Cup Final - Second Goal Offside?

**joe** · 26/10/2003, 4:39 PM

Not to detract from the match or the officials performance, both of which were good, but wasn't Longford's second goal offside?

**A face** · 26/10/2003, 5:16 PM

Originally posted by joe
Not to detract from the match or the officials performance

Joe .... you're detracting from the match or the officials performance !!

**pineapple stu** · 26/10/2003, 6:11 PM

Originally posted by joe
Not to detract from the match or the officials performance, both of which were good, but wasn't Longford's second goal offside?

Wasn't he in his own half when the ball was played to him? If so, he can't have been offside.

Sheridan · 26/10/2003, 6:26 PM

Originally posted by pineapple stu
Wasn't he in his own half when the ball was played to him? If so, he can't have been offside.

Barrett was WELL inside the Pat's half when the ball was passed. The only issue is whether more than one Pat's defender was also in the half at the time. If there are fewer than two of the defending team's players in their own half, the offside rule is void.

**Slash/ED** · 26/10/2003, 8:58 PM

He looked well offside to me, didn't matter too much I don't think Pats would have scored in the 20 or so seconds left. Longford deserved the win.

**brendy_�ire** · 26/10/2003, 9:07 PM

Really, does it matter? Pats weren't going to score, there were only a few seconds left. The match was basically over. Longford deserved the win. Fair play to them.

**joe** · 26/10/2003, 9:19 PM

of course it doesn't matter, but i was just wondering if it was offside and, if so, how come none of the 'experts' commenting on the match spotted it. that's all

**MariborKev** · 26/10/2003, 10:07 PM

Dolan- expert

There's a laugh

Next you'll be telling me he was impartial as well

**trulan** · 27/10/2003, 3:56 PM

"Barrett was WELL inside the Pat's half when the ball was passed. The only issue is whether more than one Pat's defender was also in the half at the time. If there are fewer than two of the defending team's players in their own half, the offside rule is void."

It was 2 on 1 in longfords favour in Pat's half of the field when the ball was passed!!!

**�anna** · 27/10/2003, 5:03 PM

longford should have scored 4 or 5 anyway

Sheridan · 27/10/2003, 5:06 PM

Originally posted by trulan
It was 2 on 1 in longfords favour in Pat's half of the field when the ball was passed!!!

Then it wasn't offside.

**patsh** · 27/10/2003, 6:48 PM

Well there was a referee on SportsCall on RTE radio saying it was offside!
There was only one SPA defender in his own half, thus it was offside.
When can we expect to see you dressed in black, with a whistle and two watches Joe?

**joe** · 27/10/2003, 8:19 PM

Originally posted by patsh

When can we expect to see you dressed in black, with a whistle and two watches Joe?

when the devil skates to work

**Ref** · 27/10/2003, 8:38 PM

joe,

i didn't get to see the match.

describe the incident for me.

**gspain** · 28/10/2003, 11:25 AM

Goalkeeper was in the other penalty box hence the confusion.

Shane Barrett was in opposing half - one defender between him and goal when it was played to him.

Blatant offsid eto me as goialkeeper misisng but easy one to miss and linesman normally forgets about the keeper.

I'm not aware of any rule stating that the defending team must have 2 players in their own half.

**Roo69** · 28/10/2003, 11:52 AM

I'm not aware of any rule stating that the defending team must have 2 players in their own half.

Acording to Richardson on eircom league weekley last night he seems to think there is. Didnt know this myself being honest, any refs who can clear this up ?

**Ref** · 28/10/2003, 12:56 PM

XI - Offside

Offside Position

It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.

A player is in an offside position if:

he is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent

A player is not in an offside position if:

he is in his own half of the field of play or

he is level with the second last opponent or

he is level with the last two opponents

Offence

A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:

interfering with play or

interfering with an opponent or

gaining an advantage by being in that position

No Offence

There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:

a goal kick or

a throw-in or

a corner kick

Infringements/Sanctions

For any offside offence, the referee awards an indirect free kick to the opposing team to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred.

**joe** · 28/10/2003, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by Ref

A player is in an offside position if:

he is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent

Offence

A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:

gaining an advantage by being in that position

this would cover it i think

**Dodge** · 28/10/2003, 1:11 PM

1. Ball passed forward
2. Well inside Pats half
3. Only one defender between him and goal

Definitely offside, but ref would have blown for full time from resulting free kick. Not a major issue.

**Schumi** · 28/10/2003, 1:26 PM

Why was Adamson sao slow in getting back the two times he went up for the corners? Both times he was strolling back when Longford were breaking upfield.