BNP member list leaked

[Sheridan]

I don't see how belonging to the BNP is any more reprehensible than being a member of Sinn Fein. At least the BNP's brand of violent nationalism is largely aspirational.

[HarpoJoyce]

I don't see how belonging to the BNP is any more reprehensible than being a member of Sinn Fein. At least the BNP's brand of violent nationalism is largely aspirational.

I agree with you. I felt the reason there wasnn't a far right party in this country was because of the policies of Sinn Fein.
Anyway, BNP have prettier colours to chose from too.

[Macy]

but your average Skin head listens to quite a lot of punk and hard core rock

But it was only an element of skinheads that were racist as well - there were as many left wing anti-fascist skinheads, and a lot of skinheads were apolitical. Far too many generalisations, and dare I say clichés, bennocelt....

[Macy]

I agree with you. I felt the reason there wasnn't a far right party in this country was because of the policies of Sinn Fein.

So we don't have a far right party because of the presence of what would be considered (at least until recently) as a far left one?

[bennocelt]

if there are Irish people on that BNP list they need to be put down with a lethal injection. I mean do they know what the BNP stands for? Bunch of Nazi's.

you would be surprised

i remember reading that Nick Griffin often took holidays in Kerry?

And many BNP members appear to have strong Irish links - but from what I can see they seem to think of Ireland as part of the great white Great Britain - just that we haven't come around to that idea yet - a bit like what we think of the Protestants up north - they don't know they are Irish yet - bless em!

was two guys from Westmeath and two Polish trying to set up a far right org last year - got caught in the Wicklow mountains !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny how the Poles are into all this stuff - considering the BNP seem to be pretty tough on them in Britain and considering their history.
Would love to meet those two muppets though - one was from Moate - must be a real hot bed of fascism -

[shantykelly]

sure the poles were nearly as bad as the nazis in their attitudes towards the jews.

[gspain]

I don't see how belonging to the BNP is any more reprehensible than being a member of Sinn Fein. At least the BNP's brand of violent nationalism is largely aspirational.

Not as bad obviously but the BNP are still pretty reprehensible.

[Dodge]

sure the poles were nearly as bad as the nazis in their attitudes towards the jews.

Care to elaborate

[Macy]

Care to elaborate

It was all the punk skinhead poles fault...

[Lionel Ritchie]

Care to elaborate

Few countries had a particularly good attitude to Jews back then. I'm guessing he's implying that mainstream Polish society wasn't entirely unhappy to see the ranks of their Jewish fellow citizens thinned out. That being the case the Poles would not have been at all unique.

It's believed for example that the Nazis in occupied France would periodically give lists of people they wanted rounded up (often Jews and often never seen again) to the French gendarmerie who then frequently exceeded these quotas.

As for the BNP, I dislike them because they pander to the worst instincts in people. I know some really good people who've told me they'd vote for them given a chance and I despair of it. But parties like the BNP lure them in because they peddle easy answers ...someone to blame and someone to kiss it all better.

We don't really have a comparable political institution here in Ireland ...Youth Defence and whatever else Justin and the Nic Mathunas are calling themselves these days would be the closest but these wingnuts tend to espouse a similar back of a cornflakes box Republicanism as Republican Sinn Fein or the IRSP ...this in turn frustates alliances with UK right wingers like the BNP as their support would have more than a smattering of sympathisers for Loyalist paramilitarism.

[shantykelly]

as per lionel. this attitude seems to be still prevalent - most of the foreigners i work with (who are admittedly at the lower end of the financial and education lists) are shocking in their right wing conservatism and anti-semitism.

[shakermaker1982]

you would be surprised

i remember reading that Nick Griffin often took holidays in Kerry?

And many BNP members appear to have strong Irish links - but from what I can see they seem to think of Ireland as part of the great white Great Britain - just that we haven't come around to that idea yet - a bit like what we think of the Protestants up north - they don't know they are Irish yet - bless em!

was two guys from Westmeath and two Polish trying to set up a far right org last year - got caught in the Wicklow mountains !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny how the Poles are into all this stuff - considering the BNP seem to be pretty tough on them in Britain and considering their history.
Would love to meet those two muppets though - one was from Moate - must be a real hot bed of fascism -

I've had one encounter with a BNP Nazi scumbag (I was on a 3 day training course and we all had a few pints each night) and he had the cheek to come out with this outlandish statement to a group of Irish persons who had the misfortune to attend said course - "we used to hate your sort, but at least your the same colour as me so you cannot be all that bad". He couldn't handle his drink and as the night progressed he got worse. He had a major hard on for Jews and them taking over the UK + blamed them for assassinating JFK and Princess Di? we tried to reason with him, I did well to stop myself from chinning the nasty piece of work and he never made it in on that final day.

Anybody remember Sam Hamann (ex Wimbledon chairman) spouting racist ****** at some Cardiff hooligan meet?! Might have been panorma or some other undercover investigation from a journalist.

[gspain]

My brother swears this is true.

Weedy looking 5ft 8 BNP member goes into a pub in west London and wants to hand out leaflets "We're trying to get rid of the wogs, pakis and paddys". A much largers barman comes out and says "I'm from Dublin, what have you got to say about that" "I'm sorrry me mother is from Mayo don't hurt me".

[Sligo Hornet]

Any of the Members better take care where they park their cars!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7741270.stm

[Noelys Guitar]

I can't see the BNP making the type of inroads in Britain the far right are making in Austria/regions of Germany/ and Japan. And in Italy the Fair Right are seen as a legitimate political grouping. When I lived in west London in the 80's I worked with a group of girls of Caribbean descent. As I was travelling around Europe going to away games having a great time the Black girls really feared travelling around mainland Europe.

[pete]

As I was travelling around Europe going to away games having a great time the Black girls really feared travelling around mainland Europe.

Have you stopped travelling? Do they feel safe now?

The problem with vigilante actions is that like incident in Bradford that people are misidentified or caught in the crossfire.

There will always be racists so possibly not a bad thing that the BNP exist as at least can find them all in the one place.

[Noelys Guitar]

Have you stopped travelling? Do they feel safe now?

The problem with vigilante actions is that like incident in Bradford that people are misidentified or caught in the crossfire.

There will always be racists so possibly not a bad thing that the BNP exist as at least can find them all in the one place.

I was travelling. They unfortunately did not travel. For some reason sleeping on sidewalks in Frankfurt did not appeal to them. I agree with your point about the BNP existing. Underground militant/far righter groups much more dangerous.

[BohsPartisan]

I don't see how belonging to the BNP is any more reprehensible than being a member of Sinn Fein. At least the BNP's brand of violent nationalism is largely aspirational.

While I don't agree with SF type nationalism or nationalism of any kind, it at least was (lets be honest, its past tense now in reality, like their left credentials) qualified by progressive anti-imperialism. The BNP type of Nationalism is based on racial supremacy, a type of apartheid and a fascist/corporatist state.

BNP members and supporters have also been involved for years in the Redwatch website, where pictures and personal details of anyone who dared to criticise them along with left wing activists, gay rights activists and anyone else they didn't like were posted with the words "Remember places, traitors' faces, they'll all pay for their crimes." The BNP are not just nationalist, they are Fascist knuckle dragging thugs (despite their attempts at improving their image - its all cosmetic).

[Student Mullet]

So we don't have a far right party because of the presence of what would be considered (at least until recently) as a far left one?

You have to remember that we're not dealing with the cream of the intellectual crop here.

[BohsPartisan]

I don't see how belonging to the BNP is any more reprehensible than being a member of Sinn Fein. At least the BNP's brand of violent nationalism is largely aspirational.

While I don't agree with SF type nationalism or nationalism of any kind, it at least was (lets be honest, its past tense now in reality, like their left credentials) qualified by progressive anti-imperialism. The BNP type of Nationalism is based on racial supremacy, a type of apartheid and a fascist/corporatist state.

BNP members and supporters have also been involved for years in the Redwatch website, where pictures and personal details of anyone who dared to criticise them along with left wing activists, gay rights activists and anyone else they didn't like were posted with the words "Remember places, traitors' faces, they'll all pay for their crimes." The BNP are not just nationalist, they are Fascist knuckle dragging thugs (despite their attempts at improving their image - its all cosmetic).

BNP Hypocrisy in the spotlight