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My thoughts from last night. At €50+ a pop, I really do wonder why people like this turn up.
You get these types at all big sporting events now. Some people suggest that there has been a noticeable increase in their numbers since the move to Croke Park but I'd say they will be present in equal numbers in the new Lansdowne Road, they just won't be as noticeable.
No I think the fact that we have a huge amount of extra tickets means that while some of those extra tickets are going to proper fans who sing and enjoy the action and get behind the team, there is a strong possibility that the types of fans described above will get tickets. I think there will be less of it at LR.
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I agree with Neil here. I feel (and I'm not too happy about it) that going to Croker is for getting to watch the match live and thats it. With Lansdowne (for competitive games) I always felt that you were with like-minded people and it was a social occasion.Originally Posted by NeilMcD
I can't wait to go back.
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I agree that LR was more of a social occasion and the atmosphere more intense, the problem with Croker is in the size of the pitch alongg with the amount of Corp yups that a too smart too bear a green jersey to the game. The void between touchline and front row is too great, also the hill which was left shockingly empty (the FAI can be blamed for this on the extortionate ticket prices) is a sound vacuum. The open end result in the crowd reverb being disproportionate, resulting in Cusack/Davin/Hogan being out of sync which ive experienced every Ireland game at Croker, by the time half the ground "stand up for the boys in green" no one knows whats goin on. The new LR (which looks savage already) should be a far more intimate/intimidating, I cant f%ck@n wait!!
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I dont agree with this, the individuals are what make it. The blogger alluded to the eL games where grounds wouldnt have acoustics anywhere near as good as Croke Park and the decibel level would be constantly higher than home games. It is certainly possible to generate noise in Croke Park.
I wouldn't get my hopes up. Irish people have become too self-concious and I doubt there is any way back. There will be something else to blame for the poor atmosphere once we're there. I hope I'm wrong though.
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The idea that noise somehow escapes from the Hill end is a complete red herring. I've been there on days when the Hill was completely closed and there was still plenty of noise being generated.
The band that the FAI insist on having ruins the crowd. They dont inspire singing they stop it. If they are playing there is no incentive for the fans to chant. If the ground was quiet then the fans would have to take the bull by the horns.
They should make tickets more available to the real fans and even open up Hill 16 to League Of Ireland fans who if put together would create an atmosphere and get behind the side without getting dirty looks from corporate yuppies in the rest of the ground.
In the Davin stand where I was at the game, there was a group of St.Pat's fans and a group of Bray fans near us and everytime they got something going they got strange looks from a minority of people who thought they were at the cinema.
I would love if a group of Limerick fans could do the same but its difficult to get seats together. Don't get me wrong the atmosphere was very good at times last Wednesday but just not enough "real fans"
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There already is an eL section in the Davin. It seems to be full of random friends of eL fans, and there's not that much singing from any of the groups, though Shams do give it a go every now and again. The eL section was definately noisier in Lansdowne. I don't quite know why.
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100% agree. they "play" tunes that are no relevance to the fans. a few well placed bodhran beaters around the stands would be far more effective. could the foot.ie members not organise something? surely theres enough of us to make a difference?
Might try to have a word with them for the "away" match Vs Poland about their play listand see if they could bang out what the fans might sing/chant along with
The problem about foot.ie members is that they are spread out all around the Davin end and we dont know each other so that we could attempt to co-ordinate singing. Maybe we should look for a foot.ie section(particularly when we get back to LR)
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I can't wait to get back to Lansdowne to be honest.
Hate the place for football matches, not sure if its because of the size of the stadium or the people round us who just don't seem that interested in the game.
I too cant wait to get back to Lansdowne, I hate Croker.
"Football is a game you play with your brain".
Sums it up ,ironic really, I couldn't wait to see football in Croker, now I'm counting down the games to get out of there.
Agreed. I waited all my life to see "soccer" at Croke Park and must now reluctantly admit it's been a huge let down. But is that down to the type of fan that goes to Croker? If so, how will the new Lansdowne be different when the seats won't exactly be cheaper there either??I couldn't wait to see football in Croker, now I'm counting down the games to get out of there.
Do you know it's funny I have not heard one guy who loves us playing at Croke Park . Yes can't wait to go back HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The same fans will go to the games in Lansdowne. And the new Lansdowne will be a similarly open, large stadium (won't be the same size, obviously, but it'll be large and have none of the almost homeliness of the old Lansdowne). Don't see much difference to be honest, apart from Lansdowne being easier for me to get to.
Lansdowne stands will be much, much closer to the pitch. The fact that in Croke Park we are at least 30 yards from the pitch markings is what makes the Croke Pk experience a damp squib in my eyes.
Well, that's true I suppose. Though my last few games in Lansdowne were pretty much right on the goalline, which wasn't the best either!
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