derry & Cliftonville

**BannsideBoy** · 07/03/2004, 5:16 PM

I think he was refering to Glenavon replacing lisburn in that league, which is unfair, although glenavon are a 'bigger' club, their team is inferior to distillery's

**sylvo** · 07/03/2004, 7:02 PM

Well thank f

k we're talking about football, I'm all for an all Ireland cup competition, I think it's in the best intrest's of both league's.

**lopez** · 07/03/2004, 7:17 PM

Originally posted by BannsideBoy
I think he was refering to Glenavon replacing lisburn in that league, which is unfair, although glenavon are a 'bigger' club, their team is inferior to distillery's

As per U, DG's right. Still nice to know he's back talking to me. Might have to wait a few days before I return the compliment.

Yes I did mistake Glenavon playing in Lisburn while I should know full well they play in Lurgan (along with a certain Celtic). Just never thought Lisburn had a side in the Irish League, let alone a decent one, so immediately got them mixed up, which shows how much I follow the IL.

Originally posted by sylvo
Well thank f k we're talking about football, I'm all for an all Ireland cup competition, I think it's in the best intrest's of both league's.

That's because Mrs. Gardner (aka Davros) is in a Glasgee pub celebrating at the moment.

**BannsideBoy** · 07/03/2004, 7:30 PM

Lisburn are lisburn distillery fc, the team formerly known as distillery but put lisburn infront of their name to get people from the town to associate with the club............my mistake.

**lopez** · 07/03/2004, 7:41 PM

Originally posted by BannsideBoy
Lisburn are lisburn distillery fc, the team formerly known as distillery but put lisburn infront of their name to get people from the town to associate with the club............my mistake.

Ah now I see. Last time I looked, Distillery were playing (or rather not playing) in Belfast. Grosvenor Park was it? FFS when was the last time I looked at your league properly?

**BannsideBoy** · 07/03/2004, 8:06 PM

seems everyone is doing it

http://irishleagueforums.net/forums/...&threadid=1679

**lopez** · 07/03/2004, 9:34 PM

Originally posted by davros
He should be so lucky!
Only the MB of the GA variety would spare him a look.......& alas missed yesterday's OF game as managing my Sun.footy side......I'll spare you the latest theory why the H*ns are obsessed by 1690.....

Thought I'd gone over the top with that statement. I meant it as you are always bickering at each other, like an old couple, rather than a Research Girl style accusation about suits and toilet seats. Got the joke about 1690 from McMadman: Funny, but not as funny as the Leicester player joke he sent me.

**Duncan Gardner** · 08/03/2004, 9:04 AM

Call me anytime if you want to talk, boys.

Here's the deal. You stop the abuse to me personally and I'll leave you alone.

**Paddy Ramone** · 08/03/2004, 9:54 AM

Isn't Duncan a Crusaders fan? By the way Duncan, do you know a fella called Henry Cluney from your neck of the woods. He's also a fan of the Hatchetmen.

For those that don't know, he was a guitarist with an infamous punk band called Stiff Little Fingers who were big back in the stone age. I've just been talking to him on the net. He seems to be a fairly decent bloke.

**Duncan Gardner** · 08/03/2004, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
Isn't Duncan a Crusaders fan? By the way Duncan, do you know a fella called Henry Cluney from your neck of the woods. He's also a fan of the Hatchetmen.

For those that don't know, he was a guitarist with an infamous punk band called Stiff Little Fingers who were big back in the stone age. I've just been talking to him on the net. He seems to be a fairly decent bloke.

Aye, sound guy. Lives in Minneapolis I think? I've spoken to him a few times. Also, tell him big Dee the sound engineer at the Empire sends regards

**liam88** · 08/03/2004, 8:26 PM

Probably

Sitck Cobh in the united league would ya?

Would Linfield be welcome in Cork city?
Not tryin' to incite any bigotry just wondering if the two would get on ok?
Have they met before?

**Paddy Ramone** · 09/03/2004, 3:01 PM

I think an all-Ireland league would be wonderful. With big clubs like Shels, Bohs, Shamrock Rovers, Cork City, Linfield and Glentoran. There'd be some mouth watering fixtures there. It would be the best thing to happen to football on the island.

**lopez** · 09/03/2004, 4:07 PM

Originally posted by liam88
Probably
Sitck Cobh in the united league would ya?
Would Linfield be welcome in Cork city?
Not tryin' to incite any bigotry just wondering if the two would get on ok?
Have they met before?

Didn't you see Tommy T's post about some threads on Linfield fans complaining about the sectarian singing of Coleraine supporters. They're now called Linfield PC.

**the scout** · 09/03/2004, 6:04 PM

Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
I think an all-Ireland league would be wonderful. With big clubs like Shels, Bohs, Shamrock Rovers, Cork City, Linfield and Glentoran. There'd be some mouth watering fixtures there. It would be the best thing to happen to football on the island.

if the security issues could be sorted it would be a huge shot in the arm for irish football(def no pun intended).there would be huge interest in it

**ghosty** · 09/03/2004, 7:26 PM

Originally posted by BannsideBoy
1.Bohemians
2.Cork City
3.Glentoran
4.Linfield
5.Portadown
6.Derry City
7.St Pats
8.Shelbourne
9.Shamrock rovers
10.Drogeda
11.Coleraine
12.Longford
13.Waterford
14.Ballymena Utd
15.Dundalk
16.Lisburn

Give or take a few, this would be a great league, good supports for most teams.

No offence, but of those current IL teams bar the Glens, Portadown and Linfield, how many have won the League in the last 10 years.

In fact i can say that in the last 10 years Cliftonville have won 5 senior trophies compared to Ballymenas 0 and Lisburns 0 and coleraines 1.

Cliftonville would have grounds to be there certainly before Lisburn and Ballymena.

**BannsideBoy** · 09/03/2004, 9:22 PM

Originally posted by ghosty
No offence, but of those current IL teams bar the Glens, Portadown and Linfield, how many have won the League in the last 10 years.

In fact i can say that in the last 10 years Cliftonville have won 5 senior trophies compared to Ballymenas 0 and Lisburns 0 and coleraines 1.

Cliftonville would have grounds to be there certainly before Lisburn and Ballymena.

On current form they are better, and deserve their place, cliftonville would have to be promoted like everyone else, you have no god given right to be in the top division.

**lopez** · 09/03/2004, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by BannsideBoy
On current form they are better, and deserve their place, cliftonville would have to be promoted like everyone else, you have no god given right to be in the top division.

...unless Murdoch get's his way. Remember SuperLeague?

Ghosty, the heart says yes, but if we are to have a 'non-sectarian' Irish League (my god there's another concession!) I agree with BSBoy, it's all got to be done on merit. This was after all one of the things that originally split the Irish football.

**TommyT** · 09/03/2004, 10:39 PM

HTF did Dundalk get in there.

**Duncan Gardner** · 10/03/2004, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by ghosty
No offence...in fact i can say that in the last 10 years Cliftonville have won 5 senior trophies compared to Ballymenas 0 and Lisburns 0 and coleraines 1.

Cliftonville would have grounds to be there certainly before Lisburn and Ballymena.

As would Crusaders, who have won twice as many Irish League titles in the last decade as Cliftonville.

Not that past glories should count for anything, of course

**ghosty** · 11/03/2004, 9:15 AM

Originally posted by Duncan Gardner
As would Crusaders, who have won twice as many Irish League titles in the last decade as Cliftonville.

Not that past glories should count for anything, of course

Yep Duncan i agree, HTF did i forget about that shower from the Shore Rd.

Bannside Boy, on current form? So you take this seasons current form to decide if they make it or not? What about the seasons Ballymena, Coleraine and Distillery spent in the 1st Division or areyou glossing over that bit?

Lopez, what do you mean about non sectarian? If you want non sectarian then Linfield shouldn't be there.