QuoteApparently the cattle tests have been "unfavourable" and they're going to have to take the affected herds out of the food chain (just on lunchtime on Newstalk)
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...3.html?via=rel
Bit of sensationalism in the UK press, particularly the mirror...surely there is case to sue the Mirror over these sort of headlines, its out of order.
Apparently the cattle tests have been "unfavourable" and they're going to have to take the affected herds out of the food chain (just on lunchtime on Newstalk)
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
not to mention bird flu/sars.Originally Posted by Ringo
China becomes latest country to ban Irish pork
http://www.breakingnews.ie/print/mhidsnqlmhid/
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2008_09_19/en/index.html
I know they have to, but this was the same country that allowed melamine into baby food
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1209/pork.html
Now beef as well? Jaysis knowing our luck, the turkey will be affected next. Ah well at least we've still the spuds.
'Fascists dress in black and go round telling people what to do, where as priests.....'
Oh don't apologise.Actually he wasn't, or rather he quit and started one of the first anti-tobacco movements. Sorry for being nerdly, I just read read it the other day.
Being a carniverous pack a day man has never felt so good.
I wouldn't be too sure about that.
Some Dodgy practices in the Agri business these days.
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Think he was talking about his own livestock as opposed to the country's
An organic pig farmer on the radio earlier. Making the point that all her meat 100% traceable and none fed by "compounds" She has customers asking when can she sell the stuff. She made the point that Trevor Sargent has championed the organic food sector in the past but failed to make the distinction this time.
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So beef is contaminated but it is safe to eat & no need to withdraw. Pork contamination is worse but safe to eat & needs to be withdrawn.
Clearly the traceability system is a mess. Apparently they can trace individual cuts of meat but for items such as sausages they can only trace to processor where it all gets mixed in together. That is a partial tracing system.
Italy had a similar scare with Mozzarella cheese. They banned exports from Italy while they sourced the problem. I feel the Irish government have handled this very badly & other countries particularly those outside the EU will use this as an excuse to ban Irish imports. Lets face the IFA & Irish government would do the same thing to say Brazilian beef.
This is a great example of State bureaucracy. The Dept of Agriculture run the tracing system? EPA gives licence to feed producer alongside local authority. FSA decides if food is safe? Dept of Health does...? Dept of Environment oversees the EPA? Who is in charge?
Could this be the straw that leads to government collapse?
I wonder will this be yet another case of the Teflon civil servants and politicians where no heads will roll?
Ireland's lack of personal accountability is staggering, both the in the public and private sectors.
well the rumour mill is in motion - a farm in Cavan was checked the other day for the quality of the beef - heard this twice last night
(could be rubbish though - probably)
anyway i am in my balls throwing out my rashers
ha ha jesus then i see this......................
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1209/pork.html
anyway i wouldnt trust a word they say on all this
by the way from the same source - heard a good few stories on some funny shenanigins (how do you speall that word!) going on in Bord Na Mona - re wastage of money, no work, loss making, etc but then thats another story
Very easy to see which businesses use non-Irish ham & pork now. Given the problems Belgian had in 1999 kind of ironic that local sandwich shop (Fresh) using ham from there. Didn't look too closely to see where it sources from but Tesco had selected cuts of ham on sale today - think it was the "Tesco Value" range.
The European Food Safety Authority has concluded that there is little concern for human health arising from the discovery of dioxin in some Irish pork.http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1210/pork.htmlProcessors have been demanding a multi-million euro package from the Government to assist them with the recall of pork products and with the storage of pig carcasses once processing resumes.
Tell the processors to open back up start selling again & stop looking for handouts
'Handouts' is a bit simplistic, though. The Govt. ordered the recall of all meat, at least 90% of which was perfectly safe, and the halt in processing. I think i would be looking to be compensated if it was me.
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No. But the Minister for Agriculture should be forced to resign over the scandal.
Last edited by mypost; 10/12/2008 at 2:46 PM.
Who made the actual decision, that's the question.
TBH I have never noticed him before but at a time when you need strong leadership Brendan Smith inspires no confidence & does not appear to be in charge. I heard one journalist on TV say the Minister was like a guy chairing a press conference (i.e. he decided who got to speak but said nothing himself). Seems the hardest thing government Ministers had to do in recent years was decide which car to buy each year but now they have real decisions to make.
Hundreds of jobs lost, pork businesses having to close, millions of € of perfectly edible stock lost (as a precaution). Irish Pork exports hit from China to Germany. And that's before we mention the knock-on effects on farmers, butchers and retailers here.
Somebody must be held accountable and be forced to resign for all that shameful waste. We have a Minister for Agriculture. This crisis happened on his watch, so he bears the overall responsibility for a lot of it imo, and therefore he must go imo.
Last edited by mypost; 10/12/2008 at 5:45 PM.
He is FF, they do not resign. Is the pork ban or the initial inspection failings the worse offence? Was it the Minister for Agriculture that initiated the ban?
Greens have been very quiet possibly because EPA reports to Minister for Environment.
Senior department officials must surely be the line for sacking for inspections failings & tracing system sham. None of these automatic performance bonuses.
That would be a bit pointless. The FSAI forced the government to recall the meat. Where does compensation stop? The consumers, the hotels, the retailers, the farmers? If the processers want to re-gain confidence of the consumers they should be putting it back out asap. One could argue that it’s the processers looking for cheaper meat that brought this about. At the moment the only one that should step down is Boss Hogg from the place that produced the bad feed.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1211/pork.htmlAgreement reached for pig processors
Thursday, 11 December 2008 07:20
Last edited by Ringo; 11/12/2008 at 6:49 AM. Reason: new news
So it is decided that pork producers now get 180m compensation from the tax payer.
Taken from RTE:
Those numbers do not add up. How can you get almost half the yearly revenue as a handout? The amount of products refund through retailers will be relatively small as few people will keep receipts. There will e almost no affect on Christmas market as fresh hams would not be sold yet anyway.The pork industry is the fourth biggest in the agriculture sector and is worth around €400 million per year.
Also the farmers are looking for E1m compensation for each affected farm. Pig farms must also have very high yearly turnover if that is correct.
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