PFAI Believes Drogheda Can Remain in Premier

[Dodge]

You're probably right, but I fail to see how the PFAI are representing those players that have been left unpaid, by coming out and defending the club like that.

In fairness he didn't defend the club. He said he hoped that there were 22 jobs available to pro footballers next year.

[CSFShels]

Which should be in the First Division.

[tiktok]

How the hell can the PFAI back Drogheda?

Who knows, they're certainly going head to head with CCFC. I'd imagine the reason is that as a union, they've canvassed the affected members (DUFC players) and those members have directed them to respond positively.

How are Cork allowed sign players?

There's no rule against us signing players.

Why is there no clear ruling on the deadling for payment of wages?

Because the FAI rulebook is a joke, nothing to do with any club who tries to adhere to the mess that it is.

Shels were relegated and rightly so but it is obvious that the rela reason behind our relegation was the total hatred and contempt people held for Ollie Byrne.

In your eyes (and those of LeixlipRed) you were rightly relegated, but those who rightly relegated you based their decision on hated of OB? Nonsense.

[diamond]

i'm not gonna get involved with the shels issue here, or the cork one, but concentrate on the drogheda one for the moment. this is the best bit of news we've had in ages. i personally spoke with a few of the players over the last few days and not only are they willing to come to an agreement, many of them want to stay with drogheda next season on a part time basis. the chairman vincent is the main reason for this. many of the players feel great loyalty to this club and man for everything they did get over the good times. now if players are willing not to accept wages owed surely its case closed. the club cannot be accused of withholding/not making payments if the players agree not to take the payments. the fans here have done a hell of a job so far in saving the club and we believe that united park WILL get a licence. It will limit capacity for fire safety reasons but it is not the worst stadium in the premier.
a few days ago even we were only hopeful that we'd have a club. but things are beginning to look up.......despite the craptonian begruggers

[tiktok]

...now if players are willing not to accept wages owed surely its case closed. the club cannot be accused of withholding/not making payments if the players agree not to take the payments.

I'd imagine it is case closed.
Plus it may enable your making a better offer to the unsecured creditors and the Revenue by virtue of the money saved.

[Knappagh Red]

If they don't pay Sligo Rovers the money they owe for Faz they shouldn't be allowed in the Premier Division

[tiktok]

If they don't pay Sligo Rovers the money they owe for Faz they shouldn't be allowed in the Premier Division

You're a creditor, you'll get the same % as the other unsecured creditors.
If they haven't paid for him I don't see why they should hold his registration though, Sligo should be challenging this and expecting him for pre-season training.

[Mr A]

But under licensing I think you have to have paid or settled transfer fees as well as wages.

[tiktok]

But under licensing I think you have to have paid or settled transfer fees as well as wages.

If, as an unsecured creditor, you agree to accept the % that DUFC will offer, then payment of that % will settle the transfer fee. That'd be my understanding of it, I don't think the High Court would allow you status as a preferential creditor over the revenue or the others DUFC owe money to.

[Dodge]

The high court doesn't have any bearing on FAAI club licensing though

[blackholesun]

The high court doesn't have any bearing on FAAI club licensing though

Exactly, all debts with other clubs must be settled. Sligo of course should never have released him unless the cash was paid in full upfront!

I think the chances of Drogs being let into the Premier next year are somewhere between 0-5%. Even if they manage to scrap out of examinership, surely the first division would be the best place for them to regroup after overstretching themselves for years!

bhs

[passerrby]

a club must have no payables due to players, clubs ,revenue and no tranfers payables due so on that basis in will be in default. but on the whole issue of where drogs will be next season if licensing award them a premier licence then it will be exposed as a farce and will lose any remaining credibility assuming it still has any.

[passerrby]

I think the chances of Drogs being let into the Premier next year are somewhere between 0-5%. Even if they manage to scrap out of examinership, surely the first division would be the best place for them to regroup after overstretching themselves for years!

bhs

BHS i have a fundamental problem with this firstly i do not wish any ill will to drogs but why should the first div be seen as a place of punishment if you are not licensing compliant but the clubs already there must be fully compliant

[pineapple stu]

Sligo of course should never have released him unless the cash was paid in full upfront!

But they needed to slash their wage bill at the time too.

why should the first div be seen as a place of punishment if you are not licensing compliant but the clubs already there must be fully compliant

Because (in my opinion anyway) licencing should never kick a team out of the league and out of existence. The worst punishment under it should be demotion to the lowest level of senior football (which is now the A League), regardless of how screwed up you are. And you don't get let up out of that until you're compliant.

[cheech]

The main point is that they CAN'T stay in the Premier as they still owed players money after 30th of November. Regardless if they now come to a settlement.

Why do you think the PFAI are being soooo sweet all of a sudden? 200K raised in a month that is why. I think McGuinness is playing them to ensure they get as much as they can for the players.

I agree fully with the last two posters. Really can't see them retain their Premier place.
If for some reason the FAI decide in their infinite wisdom to allow Drogheda stay in the Premier, I would expect legal action from the likes of Harps and Cobh who have both had their players paid by the deadline.

[pineapple stu]

If for some reason the FAI decide in their infinite wisdom to allow Drogheda stay in the Premier, I would expect legal action from the likes of Harps and Cobh who have both had their players paid by the deadline.

Problem with that is (a) under the new league agreement, clubs aren't allowed take legal action against the league and (b) even if they did anyway, they couldn't afford it.

[SMorgan]

If Drogheda United get a Premier Licence then the FAI may stop pretending that there are any regulations in place regarding participation in the Premier League. If Drogheda get a Licence then the whole licensing system is a complete joke.

Somebody came out with the statement that United Park is not the worst in the Premier League. It is the worst, by a country mile. Not enough seats, the pitch is too small, the distance between the boundary walls and the pitch are substandard and a whole host of other issues relating to access, lighting, event control, health & safety and security.

Is the FAI going to demand a minimum requirement or not?

Now the FAI let Drogheda away on the basis that they were lead to believe that there would be a new ground. Now let us see the basis on which they'll be allowed to stay in the Premier.

[Mr A]

I think the obvious solution to this issue is to relegate Dundalk to the A league.

[holidaysong]

i personally spoke with a few of the players over the last few days and not only are they willing to come to an agreement, many of them want to stay with drogheda next season on a part time basis. the chairman vincent is the main reason for this. many of the players feel great loyalty to this club and man for everything they did get over the good times.

Except for Fabio..

[diamond]

yeah...have fun paying the mercenary to sit in the stands after he gets a "sex injury" like he did for us!
keep on topic please or this thread will end like many others lately ruined by craptown fans talking crap