Tribune: FAI bans 30 in campdown on hooligans

**shefellover93** · 08/12/2008, 3:17 PM

Originally Posted by cheech

Specific for Derry?

Okay Shamrock Rovers fans getting battered in the Brandywell by your security.

Derry fans fighting fans in the Cat and Cage.

Specific in general?

There have been many many incidents this last few seasons with the schooligans from more than one club.

"yeah, when did you see it? I haven't seen trouble at a game in years and I support a team who supposedly has one of the worst problems. In fact the only thing that would come close to being called trouble I've seen at games was the Garda� almost kicking off a few times with their supposed "crowd control" measures."

Hill 16 Pub Rovers and Bohs fans.
Inchicore Rovers and Bohs fans bus wrecked, mini riot on street.
Bohs schooligans attacking buses that Rovers fans get from Tolka after their games.
Pats V Cork. Cork fan gets nose broke. Another gets split with rock while in Richmond Park.
Rovers fans attacking Section A in Dalymount Park.
Dundalk fans attacking Rovers fans outside Oriel Park.
Young Shels fan gets bottled nearly loses an eye by Bohs fan outside Tolka.
Young Bray fan gets badly beaten up outside Finn Park by Harps fans.
Bohs fans attack pub in Derry.
Rovers fans attacked outside ground in Limerick.
Rovers fan getting glassed in face in Horseshoe by Cork fan.
Young Harps fan gets nose broke outside Showgrounds by Sligo fan.

Thats just off the top of my head.

I'm not saying that hooliganism is widespread in the league because it is not. But it is there and to make a joke of it or to say it doesn't happen is not helpful.

Sorry m8, I stand outside the ground before and after all City games and not once did any violent incident ever occur

**sligoman** · 08/12/2008, 5:12 PM

Originally Posted by shefellover93

Sorry m8, I stand outside the ground before and after all City games and not once did any violent incident ever occur

Sorry 'm8' but that's actually not true.

**shefellover93** · 08/12/2008, 7:22 PM

Originally Posted by sligoman

Sorry 'm8' but that's actually not true.

Well sorry for using the word 'm8', no need to take offense

It is true, I stand directly outside the Horseshoe and have done for the last 4/5 years and not once has there been a violent incident, that's the truth and I think I'd know considering the fact that I was standing outside there. I mean if there were other incidents outside the front I imagine a crowd would have formed/something would have indicated that an incident took place. Maybe this incident was before that and in that case I apologize but it hasn't happened in the last 4/5 years and I can promise you that

**sligoman** · 08/12/2008, 8:30 PM

Originally Posted by shefellover93

Well sorry for using the word 'm8', no need to take offense

It is true, I stand directly outside the Horseshoe and have done for the last 4/5 years and not once has there been a violent incident, that's the truth and I think I'd know considering the fact that I was standing outside there. I mean if there were other incidents outside the front I imagine a crowd would have formed/something would have indicated that an incident took place. Maybe this incident was before that and in that case I apologize but it hasn't happened in the last 4/5 years and I can promise you that

I know of at least 2 seperate incidents that happened to Rovers fans around Turners Cross last month. I don't have proof to link to here so not going into detail on them but whether you choose to believe it or not is irrelevant, it happened.

**brianw82** · 08/12/2008, 8:59 PM

I don't have proof to link to here so not going into detail on them but whether you choose to believe it or not is irrelevant, it happened.

This is the problem. What do people here accept as 'proof'? Does it have to be reported in the papers? Pictures of injuries? Incidents caught on tape?

95% of all these incidents are one guy saying 'I seen this' and another saying 'I don't believe ya, where's the proof?' and it just goes round and round.

A bit like most threads on foot.ie, in fact.

**sligoman** · 08/12/2008, 9:44 PM

Originally Posted by brianw82

This is the problem. What do people here accept as 'proof'? Does it have to be reported in the papers? Pictures of injuries? Incidents caught on tape?

95% of all these incidents are one guy saying 'I seen this' and another saying 'I don't believe ya, where's the proof?' and it just goes round and round.

A bit like most threads on foot.ie, in fact.

, I wouldn't normally comment but for the fact that shefellover is stating with such fact that nothing happened in Cork in the last 5 years when I know that's not true.

I could say here that no crowd incidents happen at the Showgrounds too but why deny that things do? Rarely, and generally nothing serious but stuff still happens.

**shefellover93** · 08/12/2008, 9:57 PM

Actually if you read my post I said nothing happened outside the Horseshoe fact. I didn't deny that nothing happened around Turners Cross, I know that incidents happen there very rarely, same with every ground, and the problem with this article in the first place is that fact that it's sensationalizing these incidents and pretending that it's a major problem. Something that I think we all can agree is definitely not true

**A face** · 08/12/2008, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by shefellover93

Well sorry for using the word 'm8', no need to take offense

It is true, I stand directly outside the Horseshoe and have done for the last 4/5 years and not once has there been a violent incident, that's the truth and I think I'd know considering the fact that I was standing outside there. I mean if there were other incidents outside the front I imagine a crowd would have formed/something would have indicated that an incident took place. Maybe this incident was before that and in that case I apologize but it hasn't happened in the last 4/5 years and I can promise you that

There was an incident inside the bar about 7-8 years ago, before Rovers fans were barred. I think thats what he was on about. To be honest i think its a poor argument if you're going that far back to prove a point, so much so that it dilutes the point(s) being made to the extent that the argument should not even be entertained.

**sligoman** · 08/12/2008, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by A face

There was an incident inside the bar about 7-8 years ago, before Rovers fans were barred. I think thats what he was on about. To be honest i think its a poor argument if you're going that far back to prove a point, so much so that it dilutes the point(s) being made to the extent that the argument should not even be entertained.

You referring to me? When I say Rovers I mean Rovers, not Shams. And it was last month, not 7-8 years ago. But don't let the Rebel Army glasses affect yer eyesight A face

**A face** · 08/12/2008, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by sligoman

You referring to me? When I say Rovers I mean Rovers, not Shams. And it was last month, not 7-8 years ago. But don't let the Rebel Army glasses affect yer eyesight A face

Post # 122 Cheech is quoted and its that that i am referring to, and last month ..... what happened there and how come no one has heard anything about it only in this thread.

**cheech** · 09/12/2008, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by A face

There was an incident inside the bar about 7-8 years ago, before Rovers fans were barred. I think thats what he was on about. To be honest i think its a poor argument if you're going that far back to prove a point, so much so that it dilutes the point(s) being made to the extent that the argument should not even be entertained.

Look it wasn't 7-8 years ago but I'm not going to get into an debate about the timeframe. The guy has serious facial scars for life, so if you think that it is a 'poor argument' then that is your perogative.

My wife works in the Mater Hospital with the Rovers fans friend. That is how I know about the incident.

Someone asked me to name serious incidents and I named a few off the top of my head.

Everyone jumped on a point I made, including yourself until it was pointed out that for everyones belittling and pontificating at me, you were all agruing about something I hadn't even said. Your absence (like the rest of the firing squad) from the thread since speaks volumes.

I will make my point one last time.

The newspaper article was poor and I wasn't defending it. I was responding to peoples reactions to it where posters were claiming that there is no trouble in our utopian league. We all know there is so what is the point in denying it?

**OneRedArmy** · 10/12/2008, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by cheech

There have been many incidents in our league over the past 5 years.

You may want to re-interpret your understanding of the word "many" in the context of your view on the next quote...

Originally Posted by cheech

Do you think that there is a hooligan problem in England? Obviously not as there is very rarely - more rarely than here maybe - trouble in or around the grounds in England.

You insinuated Irish football had a greater problem that England and you were wrong. Plain and simple, wrong. Therefore save the crying that you are somehow being victimised for delivering an inconvenient truth.

Originally Posted by cheech

I will make my point one last time.

The newspaper article was poor and I wasn't defending it. I was responding to peoples reactions to it where posters were claiming that there is no trouble in our utopian league. We all know there is so what is the point in denying it?

Who claimed there was no trouble? Come on, back up your post by provding quotes.

Yes, there have been isolated incidents in Ireland, but the newspaper article was sensationalist and as a comparator Ireland still has much less football related violence than the vast majority of European countries (including England).

The reason people aren't posting any more is because the substance of your post was proved incorrect.

**celticV3** · 10/12/2008, 1:36 PM

Can everyone not agree that the article is a load of sh!te. There is a schooligan problem at every club except ucd and that more needs to be done to stop the little rats attaching themselves to the clubs.

**jebus** · 10/12/2008, 4:57 PM

Originally Posted by celticV3

Can everyone not agree that the article is a load of sh!te. There is a schooligan problem at every club except ucd and that more needs to be done to stop the little rats attaching themselves to the clubs.

Limerick doesn't have a schooligan problem, neither does Monaghan for one, or Wexford, the Kildare crowd aren't what I'd call schooligans, just annoying kids, will Mervue have them?

**BohsPartisan** · 10/12/2008, 8:46 PM

Originally Posted by cheech

Thank you man.

You voice an opinion and you are ridiculed. People think you are saying something else, put you down and dance all over your grave.

Even on the internet people don't like getting things wrong.

**dcfcsteve** · 11/12/2008, 9:26 AM

Originally Posted by cheech

Even on the internet people don't like getting things wrong.

And no better example than yourself.

'Cry me a river...'

**cheech** · 11/12/2008, 5:17 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

And no better example than yourself.

'Cry me a river...'

Yawn. You again? Enough crying of rivers about your town from you on the Derry forum. You are as popular as Pat Fenlon with your own fans so don't expect other fans to pay any attention to you when Derry supporters don't.

At least it wasn't your usual self indulgent rubbish all the same.

Thanks for the brief respite.

**cheech** · 11/12/2008, 5:18 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

Good man. I enjoyed that.

Didn't think you would have the time, what with world domination to complete and 4 million euros to come by....

**celticV3** · 11/12/2008, 5:57 PM

This is a hooligan problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvtZYJg2VFE

We most certainly have a problem with young fellas after watching the football factories and green street mixed with hormones.

**Lim till i die** · 11/12/2008, 6:57 PM

Originally Posted by celticV3

This is a hooligan problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvtZYJg2VFE

We most certainly have a problem with young fellas after watching the football factories and green street mixed with hormones.

That is a few dozen pussies being held back by two stewards.

Hooligan = Coward

Also, why is dutch music sooooo universally awful