Down the Pan

[razor]

Originally posted by Neil
It's funny the way the "fans" at the back left of the Shed are only ever heard when things are going bad. Moaning ****s.

Very Harsh Neil, Very Harsh.
Where I stand in the Shed is irrelevant you can usually hear me every game,
whether it be good or bad, I pay my money and speak my mind.

I give credit where its due and am totally entitled to give out when things are bad.
Granted some of my pals in the Shed may be a tad more cynical than myself but everyone is entitled to their say.

I presume by putting the word "fans" in inverted commas its a mark of respect for those older & wiser members.

We'll put it down to a bad day in the office.

[Éanna]

Originally posted by RedX
I mentioned about Billy Woods ages back and got slated on here for it.I do not think he is good enough to be playing left back.Maybe cover on the wing but not in defence...

Even though at first i was happy to see Derek back i am now changing my mind.Its true we should never bring in players that are not better than what we got here and unfortunately he isnt.Alan Bennett was doing well in there and Derek has looked awkward and slow and very prone to mistakes since his return.

Kevin Murrays situation is strange.Bennett on the bench and has a lot more experience that playing Murray out of position and out of his debt in the centre.Isnt it important to make sure we get into Europe?

Whats going on with these Nigerians?Are they not good enough?If not get rid of them and stop wasting the clubs money and bring in a proper central midfielder.Something we have needed since Reynolds left

Spot on. As for the nigerians, I think they're gonna need a while- new country, new style of football, new everything really, they have to settle first.

As for what Neil said, I agree 100%. There's a certain group in that corner of the Shed who you never hear being positive. The only time they open their mouths is to bitch and whine. I know people have a right to their opinion, but I wish they'd give some credit when its due as well.

[niamh]

Derek is a good player but like every player has his strengths and weaknesses. Everyone has a bad performance and suddenly it was wrong to sign him again??
I don't think so. Derek's return has made the squad stronger. We need Bennett in midfield where neither Derek or Dan can play.
That's what I thought would happen but for some reason, i just didn't think of Kevin Murray!

[Dodge]

Originally posted by SÓCcfc
Adamson has the worse distribution of any keeper in the league, I'd say EVEN Pats fans would admit that.

Terrible. he's still the best keeper in the league though.

[thecorner]

every club seems to think they have the best keeper in the league

[Dodge]

Originally posted by thecorner
every club seems to think they have the best keeper in the league

No, most think pats have

[razor]

Originally posted by Éanna
but I wish they'd give some credit when its due as well.

I'm sure Pat Kelly is saying exactly the same thing.

[Éanna]

Originally posted by razor
I'm sure Pat Kelly is saying exactly the same thing.

LOL Touché In fairness, I did say nice things about his little boy after the cup final

[razor]

I should hope so, after he getting his hilites done specially and everything.

[Gary]

Originally posted by niamh
Derek is a good player but like every player has his strengths and weaknesses. Everyone has a bad performance and suddenly it was wrong to sign him again??

Piffle. he isnt a good player, no where near good enough to play in a team with European aspirations. The guy weakens our team. he is ok in the air, no better or no worse than Murray/Bennett/Napier/Deccie Daly. His distribution is woeful, his tracking is shít.

Yes, id have him in the squad, but not a first team regular. Has he played a good game since coming back? Ill think you'll find that the answer to that is NO!

[liamon]

Dunno bout that Gary,
Did he play well in any game since he came back?
He played well on his very first game back.
I think Derek is a lot stronger in the air than any of our other defenders.
But he is slow and can't pass the ball at all.
Benno might be a better option.

[niamh]

Originally posted by Gary
Piffle. he isnt a good player, no where near good enough to play in a team with European aspirations.

The guy weakens our team. he is ok in the air, no better or no worse than Murray/Bennett/Napier/Deccie Daly. His distribution is woeful, his tracking is shít.

Yes, id have him in the squad, but not a first team regular. Has he played a good game since coming back? Ill think you'll find that the answer to that is NO!

City are hardly playing like a team with European aspirations.
You'd prefer to see Daly back?? Napier is gone. Bennett is needed in midfield, where he came from btw.
His debut V Rovers. Did alrite against UCD until he was sent off. I haven't seen any recent games.

[Neil]

Originally posted by razor
Granted some of my pals in the Shed may be a tad more cynical than myself but everyone is entitled to their say.

True. But it's pathetic to hear "Dolan OUT"'s and booing of the players off the pitch after a bad result (and admittedly a poor display). Ever player out there gives 100% (we've long since got rid of people like Hartigan) and booing them off the pitch does no-one any good. The thing is if ye are really that upset with things at the moment yeshould be booing the players and shouting Dolan Out every game, not just after the poor results.

Redx, point taken, and I agree we're all entitled to our opinion. Only a few games left - lets get behins the team and..... See ya in Estonia or somewhere next summer!

[A face]

Originally posted by Neil
True. But it's pathetic to hear "Dolan OUT"'s and booing of the players off the pitch after a bad result (and admittedly a poor display). Ever player out there gives 100% (we've long since got rid of people like Hartigan) and booing them off the pitch does no-one any good. The thing is if ye are really that upset with things at the moment yeshould be booing the players and shouting Dolan Out every game, not just after the poor results

A point well made .... Razor, you have to admit.

[thecorner]

Originally posted by Gary
no better or no worse than Deccie Daly

this is a joke right

waiting for the punchline

[Neil]

Originally posted by Gary
Piffle. he isnt a good player, no where near good enough to play in a team with European aspirations. The guy weakens our team. he is ok in the air, no better or no worse than Murray/Bennett/Napier/Deccie Daly. His distribution is woeful, his tracking is shít.

Yes, id have him in the squad, but not a first team regular. Has he played a good game since coming back? Ill think you'll find that the answer to that is NO!

Have YOU ever anything good to say???

[Gary]

Hello Pot, my name is Kettle. Im very pleased to meet you!

[razor]

Originally posted by Neil
True. But it's pathetic to hear "Dolan OUT"'s and booing of the players off the pitch after a bad result (and admittedly a poor display). Every player out there gives 100% (we've long since got rid of people like Hartigan) and booing them off the pitch does no-one any good.

I don't have anything to do with the Dolan Out stuff, I believe in giving the man a chance, (even if he does turn out to be a bluffer)

My issue is that I don't believe some players are giving 100% and the only way that we have as fans of letting them and Dolan know we are not happy is vocally. If I think they've given their all then I'll let them know that too. It works both ways.

Ironically enough speaking of Hartigan, I saw him play at centre half for Avondale last Saturday and he was brilliant. Up front never really suited him but he looks so comfortable at the back.

[niamh]

He went to the back a few times for City though didn't he? Def once anyway towards the end of a game. I think Hartigan up front was trying to copy the Quinn/Cascarino tactic Ireland had. The problem was City had no Aldridge or Robbie Keane.

[thecorner]

Originally posted by razor
Ironically enough speaking of Hartigan, I saw him play at centre half for Avondale last Saturday and he was brilliant. Up front never really suited him but he looks so comfortable at the back.

big differnce between msl and loi