QuoteAnd I have to laugh at you bringing up rubbish about the past.Originally Posted by smasher
Bloody move on, jesus have you ever played football in your life
80million gone amiss in Paris.......................the plot thickens!!!!
Last edited by smasher; 05/12/2008 at 1:49 PM.
And I have to laugh at you bringing up rubbish about the past.
Bloody move on, jesus have you ever played football in your life
First hint of things getting tough and hes out the door,he truly has no loyalty and he WILL now struggle to get another decent job.
I've just logged on and my time machine has transported me back to 2002.
I know all the Derby and Grand National winners for the next six years.
Oh and put everything you have on Chelsea winning the Premier League in 2005. Seriously.
And at half-time in the Champions League Final in 2005 put your mortgage on Liverpool.
Now where did I leave the flux capacitor...
"Football is a game you play with your brain".
Roy Keane has again been found out as the self-absorbed, hypocritical bully he is. Demanded standards from others when a player and failed miserably as a manager in this regard. He has no respect for individuals, he is incapable of forming any sort of mutual relationships with players, and certainly was found wanting in judging what an all-round good footballer is with his ridiculous signings. Only Kenwyne Jones can be classed as anyway worthy of the price tag paid. How many of his signings were players that he had links with, directly or indirectly, yet wouldn't stand for his scare tactics in the end?
People who say the players are at fault forget that almost a full dressing room can't be wrong in judging a character. Likewise, all bar one player in 02' couldn't have been wrong in standing by the side of Mick McCarthy. You treat people with respect, you get it back - simple fact of life.
The disdain I have for Roy Keane is unwavering, despite the bullsh!t protestations that he's a flawed character. Flawed? More like another Chimbonda short of a circus in my eyes. His exit from his self-made circus couldn't have come a day sooner for Mr Keane. A bit of a thumping at the hands of the man he played puppet for for over 10 years wouldn't have sat well with the Mayfield mug I suspect. A coward flees at the first smell of trouble, and that is what he is.
Mens sana in corpore sano
I have to say having read some of the digusting rubbish posted here about one of the greatest players this country has ever had is making me sick.
I bet most of you are the same thrash that booed him at Lansdowne road because that hack Cathal Dervan said to and felt like crap when he got man of the match. Vultures you all are.
I've never seen such bile and hatred of a footballer since the english declared war on Maradonna when he scored that goal with his wonderful hand in '86.
I was disappointed with Tony Cascarino on Matt Cooper's show tonight when he tore strips of Roy for something that happened in a Heathrow airport toilet back in the day. I mean grow up the lot of you.
Cas got praise for telling it as it is when that's all Roy did his entire career.
It's about time people started respecting Roy for the service he gave his country, the passionate way he played and the way he steadied the sinking Sunderland ship when the damn place was heading for the blue square league or something.
Esse Quam Videri
Anybody worth their salt would have saved Sunderland that season considering Niall Quinn was at the helm against his will. Didn't want to be there as manager and was only filling a void, hence leaving the players with uncertainty every time they took the field.
As for the service he gave the country...don't get me started
Mens sana in corpore sano
START, I dare ya. Is this about Saipan again? talk about getting old. Too many glorious failures in this country I think, Roy wanted success and got slated for it. It's a shame that people will get slaughtered for principles. And who was it that got Sunderland relegated in the first place? I have nothing against Mick but to jump on the anti-Roy bandwagon like most of you sheep do is sad.Anybody worth their salt would have saved Sunderland that season considering Niall Quinn was at the helm against his will. Didn't want to be there as manager and was only filling a void, hence leaving the players with uncertainty every time they took the field.
As for the service he gave the country...don't get me started
Esse Quam Videri
Where were his principles at Sunderland? A manager earning ludicrous somes for 'working' only two days a week and throwing his dummy out of the pram the rest of the time doesn't have much principles in my opinion. Just answer me this....where does respect come into his vocabulary? He's milked a proud club dry and left them in a precarious position once one piece of sh!t has hit the fan.
As for labelling me a 'sheep' for seeing through a man who is simply incompetent at his job and hypocritical, I say more power to you trying to defend the indefensible.
Mens sana in corpore sano
You see him as incompetent at his job, and I think you are right.
But if that is the case, why, now that Keane has finally come to the same conclusion, and has resigned so that his incompetence doesn't sink the club, why do you vilify him for quitting at the "first piece of s##t hits the fan"? Would you rather he stayed and relegated the club through his lack of competence?
Last edited by osarusan; 06/12/2008 at 12:45 AM.
Why do people think he'll struggle to get a job?
He took a club up from the Championship, and that means a lot in that league when it comes to getting another job down there. He also commands the fanbase of a small club that will jump on whatever club he finds himself at next. He's a young manager who has made mistakes, his main test will be to prove he has learnt from them and move on. Guarantee you he will be asked to apply for a dozen jobs between now and the rest of the season
I agree. And after listening to Per-Magnus Andersson's comments tonight on Radio 5 I have a feeling Keane was right to walk away. This Swedish/American sounds like the 2 morons who "own" Liverpool. He called Keane Unstable and questioned his ability as a player. Very strange interview. I can't see Quinn hanging around working with this guy either.
While Keane's ability as a player is unquestionable it's hardly a leap of faith to suggest he's unstable given his history, there's undoubtedly demons in his head at times.
Oh sweet Jesus.
Keane never did whatever it took to win. Keane did whatever it took to look after number 1. He never gave a f**k about anyone but Roy. I know this is old ground but it's relevant when analysing Roy the man or manager.
Did Keane think about his team mates and winning when he got sent off for trying to end a man's career with a game at 1-1 and with his club chasing the title? Did he give a rat's arse about winning or anyone else when he did the same by sticking his elbow into McAteer's face with another game poised at 1-1?
The man isn't flawed, he's rotten to the core. Stop buying into the myth coz that's all it is. If anyone thinks Saipan was a point of principle then they are deluded.
As for the latest escapade, he was a **** poor manager who had a massive amount to spend and earned limited success on the back of it. However, Roy wasn't interested in learning his craft like everyone else had to and so spat the dummy when the going got tough.
I don't know if he realises he is doing it but he clearly creates confrontation as prelude for excuse to quit.
I agree with you here. Here is a link to Per-Magnus Andersson's interview in the Guardian newspaper. I think he is taking the stance of american sports teams - where the owners are hands on and very much see the players as expensive 'assets' that are indulged and mollycoddled. The coach/manager is secondary and are often disposed of if there is any friction.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...land-roy-keane
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder
What a shock! A manager is often disposed of. Never heard of that happening in the Premiership and elsewhere..
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Players have the upper hand now at top tier clubs - the days of managers ruling with an iron fist have gone. The Clough and (the old) Ferguson style won't get you far today
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder
Did Roy jump before the Sunderland players got the chance to completely humiliate him at Old Trafford.
If a manager looses the dressing room these days the players hold his position in the palm of their hand.
I believe that Lucas Neill marched into the dressing room after a victory for West Ham and declared to Curbishley "we saved your job today"
A self respecting club would have kicked his ass out on the street for that.
The Cobh job anyone?
The ball is round and has many surprises.
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