wat about 5 or 6 years ago when english people came over here with a strong pound. They don't pay any VRT or Vat at all but when they land in Holyhead they just pay the Vat of 17.5% and an admin fee. This also amounted to less than the garage forecourt price in the UK.
Exchange rates have lots to do with it, and this counrty will have the bleakest year in our economic history this year. There is going to be massive depopulation over the next three years.[/QUOTE]

You don't pay VAT when you import a second hand car from the UK (one of the benefits of being in the EU). You only have to pay VRT.

Originally Posted by pete

Sounds like a great deal. Any idea how much you would expect to pay here?

I have seen them for between €20k and €22K here for similar. You would get it cheaper for cash but it is still a huge difference.

Buying it from a reputable dealer around the corner from our UK office. Our company has bought 3 or 4 cars from them in the last few years and had no problems. They have a good reputation locally.

You don't pay VAT when you import a second hand car from the UK (one of the benefits of being in the EU). You only have to pay VRT.[/quote]

I know that but I was refering to a new purchase.

Seeing as the press and some public on about us un patriotic Irish people going to Newry or Enniskillen for basic shopping items and often stapels, etc why was this not such a big deal 2 or three years ago when RTE interviewed the throngs boarding flights to New York in persuit of shopping bargins before xmas? Wasn't this the same thing surely?

(ps, 242 miles today, midlands/cavan drogheda and back the M4 and not 1 zero 9 to be seen)

Originally Posted by Fr Damo

why was this not such a big deal 2 or three years ago when RTE interviewed the throngs boarding flights to New York in persuit of shopping bargins before xmas? Wasn't this the same thing surely?

Presumably OK so long as they flew Aer Lingus.