Rugby Union 2009

[DmanDmythDledge]

If his view of Cullen was obstructed.

I haven't seen footage yet which shows where Quinlan was looking. If he was looking at Cullen and could see what he was doing, then its anopen and closed case.

If not, then he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Pretty conclusive.

[Youths4Ever]

Y4E, look into flying over the day before to Liverpool/Manchester/Birmingham/London and staying in Glasgow. There's trains to Edinburgh every half hour from there.

Have a look on wikipedia and check what low cost airlines fly to Glasgow and Edinburgh from Europe. E.g. Hahn, Charleroi etc. The obscurer the better.

That should work out cheaper (if a lot longer).

thanks for the help almost sorted now all I need now is a ticket

[Macy]

So it's OK for Dublin people to support a British football team rather than an Irish one but not an Irish rugby team?

My point was that it shows that many Irish people will always go for the more glamourous/ successful option rather than support their local side, whatever the sport be that football or rugby. The Lunsters are just another example of glory hunters who'll come up with any old horse crap to justify going with the "better" option.

[OneRedArmy]

Pretty conclusive.

Agree, hadn't seen the second angle before.

[gspain]

and I am guessing that Munster players support LOI clubs in Munster

No but they didn't complain about people following a team from outside their area.

[Macy]

No but they didn't complain about people following a team from outside their area.

I'm not aware the leinster players did either?

[gspain]

I'm not aware the leinster players did either?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugb...y-1720736.html

[Macy]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugb...y-1720736.html

Fair enough, but very mild mannered, he hardly did a Reggie Corrigan on them.

[Shilts]

Shilts, What part of the name British and Irish Lions don't you get?

I'm getting plenty of unsolicited emails - British Lions Tours, British Lions Kit etc. Everybody outside the UK, basically the 3 southern hemisphere countries looks on the Lions as a British team.

Also, the kit has the colours of the four comprising teams - not a lot of green on it is there? (the tops of the socks! why bother?) !!!!

Great idea if you want to be part of the British Empire. And a lot in the IRFU do. But I think, we as an independant country shouldn't be a part of this outdated jingoism!

[joeSoap]

I'm getting plenty of unsolicited emails - British Lions Tours, British Lions Kit etc. Everybody outside the UK, basically the 3 southern hemisphere countries looks on the Lions as a British team.

Also, the kit has the colours of the four comprising teams - not a lot of green on it is there? (the tops of the socks! why bother?) !!!!

Great idea if you want to be part of the British Empire. And a lot in the IRFU do. But I think, we as an independant country shouldn't be a part of this outdated jingoism!

Shilts, this is a rugby thread where we have happily been discussing rugby related issues. I'm pretty sure all of us who contribute to it would like it kept that way. If you want to talk politics, open a thread about it in off-topic would you?

No offence meant, but can you please stick to the game and not the political history? Thanks.

[Dodge]

My point was that it shows that many Irish people will always go for the more glamourous/ successful option rather than support their local side, whatever the sport be that football or rugby. The Lunsters are just another example of glory hunters who'll come up with any old horse crap to justify going with the "better" option.

hardly an irish phenomenon though, is it?

[Macy]

hardly an irish phenomenon though, is it?

That it seems to be able to cross sporting boundaries, I'd say it is. It's certainly much more prevalent here imo, and the general acceptance of it certainly is. If you use examples in England, the bandwagonners are held in disdain, here using the Munster example it's something to be proud of.

[gspain]

That it seems to be able to cross sporting boundaries, I'd say it is. It's certainly much more prevalent here imo, and the general acceptance of it certainly is. If you use examples in England, the bandwagonners are held in disdain, here using the Munster example it's something to be proud of.

Man Utd draw huge support from all over England. Juventus draw huge support from all over Italy. Both would probably be at best equally supported with City and Torino in their own cities. It appears to be generally accepted in the UK and Italy too.

At least our rugby fans are supporting Irish teams as opposed to Wasps or Leicester.

[Macy]

Man Utd draw huge support from all over England. Juventus draw huge support from all over Italy. Both would probably be at best equally supported with City and Torino in their own cities. It appears to be generally accepted in the UK and Italy too.

Yeah, and what do you think United fans think of bandwagonners? No idea of Juve, but that's not true about city being equally supported in Manchester either.

At least our rugby fans are supporting Irish teams as opposed to Wasps or Leicester

If they're not following their local team for bogus reasons, it's not that different.

[Dodge]

That it seems to be able to cross sporting boundaries, I'd say it is. It's certainly much more prevalent here imo, and the general acceptance of it certainly is. If you use examples in England, the bandwagonners are held in disdain, here using the Munster example it's something to be proud of.

I'd agree with all of that

[endabob1]

Everybody outside the UK, basically the 3 southern hemisphere countries looks on the Lions as a British team.

Really, because I live in Cape Town and John Robbie (ex Ireland Scrum Half) is one of the main commentators here and he like all the rest of the Supersport commentators refer to the side as the "British and Irish Lions", all the adverts for the tour are for the "British and Irish Lions" the tickets state the games are for whomever V's "British and Irish Lions"
The UK media & Sky in particular seem to have a geography issue when it comes to who is British and who is not (they constantly refer to Northern Ireland as being British which it is not) but outside of them the rest of the world from my experience calls the team "The British and Irish Lions"

[tetsujin1979]

That it seems to be able to cross sporting boundaries, I'd say it is. It's certainly much more prevalent here imo, and the general acceptance of it certainly is. If you use examples in England, the bandwagonners are held in disdain, here using the Munster example it's something to be proud of.

read munsterfans.com, very little support for bandwagoners

[Dodge]

Really, because I live in Cape Town and John Robbie (ex Ireland Scrum Half) is one of the main commentators here and he like all the rest of the Supersport commentators refer to the side as the "British and Irish Lions", all the adverts for the tour are for the "British and Irish Lions" the tickets state the games are for whomever V's "British and Irish Lions"
The UK media & Sky in particular seem to have a geography issue when it comes to who is British and who is not (they constantly refer to Northern Ireland as being British which it is not) but outside of them the rest of the world from my experience calls the team "The British and Irish Lions"

Friend of mine was in Australia during the last tour there. He said that pretty much all the promotion there just called them "The Lions" and rarely mentioned Britain or Ireland.

[Shilts]

Shilts, this is a rugby thread where we have happily been discussing rugby related issues. I'm pretty sure all of us who contribute to it would like it kept that way. If you want to talk politics, open a thread about it in off-topic would you?

No offence meant, but can you please stick to the game and not the political history? Thanks.

I tried to open a separate thread joesoap HAHA. But some all powerful being called Pete closed it down because he said it should be in here. Can't win sometimes!

[Bald Student]

read munsterfans.com, very little support for bandwagoners

Is there much support for Niall Ronan?