QuoteDont forget he was actually a winner and we love to knock our winners in IrelandOriginally Posted by shakermaker1982
Agree with other points too
I have heard it all now...Holy God
Dont forget he was actually a winner and we love to knock our winners in Ireland
Agree with other points too
Precicely one thenBest suggestion all day. Not sure they have €80million to spend though, thank God, but it will still be great if he got them in debt.
Not true. I referred to the Irish players there.
The Keane debate will always go back to the Saipan thing. I won't deny for a minute I hoped he'd fail at Sunderland. I used to travel around the world supporting Ireland with a friend of mine (we knew each other since we were about 10). He was in the Keane camp and refused to go to any more Irish games. I haven't seen him since the Iran game at Lansdowne. It runs that deep in the Irish psyche and nearly all the debate here about his managerial expertise is based on which camp the person was in back in 2002. The fact that he was supported by Dunphy makes it twice as bad. So I just couldn't get in to "he's a good manager/ worse/better manager than Mick" thing. It's just the same old stuff in another guise and do we really want to go there?
Mind you if he went to Wednesday: "Keano, there's only one Keano..."
I hope he gets back in management soon though I wouldn't fancy being a fan of that club when things are going bad
Takes one of the eircom leauge's top players and ends him off too bloody Dundee then shags off
I've always disliked him since Saipan despite the fact he had some valid gripes I felt he handled it incredibly badly. I've always felt that he acts irrationally when things aren't going his way and that he wouldn't have behaved as he did in Saipan had Man U actually won anything in 01/02. The fact that they hadn't put him into one of his 'dark places' and Saipan pushed him over the edge. I see similarities today, his head was wrecked so he walked away without knuckling down and trying to overcome the difficulties.
As regards your points, Keane was immense in the 02 qualifiers but without input from the likes of McAteer, Robbie Keane, Given and even Ian Harte (joint top scorer) we wouldn't have qualified. The way history has been re-written to make it solely Keane's achievement is nauseating.
I may dislike Man U but loved Denis Irwin, Paul McGrath, Kevin Moran, even Stapleton (not to mention the legend that was Ashley Grimes) when they played for Ireland, club feelings shouldn't come into it. Some people disliked Keane because of the thuggish manner he behaved on the pitch on occasion. Deliberately injuring a player because he'd injured himself trying to kick him previously?? Shameful.
To be honesty the whole Sund-Ireland thing was embarrassing and should have been anathema to any football fan, by all means take a defree of an interest but a club (or country) should always be bigger then one man.
No one takes Dunphy seriously, entertaining as he is.
'Ireland by birth, Cork by the grace of God.' Never got that myself, I'm Irish first and a Dub second.
If you're judging a managers record then their transfer dealings have to be considered, McCarthy got slated for his record and a huge number of Keane's fans revelled in the fact that his Sunderland team struggled. The fact that McCarthy spent about £4m in 3 years and recouped about £15.5m and Keane spenty about £80m and recouped around £8m can't be ignored. Any judgement I've made on KEane's managerial ability has been done solely on his record without being clouded by 2002. His transfer dealing have been abysmal without a doubt.
Not surprised he's gone, tbh.
He was wasting money. Seriously, how many players did he sign and then leave out in the cold?
I don't think he really knew his best team, big problem for any manager. Also, he never seemed to be able to motivate his players.
I genuinely feel sorry for real Sunderland fans though. They probably had a lot of high hopes when Quinn took over. They went up and stayed up but now they are out 80m and have a lot of average players in their side. Then the going gets tough and they're stuck with a team that's really struggling and it doesn't seem like they can turn it around.
I don't think he'll be without a job for long. There's something about him that convinces people he'll be a good manager.
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Depends on your point of view. Im Corkonian first, Irish second.
Anyway, he wasted money, paid over the odds for poor players and was always going to pay the price eventually
You can't spell failure without FAI
Couldn't be happier. First time I've ever been delighted to see someone fail and it feels wonderful to see a man, whose blind supporters think is a one- man-defeat-repellent, exposed as the weak minded, throw my toys out of the pram bully that he always was.
The man was a wonderful player, an intelligent man and entertaining to listen to. For all that, he's a c**t. For example:
A cowardly kick out at Haaland because he was having a rubbish game and injured himself in the process.
Tried to end Haaland's career because Haaland justifiably thought Keane was trying it on in that Leeds game. Got sent off with a game poised at 1-1 and incurred a ban at the same time. Hardly the actions of a man who puts winning first.
Elbowed McAteer with a game poised at 1-1 for personal revenge over comments about his book.
Walked out on his country.
Spat the dummy at United when he was no longer up to it.
Walked out on Sunderland when he was exposed as the poor manager he is.
Keane is scum. Hopefully he will disappear for good. Either way, I'm having a few drinks in celebration tonight, I've waited for this for a few years now.
Given $70m to spend, I think quite a few could have done better......but with the players and bank balance Keane has left behind you're probably right.
"Can I have a Kit-Kat, chunky?"
"you mean a big one"
"No a normal kit-kat you fat bitch"
Gk- Gordon
RB- Chimbonda
LB- Mc Cartney
CB- A Ferdinand
CB- Collins/ Nosworthy
LM- A Reid
RM- Malbranque
CM- Whitehead
CM- Richardson
CF- Cisse
CF- Jones
Thats not a bad team the players were there for mid to top half of the table. Obviously something is wrong in the dressing room. Keane could have rode out the storm but choose to ride off into the sunset. Shame on you mister Keane cant believe he walked away. When the tough gets going Keane gets gone...
"Joe Jordan is off to watch Young Boys tomorrow" Ian Darke
Shows poor character tbf, stupid too, walking out now will probably hurt his job prospects just as much as getting relegated would have, he should have stayed untill the end of the season and if they survived he could quit then and save face, as it is now I doubt another decent team is going to give him a chance and I don't see Keane having the patience to work his way up through the lower leagues. Whats left for Keane now, Punditry?
I hope he's back as soon as possible. Gives hours of entertainment when he's in the spotlight, not least provided by the very witty Mario Rosenstock. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, tune in to the Dempsey show weekday mornings around 8.10. Brilliant!!!
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Yawn!!! Haven't heard any of this before.
Esse Quam Videri
Couldn't be happier. First time I've ever been delighted to see someone fail and it feels wonderful to see a man, whose blind supporters think is a one- man-defeat-repellent, exposed as the weak minded, throw my toys out of the pram bully that he always was.
The man was a wonderful player, an intelligent man and entertaining to listen to. For all that, he's a c**t. For example:
A cowardly kick out at Haaland because he was having a rubbish game and injured himself in the process.
Tried to end Haaland's career because Haaland justifiably thought Keane was trying it on in that Leeds game. Got sent off with a game poised at 1-1 and incurred a ban at the same time. Hardly the actions of a man who puts winning first.
Elbowed McAteer with a game poised at 1-1 for personal revenge over comments about his book.
Walked out on his country.
Spat the dummy at United when he was no longer up to it.
Walked out on Sunderland when he was exposed as the poor manager he is.
Keane is scum. Hopefully he will disappear for good. Either way, I'm having a few drinks in celebration tonight, I've waited for this for a few years now.
Id hate to go through my life as bitter as that
Its really not that complicated!!!
Anyone see some gobsh!te from Drumaville on TV3 going on about how 'the lads were devastated' and how it had been such 'a proud day' when an Irish consortium could buy 'a premier league club in England' - I'm so not a republican, I'm nearly a unionist, but that level of cultural cringe makes me sick; proud because you can buy a 'real' football club in another country, because if it was in ireland it'd only be a copy, (like)
A patriot is someone who knows how to hate his country properly.
Thank your lucky stars you're not Roy Keane so......
eh... didnt he tear his cruciate in that tackle?
eh... didnt he tear his cruciate in that tackle?
Go and YouTube the tackle. He kicked Haaland from behind, with the ball nowhere in sight, Haaland gets up and Keane is staying down for a tackle that he would and should have been booked for. His natural reaction was that Keane was faking. What Haaland did was not unreasonable. If Keane was really that sore over it, he should have had it out man to man with him but instead he attacked him like a coward in the middle of a game five years later and tried to end his career.
I'm not a bitter person. Just cannot stand Roy Keane and his legion of blind followers.
I'd hate to go through life so bitter than I'd aim to deliberately injure a man and try to end his career. Takes all sorts though.
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