FAI Meet Clubs to Discuss Wage Sanctions

**Longfordian** · 02/12/2008, 3:56 PM

I think it's the back money the players are owed for the period they were in examinership and on 30%-50% wages.

**R�iteoir** · 02/12/2008, 6:25 PM

Originally Posted by Sniffer

The 'just one league' idea is a complete non-runner; gap between top and bottom is waaay too big, even allowing for next season's cutbacks.

It'll look even more sillier if the FAI demote (for arguments case) - 5 or 6 out of the existing 10 Premier sides - find out that they've only got 2 or 3 clubs that could take their place AND gain a Premier Licence.

How stupid would it look if we ended up with a 6 team Premier Division next season?

**micls** · 02/12/2008, 6:57 PM

The money we owe in wages is the backpay from when the players took the paycut. The players have been payed in full since Coughlan got control

**CSFShels** · 02/12/2008, 7:24 PM

If we don't get promoted now I'll go crazy.

**OneRedArmy** · 02/12/2008, 7:53 PM

Originally Posted by micls

The money we owe in wages is the backpay from when the players took the paycut. The players have been payed in full since Coughlan got control

Then they aren't actually owed the money as it was expunged as part of exiting examinership (surely?) along with whatever the other creditors decided to accept

Originally Posted by CSFShels

If we don't get promoted now I'll go crazy.

Yeah, because Shels are a beacon of financial probity for the rest of the League to aim at...

**micls** · 02/12/2008, 8:07 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Then they aren't actually owed the money as it was expunged as part of exiting examinership (surely?) along with whatever the other creditors decided to accept

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The players payment was deferred, they were not part of the group of creditors that were paid 7.5% had they been we would be automatically excluded from a premier license afaik.

**OneRedArmy** · 02/12/2008, 8:09 PM

Originally Posted by micls

The players payment was deferred, they were not part of the group of creditors that were paid 7.5% had they been we would be automatically excluded from a premier license afaik.

Ah right.

So they have taken pay cuts going forward but are still owed backpay at their old wage rate?

**micls** · 02/12/2008, 8:12 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Ah right.

So they have taken pay cuts going forward but are still owed backpay at their old wage rate?

Yeah.

So far Mathews, Gamble and Behan have taken cuts.

Only 5(i think) more players under contract carrying on from last year. Hoggy signed a new deal today, Id imagine that involved a pay cut too

**CSFShels** · 02/12/2008, 8:37 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Yeah, because Shels are a beacon of financial probity for the rest of the League to aim at...

We're paying our players and complying with all licencing requirements to my belief. We're also the highest placed First Division side that haven't already been promoted. Harps and Cobh certainly don't look like being given the spot with their wage problems being as bad as if not worse than the teams in question (except Drogs). We won't be promoted but we should be if the FAI were to have the backbone to follow their own rules.

**Sam_Heggy** · 02/12/2008, 8:47 PM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

We're paying our players and complying with all licencing requirements to my belief. We're also the highest placed First Division side that haven't already been promoted. Harps and Cobh certainly don't look like being given the spot with their wage problems being as bad as if not worse than the teams in question (except Drogs). We won't be promoted but we should be if the FAI were to have the backbone to follow their own rules.

Where are you getting your info about Harps?

Players are all sorted and we have complied with the Licencing requirements should we be invited into the Premier Divison so don't worry buddy, unless 2 clubs go bust / get relegated you won't have to worry about the Premier division for another while.

All in all no need to "go crazy"

**CSFShels** · 02/12/2008, 9:03 PM

The Sun today was my source. Not exactly reliable, but they're surely getting their info from somewhere.

**Lim till i die** · 02/12/2008, 9:29 PM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

We're paying our players and complying with all licencing requirements to my belief.

I would find that very hard to believe.

Not picking on Shels mind, I'd say you could count the number of fully compliant clubs on the fingers of one, badly mangled, hand.

My point being, they would have excuses not to promote ye if they wanted to.

**CSFShels** · 02/12/2008, 10:56 PM

Well apparently it is an independent licencing committee. Seriously though, its a disgrace if clubs who have broken this deadline, are given Premier licences. Precedents need to be set.

**holidaysong** · 02/12/2008, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by R�iteoir

How stupid would it look if we ended up with a 6 team Premier Division next season?

It'd be better than letting all those clubs off the hook by abolishing the league structure..

**CSFShels** · 02/12/2008, 11:17 PM

Exactly. There is no way these clubs should be allowed away with not paying their players.

**GalwayRed** · 02/12/2008, 11:52 PM

Was just wondering if drogheda united do go bust which team gets offered the premier division licence? shels or harps? Not sure of the rules on this.

**CSFShels** · 03/12/2008, 12:00 AM

Think it is Harps based on what has gone on in other leagues, but I don't think there is any set procedure for it in the League Of Ireland.

**Ram72** · 03/12/2008, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by GalwayRed

Was just wondering if drogheda united do go bust which team gets offered the premier division licence? shels or harps? Not sure of the rules on this.

Well if Drogheda do go bust, the place should go to the highest ranking team that has not broken the licence rules. That would either be shels or ucd.

**higgins** · 03/12/2008, 1:58 AM

Originally Posted by micls

The money we owe in wages is the backpay from when the players took the paycut. The players have been payed in full since Coughlan got control

I don't mean to go back to old topics but did I not ask if Tom got his hands on your club for next to nothing and was told no ?

So here we are today when creditors only got 7.5%. Tom has cashed in on Doyle and picked up prize money for the league and Setanta and you still owe players money ?

So Tom has put nothing in effectively ??
Or very little it seems..

It still doesn't look good for you.
Are FORAS involved yet ?

**Student Mullet** · 03/12/2008, 2:02 AM

Originally Posted by higgins

I don't mean to go back to old topics but did I not ask if Tom got his hands on your club for next to nothing and was told no ?

So here we are today when creditors only got 7.5%. Tom has cashed in on Doyle and picked up prize money for the league and Setanta and you still owe players money ?

So Tom has put nothing in effectively ??
Or very little it seems..

It still doesn't look good for you.
Are FORAS involved yet ?

higgins is the new Pineapple Stu.