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    Ganley suing RTE.

    Ganley finally lost patience with RTE,hes suing them,nice one.Programs like Prime Time cant be given free reign to apparently say what they like about someone.

    http://www.rte.ie/aertel/114-01.html

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    My response on being told this earlier:

    What's he suing them for, an inability to conduct rudimentary investigative journalism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta View Post
    My response on being told this earlier:

    What's he suing them for, an inability to conduct rudimentary investigative journalism?

    adam
    There's definite precedent there!

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    (I didn't see the show, just heard about it here. So my point was that, if anything, they didn't go far enough.)

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    Lawyers acting on behalf of Mr Ganley have recently sent legal letters to Fine Gael MEP Jim Higgins and Labour TD Joe Costello about comments they claim are "unlawful, unjustified and a gross slur on our client's good name and character".

    The letters advised both politicians that they should offer a public apology within seven days and also make a substantial donation to a charity of Mr Ganley's choosing.

    At the time, Mr Higgins told the Irish Independent that he was determined to defend himself.

    Given that Libertas is now registered as a political party, the MEP said that the organisation should recognise that "much of what happens in the political sphere invariably involves political charges and counter charges".

    "If Mr Ganley pursues this matter any further, I am determined to steadfastly defend myself," he said.
    Ganley might regret this one. Everyone will be out to dig up dirt on him now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eamo1 View Post
    Ganley finally lost patience with RTE,hes suing them,nice one.Programs like Prime Time cant be given free reign to apparently say what they like about someone.
    http://www.rte.ie/aertel/114-01.html
    I can't see what grounds he has for legal action. It may not have been a great programme but RTE had numerous interviews backing up each query. They had strange eastern european characters but they also had americans supporting Ganley. The fact that Ganley was unwilling to answer questions made it a little difficult for RTE. Always looks suspicious when Politicians start suing the media.

    Seems he had no problem when RTE gave him a platform via One to one interview the week before the Prime Time program.

    http://www.forastrust.ie/

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    It has the effect of silencing RTE for the duration of the legal action.

    One thing I've noticed about the man is that he seems to have a very short term outlook. He was misleading about his money in the lead up to the referendum knowing that he'd be found out soon afterwards. I suspect the same thinking is going on here, he'll keep RTÉ quiet for a year or so with this but the cac will hit the fan if he ever sits in a witness box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Student View Post
    One thing I've noticed about the man is that he seems to have a very short term outlook. He was misleading about his money in the lead up to the referendum knowing that he'd be found out soon afterwards.
    That would have worked if he was satisfied with Lisbon defeat. However he now has plans for pan-Europe party so fairly predictable people will ask questions about him. He is very naive if he expected political rivals & media across Europe not to ask questions about an Irish businessman setting up a party (or at least an affiliate) in their country when he has little or no business interests in Ireland.

    RTE should have described him as Irelands Olighark
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    I think the wider public aren't the least bit bothered how Ganley funded his campaign. For decades now, politicians and other leading figures have been on the take, even Father Ted had a long-running skit on Ted's "Lourdes" Account.

    Seriously though, people are sick of hearing, and listening to stories of financial irregularities, they're fed up with tribunal after never-ending tribunal. What people want to know is how are the health, transport, job crisis etc, going to be tackled, by those responsible for tackling them. That's what licence-payers pay RTE good money to investigate the government on, not whether Declan Ganley raised his funds in America or Albania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    I think the wider public aren't the least bit bothered how Ganley funded his campaign. For decades now, politicians and other leading figures have been on the take, even Father Ted had a long-running skit on Ted's "Lourdes" Account.

    Seriously though, people are sick of hearing, and listening to stories of financial irregularities, they're fed up with tribunal after never-ending tribunal. What people want to know is how are the health, transport, job crisis etc, going to be tackled, by those responsible for tackling them. That's what licence-payers pay RTE good money to investigate the government on, not whether Declan Ganley raised his funds in America or Albania.
    But the two are related. One of the main reasons we have crap transport systems in this country is because politicians in west Dublin were on the take, giving planning to cheap housing in exchange for a few bob. Equally, one of the main reasons we have a terrible health service is because it was cut apart to save money at a time when billions of pounds were hidden away from the tax man.

    Keeping an eye on where politicians get there money is an important part of running a country.

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    Well said MyPost.

    Well said mypost and also if Ganley hadnt sued then guys on here would be asking "well if RTE were wrong then why isnt he suing them"?.Hes a threat to the establishment and they want to bring him down.If this was Russia Ganley would have a bullet in his head or poison in his meal or lets just say i wouldnt want to start his car in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    That would have worked if he was satisfied with Lisbon defeat.
    That's another thing about him that I haven't seen written down anywhere.

    He said during the campaign that he had no definite plans to continue Libertas as a political party, that he'd decide that after the event whether to wind it up or not. He's also claiming to have a repayment schedule for the loan he gave which must involve some form of regular income for Libertas after the referendum. There seems to be a contradiction between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Student
    Keeping an eye on where politicians get there money is an important part of running a country.
    The most important part of running a country is getting on with the job of running the country, not to get bogged down in who spent what, when, where, and why.

    From what I've seen and heard, there is no illegal evidence as yet that nails Ganley. All there is is rumour and counter-rumour about his business practices.

    There are 4,000 people losing their jobs per week. Those responsible for that situation should be held to account. There are frankly far more urgent issues facing the country now, than the state of Dec's finances.
    Last edited by mypost; 05/12/2008 at 5:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    I think the wider public aren't the least bit bothered how Ganley funded his campaign.
    Indeed, which is why this country is where it is today. If the media and people like yourself asked a few more pertinent questions of our politicians instead of blindly following them like starstruck sheep we might have a few less shysters and liars in government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    From what I've seen and heard, there is no illegal evidence as yet that nails Ganley. All there is is rumour and counter-rumour about his business practices.
    From what I've seen and heard, there's no legal evidence that nails Bertie, Charlie Haughey, Liam Lawlor or any other number of people that did wrong by this country. It's perfectly correct for RTÉ to look into these people and doing so doesn't help or hinder the task of finding new jobs for the country.

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    For anyone who watched the Prime Time show can they tell me what in that program was false or Ganley might object to?



    IMO like most Primetime "investigations" I have watched they seem to be just presenting the information that is already available elsewhere.
    http://www.forastrust.ie/

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    Ganley fails to provide clarity on Libertas loan

    THE ANTI-LISBON Treaty campaigner Declan Ganley has not responded to a request for information from the Standards in Public Office Commission in relation to a loan he has said he gave to Libertas during the recent referendum.He also said his loan to Libertas "involved a detailed legal agreement with a repayment plan in accordance with commercial lending norms and signed in accordance with the relevant section of the electoral acts".
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...515635297.html

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    I don't mind saying it in public: This man definitely has something to hide.

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    Not a show I ever watch but caught Ganley on TV3 Politics show. He got a fairly good grilling even though he would not discuss what parts of the Prime Time show he was suing on. He claimed he could not discuss because they were part of an ongoing legal writ. Handy way of avoiding questions.
    http://www.forastrust.ie/

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