We're complete pish as I have been saying even before the season. Murph hasn't got a clue. The fans need to organise
a red card protest to show the board and the team that we
won't be mugs and pour our money down the drain. So what's needed is as follows.
1) Murphy needs to be let known the strength of feeling against him and be red carded.
2) The board need to take a good look in the mirror. There is a huge fan base for Cork Soccer which is untapped. What are they doing about this? If not much then they too need to go.
3)The club is 17 years old but has not progressed. It doesn't own
it's own ground (or training facilities if I'm right?). The board need to address this or go.
4) Facilities need to improve. Look at Longford's Flancare and
show me why Cork haven't , nor look likely to, build a similar
stadium. No Excuses!
5) Finally get the right players on the pitch. This is the least priority only because we're such a disaster off the pitch!
Totally right brother, the potential to develope the club , the only semi pro live football outlet for circa 250.000 people, is vast and to a person with average business acumen would appear to be a great opportunity for making money. Yet the club in it's present state does nothing to attract in perspective fans of which there are hordes. Does nothing to promote......it's all been said before........city depresses me, thats sad.
Here, here...
Some good points raised there. Better off in a different thread, maybe, as the emphasis has shifted from fans to board?
Gerry
IMPORTANT QUESTIONS
Gerry is right, this should be on the "Fans" thread.
The fans must first be more organised. Does any body even know the techicalities of 'sacking the board'. I certainly don't.
Who has the authority to sack the board?
Do they have unlimited control of the club as if it were any other private company, i.e. Do the board own the club and we as fans have absolutly no say in its running?
Can the board only be 'sacked' if some other people buy out their financial interests in our club?
Are the board officially obliged to listen to the concerns of the C.C.F.C. supporters club?
Are these kind of questions raised at Supporters' Club meetings or are they just a boozing session?
This is what I mean about the fans being organised!!!!
P.S. Will a clear message come from a red card protest.
I can't win can I?Originally posted by Snatch
Gerry is right, this should be on the "Fans" thread.
Don't take this the wrong way but if you were ever at a meeting you'ld know the answer to that one.Are these kind of questions raised at Supporters' Club meetings or are they just a boozing session?
Unforetunitly I've been out of Cork for a couple of years.
Thanks Joe for that most informative answer.
sorry, but it just seems to me that whenever people have a grevience out comes the line 'what are the supporters club doing about it?', usually from people who have never made an effort to get involved with the sc (for whatever reason).
I'm not giving out about the supporters' club, I was just wondering about their role in affairs of the club. Maybe more people would join if they knew that the S.C. had a genuine imput in the running of the club.
What does happen at S.C. meetings?
There'll be a few members at the pats match this evening, including the secretary, so if you're there seek them out. Otherwise I'll post more later when I get a chance.Originally posted by Snatch
I'm not giving out about the supporters' club, I was just wondering about their role in affairs of the club. Maybe more people would join if they knew that the S.C. had a genuine imput in the running of the club.
What does happen at S.C. meetings?
Shock, horror, exposé:Originally posted by joe
There'll be a few members at the pats match this evening, including the secretary, so if you're there seek them out. Otherwise I'll post more later when I get a chance.
SC member fails to answer direct question about the SC!
Programme article there, I'd say!
I can see it now...
Gerry
Getting rid of this board would be as easy as falling off a log. The only worry is that u'd get done for assisting a suicide. The club
is dying on its feet.
I don't blame the supporters because love is blind and a hardcore
will come, come what may. The fans love the club but we must
realise there comes a time when u know ur being taken for a mug.
Running a monopoly is a cash cow and that is effectively what Cork City FC is. The board have sold Carey and Delaney for
large sums without any return in investment.
The facilities! Would u go to see a Hollywood Blockbuster at the cinema and when u get there sit on a plastic seat if ur lucky
with a hole in the roof and rain pouring in?
We're a laughing stock now. Who ever heard of a board meeting
at half-time to sack a manager? Talk about the old cliche about
not coming out for the second half.
But it really is time for the cork footballing family to rally. Organise
a red card protest to let the board and the team know our feelings. Otherwise we really are heading for Div 1 at a million miles an hour and I bet not many of the junket loving board
will be around. Murphy and the Board Red carded NOW!!!
Since when did we sell Alan Carey?
Thats great Sack the Board......no problem, that will do alot. Think about what you are saying, you want to sack a new board because results on the pitch have not been great at the start of the season. I personally think the board have show alot of interest in the club so far this year, making a decent few preseason signings and also investing in the ground ( if one is to read the program you will find that City are actually inveswting i the ground).
The real problem lies with the fickle Cork Fans, the club should not have to market to those "life long" fans who packed the ground 3/4 years ago. Therein lies our problem
Oh no not them again
rebel we've been ( the whole league) selling people for pittance since the dawn of time , look at norway and countries like such, delaney goes from city to the leicester first team and how much did we get? , any f**king norwegian or finn finds his way to england and they get a far better return...if we are going to sell people on continuously we must at least attempt to get something in return that we can use to develope the club structure, I'm all for fellas being given a chance to go accross water but what about add in clauses for appearances and sell on's, we've got to be meaner and have more respect for the work that produces these players."the board have sold carey and delaney for large sums"
I was referring to Bryan Carey not Alan Carey- showing my age I guess. The Norwegian clubs should in fact be our models- that is
something IMO that the EL clubs have got right Look at Rosenberg, they're in the CL every year. Yes, I do say sack the board because they are not taking us forward, more like backward. We need a board that will take on the MSA and do something finally with the cross. I wouldn't even call them amateurs as most amateur clubs seem to have better facilities
than we do.
The fanzine is one outlet to show the board what we think. The other would be a protest but do the fans actually have any real power to sack the board. Weren't the fans trying to get rid of Sugar from Spurs for years to no avail. Something needs to be said and done but what could we actually do?
Niamh there is loads that can be done, it's just a question of organisation. We're crying for leadership on the pitch and at board level to stop our drift. Any protest should be reasonable
but should reflect the depth of anger of the supporters. I'm not sure if the chairman ever goes to the meetings of the supporters club but he should be 'summoned' to the next meeting to give
staisfactory explanations of where the club are going and what time frame he envisages. He should be then accountable for his
plans.
Another option is for the chairman to address the supporters concerns in the programme where in print he can affirm the direction we are heading in and any time scale. The supporters
club can be given equal prominence in the programme and 'progress' can be reviewed in say 6 months.
If the board are unwilling to acquiesce to these reasonable demands, then the fans could do Red Card protests where everyone holds up Red Cards before, at half-time and full-time
to show their feeelings which has the benefit of not affecting the team or support. Supporters could wear their City shirts inside
out too to make it a fun protest with a serious side and publicise
why we're doing it. What does anyone else think?
Gunther[COLOR=red]Red Card NOW!![/COLOR]
Getting rid of this board would be as easy as falling off a log.
How do you "sack" the people who own the club exactly? Do they sack themselves and immediately rehire themselves perhaps? Or maybe they hire someone to sack them? I'm confused.
adam
It's all rather simple Adam. It's just a matter of creating conditions
or invoking a situation where the 'owners'- I myself consider them caretakers or trustees- either have to bow to the will of us consumers or patrons, or fly in the face of what is often common-sense and ignore the life-blood of the clubs- we the fans. Given the power- hungry, often super-egotistical nature of these board members, this is never a straightforward matter of course. But unless they've got very deep pockets, they would be very unwise
to ignore the paying customer. Similarly the board is not creating the conditions for the customers to come to the X due to- IMO- its
'shamateurism'.
He who pays the piper calls the tune as you know and rite now all I'm hearing is some busted up lyrics from the X.
I can understand your idealistic wishes rebel yell, and I sypathise with them, but even with your conditions, it's not as simple as that. In fact it's not simple it all, and I would go so far as to say it's next to impossible. IMHO, no matter how bad it gets - and that includes relegation - the board will never "give up" their hobbyhorse, and the fans will never create enough noise to oust them.
I mean, think about it - how many times have there been calls for the heads of the board, and calls for supporters not to go to matches? What has it achieved? And I mean no offense, but "red cards" and "shirts worn inside out"? Don't make me laugh. If you "tabled that motion" at one of the Foot.ie "management meetings" you'd be laughed from the room. Do you honestly think the board members would honestly give a flying eff at the moon if you hold up a red card at a match? They probably wouldn't even see you, and if they did, do you know what they'd do? They'd laugh at you too.
There's only two ways to make City successful, a buyout or a bankruptcy, and the only viable option of those two is the latter. The club needs to go bust and be bought out by someone with vision. Until that happens, nothing is going to change. I'd bet the farm on it. I mean, look at them now for gods sake, they're in reverse!!! They're back to organising everything themselves, which is never successful in an organisation of that size.
You want to oust the board of Cork City FC? Don't go in the gate. Stand outside with a placard and hand out leaflets encouraging others not to go in. Get your friends and those people you convince to do the same.
Next Week: How to make Cork City succeed as a soccer club.
adam
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