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    Does the world feel a better place today? Not seeing any significant change in World Disasters....

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    Personally speaking I feel better today than yesterday. Obama can claim credit if he likes
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    Obamas policies on Israel/Palestine, real progressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Does the world feel a better place today? Not seeing any significant change in World Disasters....

    What are you confused about Pete? Did you expect him to stop earthquakes and floods?

    Just after reading his inauguration speech, and it is powerful stuff. That said, I'm sure that we could look back through speeches from other presidents and see similar grandiose comments. How will he follow up on things is the question.

    His first act - to halt the Guantanamo trials - was a positive step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Does the world feel a better place today? Not seeing any significant change in World Disasters....
    That's probably one of the dumbest comments I've seen you make on the site pete. Seriously, if that's what you're reduced to, give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Does the world feel a better place today? Not seeing any significant change in World Disasters....

    I agree. Only he could have prevented that vehicle accident in the South of France...

    As for all the volcanoes, what is his policy on them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red&White Rover View Post
    As for all the volcanoes, what is his policy on them?
    I haven't noticed him mention them yet. Doesn't seem to be on his agenda.

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    Obama retakes the Oath. Here

    Just to be on the safe side. Cutting the right wing nut jobs off at the pass if you ask me, even though he officially became president at noon on Tuesday, oath or no oath.

    From CNN...
    'The Constitution is clear about the exact wording of the oath and as a result, some constitutional experts have said that a do-over probably wasn't necessary but also couldn't hurt. Two other previous presidents have repeated the oath because of similar issues, Calvin Coolidge and Chester A. Arthur'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strangeirish View Post
    Obama retakes the Oath. Here

    Just to be on the safe side. Cutting the right wing nut jobs off at the pass if you ask me, even though he officially became president at noon on Tuesday, oath or no oath.

    From CNN...
    'The Constitution is clear about the exact wording of the oath and as a result, some constitutional experts have said that a do-over probably wasn't necessary but also couldn't hurt. Two other previous presidents have repeated the oath because of similar issues, Calvin Coolidge and Chester A. Arthur'.
    Bad start to his tenure ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Does the world feel a better place today? Not seeing any significant change in World Disasters....



    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    What are you confused about Pete? Did you expect him to stop earthquakes and floods?
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    That's probably one of the dumbest comments I've seen you make on the site pete. Seriously, if that's what you're reduced to, give up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Red&White Rover View Post
    I agree. Only he could have prevented that vehicle accident in the South of France...

    As for all the volcanoes, what is his policy on them?

    Ah come people .... That is one seriously big whoosh for all of ye, or we need to get a few SOH donors stat !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Bad start to his tenure ...
    Nah, nerves just got the better of both men. After all, they are human, aren't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    saying that an election promise to close Guantanemo immediately now isn't possible.
    On Sky News at the moment that he's signed an order to have Guantanemo closed in the next twelve months. Words are still cheap, but I'll take back the above comment. Paying too much heed to what's written in other people's tabloids on the train.

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    Is that in addition to the order stopping military tribunals in the camp for 120 days?

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    Think so, yeah. Possibly part of the same order.

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    He said he signed 3 orders, roughly from my understanding;
    1 was to ensure no torture,
    1 to close the prison inside a year &
    1 was to instigate the prosecution/suitable relocation of the inmates

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    Quote Originally Posted by endabob1 View Post
    He said he signed 3 orders, roughly from my understanding;
    1 was to ensure no torture,
    1 to close the prison inside a year &
    1 was to instigate the prosecution/suitable relocation of the inmates
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    This is all shadow boxing and purely for media consumption when the whole world is watching closely

    This is publicity management and not a whole lot else.

    I firmly believe that BO will be one of the great presidents but this is all shape throwing - closing gitmo is an easy win - low hanging fruit

    The real tests are to come - economy, iran, healthcare
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    He may change a few things on the surface, but nothing will change on any meaningful level. The US is still looking out for its own interests all the time, and if that means supporting a coup that kills hundreds of thousands again (ala Indonesia in the '60s) then that's what they'll do. Israel is still the Golden Child that can do no wrong, and will continue to be.

    Cynical, I know. I so want to believe in this guy, but my head over-rules my heart on this one.

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    He's been POTUS for 4 days lads, get real. If you want to criticise a President on actual performance, find a Bush thread and post there. There's lots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus View Post

    I firmly believe that BO will be one of the great presidents but this is all shape throwing - closing gitmo is an easy win - low hanging fruit

    The real tests are to come - economy, iran, healthcare
    It is truly ridiculous he hasn't got those three sorted by now. Obama out!

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