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    Cahiers du Cinemas 100 Greatest films

    The influential French film magaziune Cahiers du Cinema has released its list of the 100 greatest list of films ever made. The list was drawn up by over 70 people involved in the French film industry. The List is as follows:-


    1. Citizen Kane - Orson Welles
    2. The Night of the Hunter - Charles Laughton
    3. The Rules of the Game (La Règle du jeu) - Jean Renoir
    4. Sunrise - Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
    5. L’Atalante - Jean Vigo
    6. M - Fritz Lang
    7. Singin’ in the Rain - Stanley Donen & Gene Kelly
    8. Vertigo - Alfred Hitchcock
    9. Children of Paradise (Les Enfants du Paradis) - Marcel Carné
    10. The Searchers - John Ford
    11. Greed - Erich von Stroheim
    12. Rio Bravo - Howard Hawkes
    13. To Be or Not to Be - Ernst Lubitsch
    14. Tokyo Story - Yasujiro Ozu
    15. Contempt (Le Mépris) - Jean-Luc Godard
    16. Tales of Ugetsu (Ugetsu monogatari) - Kenji Mizoguchi
    17. City Lights - Charlie Chaplin
    18. The General - Buster Keaton
    19. Nosferatu the Vampire - Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
    20. The Music Room - Satyajit Ray
    21. Freaks - Tod Browning
    22. Johnny Guitar - Nicholas Ray
    23. The Mother and the Whore (La Maman et la Putain) - Jean Eustache
    24. The Great Dictator - Charlie Chaplin
    25. The Leopard (Le Guépard) - Luchino Visconti
    26. Hiroshima, My Love - Alain Resnais
    27. The Box of Pandora (Loulou) - Georg Wilhelm Pabst
    28. North by Northwest - Alfred Hitchcock
    29. Pickpocket - Robert Bresson
    30. Golden Helmet (Casque d’or) - Jacques Becker
    31. The Barefoot Contessa - Joseph Mankiewitz
    32. Moonfleet - Fritz Lang
    33. Diamond Earrings (Madame de…) - Max Ophüls
    34. Pleasure - Max Ophüls
    35. The Deer Hunter - Michael Cimino
    36. The Adventure - Michelangelo Antonioni
    37. Battleship Potemkin - Sergei M. Eisenstein
    38. Notorious - Alfred Hitchcock
    39. Ivan the Terrible - Sergei M. Eisenstein
    40. The Godfather - Francis Ford Coppola
    41. Touch of Evil - Orson Welles
    42. The Wind - Victor Sjöström
    43. 2001: A Space Odyssey - Stanley Kubrick
    44. Fanny and Alexander - Ingmar Bergman
    45. The Crowd - King Vidor
    46. 8 1/2 - Federico Fellini
    47. La Jetée - Chris Marker
    48. Pierrot le Fou - Jean-Luc Godard
    49. Confessions of a Cheat (Le Roman d’un tricheur) - Sacha Guitry
    50. Amarcord - Federico Fellini
    51. Beauty and the Beast (La Belle et la Bête) - Jean Cocteau
    52. Some Like It Hot - Billy Wilder
    53. Some Came Running - Vincente Minnelli
    54. Gertrud - Carl Theodor Dreyer
    55. King Kong - Ernst Shoedsack & Merian J. Cooper
    56. Laura - Otto Preminger
    57. The Seven Samurai - Akira Kurosawa
    58. The 400 Blows - François Truffaut
    59. La Dolce Vita - Federico Fellini
    60. The Dead - John Huston
    61. Trouble in Paradise - Ernst Lubitsch
    62. It’s a Wonderful Life - Frank Capra
    63. Monsieur Verdoux - Charlie Chaplin
    64. The Passion of Joan of Arc - Carl Theodor Dreyer
    65. À bout de souffle - Jean-Luc Godard
    66. Apocalypse Now - Francis Ford Coppola
    67. Barry Lyndon - Stanley Kubrick
    68. La Grande Illusion - Jean Renoir
    69. Intolerance - David Wark Griffith
    70. A Day in the Country (Partie de campagne) - Jean Renoir
    71. Playtime - Jacques Tati
    72. Rome, Open City - Roberto Rossellini
    73. Livia (Senso) - Luchino Visconti
    74. Modern Times - Charlie Chaplin
    75. Van Gogh - Maurice Pialat
    76. An Affair to Remember - Leo McCarey
    77. Andrei Rublev - Andrei Tarkovsky
    78. The Scarlet Empress - Joseph von Sternberg
    79. Sansho the Bailiff - Kenji Mizoguchi
    80. Talk to Her - Pedro Almodóvar
    81. The Party - Blake Edwards
    82. Tabu - Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
    83. The Bandwagon - Vincente Minnelli
    84. A Star Is Born - George Cukor
    85. Mr. Hulot’s Holiday - Jacques Tati
    86. America, America - Elia Kazan
    87. El - Luis Buñuel
    88. Kiss Me Deadly - Robert Aldrich
    89. Once Upon a Time in America - Sergio Leone
    90. Daybreak (Le Jour se lève) - Marcel Carné
    91. Letter from an Unknown Woman - Max Ophüls
    92. Lola - Jacques Demy
    93. Manhattan - Woody Allen
    94. Mulholland Dr. - David Lynch
    95. My Night at Maud’s (Ma nuit chez Maud) - Eric Rohmer
    96. Night and Fog (Nuit et Brouillard) - Alain Resnais
    97. The Gold Rush - Charlie Chaplin
    98. Scarface - Howard Hawks
    99. Bicycle Thieves - Vittorio de Sica
    100. Napoléon - Abel Gance

    No Irish films in the top 100 although John Huston the Director of The Dead at Number 60 is of irish stock and the Film is from a Joyce short story, set in Dublin and features many Irish actors like if my memory is correct Donal McCann.

    The British Were very annoyed that not one purely British film made it into the Top 100 although many of the films mentioned have British actors, directors, scriptwriters and locations but not production companies which seems to be the deciding factor in nationality.

    The Following was taken from the Telegraph.

    The Telegraph say:
    The list in the publication Les Cahiers du Cinema features films from the USA, Germany, Russia, Italy and Sweden but there is no place for some of the biggest British directors including David Lean, Ken Loach and Peter Greenaway.
    British-born Alfred Hitchcock and Charlie Chaplin are both mentioned but only for the movies that they made in Hollywood.
    The nearest the British cinema industry comes to a mention is the 17th (equal) place given to 2001: A Space Odyssey, made in 1968, by the American director, Stanley Kubrick, partly with British money and with British technicians.
    The 1962 classic Lawrence of Arabia came seventh in a recent list of the best 100 movies drawn up by the American Film Institute in Hollywood but is perhaps the highest profile omission.
    Jean-Michel Frodon, the editor of Les Cahiers du Cinema, has pointed out that the lack of British-made films was “striking” but not part of any Gallic conspiracy:
    “It does not reflect an anti-British bias. It is simply the result of the individual choices of 76 people in the French industry. Each was asked to name their 100 best films and this was the result.
    Yes, it is surprising, maybe, that there is no Lawrence of Arabia, or no film by Ken Loach or Stephen Frears (The Queen).
    But there are many other national film industries which are also missing. There are no Brazilian films, for instance.”
    Some British films that should have made the list would surely include:


    That said, if you were to ask me what are the truly great British films of the last 20 years, then I would struggle to come up with one

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    No Jaws? What a film. Must have watched it 20+ time.

    Also, no Psycho? I know Hitchcock has other films in there, that was my favourite.
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    And you just know that they all sit around watching Old School on DVD half the time...

    Interesting list alright. I think Manhatten is the most modern?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    And you just know that they all sit around watching Old School on DVD half the time...

    Its very hard to think of a true classic that has been released recently though. I wonder what film(s) from now or the last few years will be remembered in twenty years time? It wont be any of the special effects films as they will be old hat, films like harry potter or The Lord of the Rings are in my opinion just fads.

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    I'd to do a double take when I saw "The General" at number 18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliodorus View Post
    Its very hard to think of a true classic that has been released recently though. I wonder what film(s) from now or the last few years will be remembered in twenty years time? It wont be any of the special effects films as they will be old hat, films like harry potter or The Lord of the Rings are in my opinion just fads.
    There's a couple of gems from the last 10 or so years that will be viewed as classics in the decades to come in my opinion. The Thin Red Line, 21 Grams, Usual Suspects, Cache, La Vita è Bella, Pan's Labyrinth, are some that come straight to mind, there's also movies that will be remember fondly and will be revisited by future generations I think, movies like Little Miss Sunshine, City Of God, Lost In Translation, Being John Malkovich, and Eternal Sunshine, and then there's often overlooked gems like Love Liza, Bamboozled, Dancer In The Dark and Sexy Beast that you would hope would find a new audience as the years go on.

    Plus I wouldn't be so sure that blockbusters like Saving Private Ryan, the Lord Of The Rings Trilogy, and the Bourne Trilogy won't be regarded as classics in 20 years time.

    Harry Potter won't be, solely because the movies have been disappointing to date, and given that they 5 movies in I fail to see how they can recover any level of reputation. Same with the new Star Wars trilogy, I think opinion of that will drop even lower in time

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    There's a couple of gems from the last 10 or so years that will be viewed as classics in the decades to come in my opinion. The Thin Red Line, 21 Grams, Usual Suspects, Cache, La Vita è Bella, Pan's Labyrinth, are some that come straight to mind
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    Hmm, Havent seen two of these films (21 Grams and La Vita è Bella). I just wonder will they stand the test of time. For me Cache wont - I found the film totally unengaging. I'm not sure either if the the Usual suspects stands up to repeated viewing, excellent film though it is. The Thin Red Line is Haunting but is it too similar in structure and tone to Badlands? Pans Labyrinth was one of my favourite films of recent years. I must watch it again.

    I couldnt believe that A Matter of Life and Death didnt make the top 100 films of all time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsXRx...eature=related

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    Think I have only seen 11 from that list.

    Can understand how our neighbours a bit miffed they don't have any entries. Of thise mentioned would have thought Laurance of Arabia would be included. As mentioned already no British classics in the modern era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Think I have only seen 11 from that list.

    Can understand how our neighbours a bit miffed they don't have any entries. Of thise mentioned would have thought Laurance of Arabia would be included. As mentioned already no British classics in the modern era.
    The Night of the Hunter which came second was directed by Charles Laughton. Hes english. Thats one hell of a film.

    Laughably, Ive never seen The Deer Hunter. I think Ive seen 24 from that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    , Lost In Translation,

    Plus I wouldn't be so sure that blockbusters like Saving Private Ryan, the Lord Of The Rings Trilogy, and the Bourne Trilogy won't be regarded as classics in 20 years time.
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    all a matter of opinion , but this list is better than what Channel four and the British progs and mags come up with

    by the way - has anyone see the movie Freaks - on the list?

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    Phew, that's a pretty pretentous list.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heliodorus View Post
    ...I wonder what film(s) from now or the last few years will be remembered in twenty years time? It wont be any of the special effects films as they will be old hat, films like harry potter or The Lord of the Rings are in my opinion just fads.
    Yes, the Lord of the Rings is a pretty poor story all told. Certainly, the novelisation is hardly considered any good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    ha ha
    all a matter of opinion , but this list is better than what Channel four and the British progs and mags come up with

    by the way - has anyone see the movie Freaks - on the list?
    Not saying they'll be considered the greatest, but they certainly won't be forgotten.

    Plus when it comes to movies who's to say whats a classic? I think a movie like 21 Grams is, but I could find you more people that think Saving Private Ryan is, I gaurantee you that.

    Can we dismiss the by far and away biggest grossing movie of all time (Titanic)so easily? I'm not so sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post

    Can we dismiss the by far and away biggest grossing movie of all time (Titanic)so easily?
    Yes, absolutely. Its cack. Complete and utter cack. In no way should 14 year old girls get to choose the greatest films of all time.

    And I'm no cine-snob (I would have Old School in my top 100 for example), but come on...

    I've seen Freaks. Bizarre, bizarre stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    Can we dismiss the by far and away biggest grossing movie of all time (Titanic)so easily? I'm not so sure
    Movies that make a lot of money shouldn't necessarily be excluded but suggesting Titanic be added it laughable. If you can't watch something at least twice then cannot be considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Movies that make a lot of money shouldn't necessarily be excluded but suggesting Titanic be added it laughable. If you can't watch something at least twice then cannot be considered.
    I'm not saying it should be added cause personally I find it sentimental drivel. What I'm saying is that if you took a poll of 100,000 people as to what the greatest movie is of all time and 14,000 said Titanic, whilst 3,000 said Citizen Kane then can we dismiss Titanic as a completely inferior movie?

    As some of you may have realised I'm a lot more democratic when it comes to movies than music or football teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Yes, absolutely. Its cack. Complete and utter cack. In no way should 14 year old girls get to choose the greatest films of all time.

    And I'm no cine-snob (I would have Old School in my top 100 for example), but come on...

    I've seen Freaks. Bizarre, bizarre stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    Not saying they'll be considered the greatest, but they certainly won't be forgotten.

    Plus when it comes to movies who's to say whats a classic? I think a movie like 21 Grams is, but I could find you more people that think Saving Private Ryan is, I gaurantee you that.

    Can we dismiss the by far and away biggest grossing movie of all time (Titanic)so easily? I'm not so sure
    I never go with the public - i mean wouldnt westlife then be considered one of the best of all time - not bad for a tribute band!

    No- listen to the critics, etc

    Saving Private Ryan has amazing action sequences, and a ready made story but the acting is woeful in it (only Sizemore comes out of it with any credit IMHO), and there is no real bounding amongst the soldiers that all war movies should have (think kellys heroes!)
    nah Apocalypse Now is the best war movie

    and Titanic - ha ha, man i found it impossible to watch all of that movie - turned it off after half an hour

    by the way strange that Kes didnt make the list

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    by the way strange that Kes didnt make the list
    Not strange at all. ****e film. Nice little book but generally speaking british kitchen sink dramas are dpressingly boring. One paced throughout.

    Oh, and don't listen to critics either bennocelt. Watch films and make up your own mind.
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    As Jebus rightly points out there have been a lot of excellent films released over the last 20 years or so. To name just 5 of my favourites.....

    Memento
    Amores Perros
    City of God
    Being John Malkovich
    Goodfellas

    I'd consider myself a bit of a film geek but have to admit I've probably seen only 20 of the films listed. I might try and track some of them down on lovefilm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Not strange at all. ****e film. Nice little book but generally speaking british kitchen sink dramas are dpressingly boring. One paced throughout.
    must disagree, loved it. certainly bleak but had a documentary-like realism that other films flail about trying to attain. tracy ullman was a guest on Turner Classic Movies in the spring and debuted Kes on that station. have to admit that some of the school scenes made me quite emotional thinking of growing up and going to school in donacarney! that said, best 100 movies of all time... well these lists are so subjective as to be futile if not outright ridiculous (i mean WHERE'S THE BLOODY SHINING!?)
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